New Ashes thread

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JPF BATTING AT 3, COME ON MATE DO ITTTTT!!! ;D

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The last time Watson has taken more than 1 wicket in an innings was in November 2011.

If you still consider Watson an AR you're kidding yourself. Wake up mate, Watson is a piece of shower now.

Since his first test in 2012 Watson has taken 8 wickets for 452 runs. An average of 56.5 and a strike rate of 152...

It takes him 25.46 overs to get a wicket.

If Watson was the only wicket taker with the bowlers at the other end not getting any wickets it'd take us 509.25 overs to bowl a side out.

Watson an all rounder? No.

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If Watson was the only wicket taker with the bowlers at the other end not getting any wickets it'd take us 509.25 overs to bowl a side out.

This was by far my favourite part hahah

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That's providing he can bowl 250+ overs straight

[me]

The last time Watson has taken more than 1 wicket in an innings was in November 2011.

If you still consider Watson an AR you're kidding yourself. Wake up mate, Watson is a piece of shower now.

Since his first test in 2012 Watson has taken 8 wickets for 452 runs. An average of 56.5 and a strike rate of 152...

It takes him 25.46 overs to get a wicket.

If Watson was the only wicket taker with the bowlers at the other end not getting any wickets it'd take us 509.25 overs to bowl a side out.

Watson an all rounder? No.

Props for crunching the numbers but they only tell half the story. Watson has been used very sparingly in recent times due to injury but often provides crucial wickets or builds up pressure which creates wickets at the other end. In this series he has been a bit of a go to man for Clarke for control, and with a few favorable umpire decisions or correct reviews such as the pietersen non lbw those stats would look better.

I'm not saying he's a great all rounder by any measure, and he has been a chronic underachiever, but he does contribute meaningfully with the ball and would take him over Faulkner every time as Australia's "all rounder". *provided hes fit of course haha

[Bill Manspeaker]

holy shower, did ya's see that catch by the English wicketkeeper in the women's match?   :o

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What you say there is gets a wicket when he bowls and breaks partnerships...

He has a strike rate of 150 balls mate...

He gets a wicket every 150 deliveries since start of 2012. Clearly he isn't that anymore. He rarely ever takes a wicket.

Faulkner has taken half the wickets in 1 innings as Watson has in nearly 2 years.

He has bowled 1,216 for 8 wickets

Faulkner 118 for 4 wickets

[Bill Manspeaker]

hahaha this dude in the crowd singing. that's gold. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAA

[Bill Manspeaker]

just punch the flower out of him Warney

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How do the commentators not understand risking a loss to win?

Is England that flowered in their cricket ways or are Nasser and co. just flowering stupid as sheep?

Seriously wtf? They've been speechless for 90 seconds now because Warnie outsmarted them.

[Bill Manspeaker]

time to declare Clarkey.

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How do the commentators not understand risking a loss to win?

Is England that flowered in their cricket ways or are Nasser and co. just flowering stupid as sheep?

Seriously wtf? They've been speechless for 90 seconds now because Warnie outsmarted them.

He wasn't making any sense and just kept blurting out "lose to win" really loudy and you can imagine Atherton just sitting there showerting himself laughing

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It made absolute perfect sense.

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What you say there is gets a wicket when he bowls and breaks partnerships...

He has a strike rate of 150 balls mate...

He gets a wicket every 150 deliveries since start of 2012. Clearly he isn't that anymore. He rarely ever takes a wicket.

Faulkner has taken half the wickets in 1 innings as Watson has in nearly 2 years.

He has bowled 1,216 for 8 wickets

Faulkner 118 for 4 wickets

Faulkners 4 are as cheap as broads 4 at the moment ... Can't compare them at all to watsons statistics that you were mentioning. As I've said watsons holding/control mode often means he'll go wicket less but when he's bowled more aggressively or with a newer ball he definitely can take wickets such as Graeme smith at Perth last year and cook early at lords I think. Anyway I'm not sure of his overall career test bowling stats CBf checking but I'm sure if he was bowled more regularly and in a more wicket attacking fashion those statistics would even out.

As I've said he's not a great all rounder so I wouldn't expect his stats to be fantastic but I'd still take him over Faulkner at this point in time

Anyway we can just agree to disagree if you wish, as it's a fairly trivial matter

[me]

Ok 10 wickets this session let's go lol ... No doubt Clarke will declare over tea ... Need a miracle spell ... England will probably have a go, lose 1 wicket then block it out