Simple Poll

[GoLions]

I'd get Jack and Minson. Both been super consistent, can't go wrong  :)

[roo boys!]

I'd get Jack and Minson. Both been super consistent, can't go wrong  :)

That's what the poll says too but wato has just about convinced me to grab Griffen instead...is the consistency the only thing doing it for you GL?

I guess that's a good point it seems to be a lot safer of an option, as if I get Griffen and Pav/Cyril there's a bit of risk surrounding that forward whereas Minson looks to be very safe.

If Ablett is out this week I'll be forced to go with Jack, or possibly get Griffen in a week early but that would make it virtually impossible to afford Pav.

[_wato]

I'd get Jack and Minson. Both been super consistent, can't go wrong  :)

That's what the poll says too but wato has just about convinced me to grab Griffen instead...is the consistency the only thing doing it for you GL?

I guess that's a good point it seems to be a lot safer of an option, as if I get Griffen and Pav/Cyril there's a bit of risk surrounding that forward whereas Minson looks to be very safe.

If Ablett is out this week I'll be forced to go with Jack, or possibly get Griffen in a week early but that would make it virtually impossible to afford Pav.

They have been super consistent, don't get him wrong. I just think Griff can go huge in the last few weeks whereas Jack will be very consistent, bit like Priddis, but with a larger ceiling. Minson would be a good pick but you can't afford him and Griff.. Pav has a soft draw, and has good records of kicking goals, for 110+ in SC which is very manageable as he's playing GWS, Melbourne and St Kilda.

I would rather the POD going into the finals, rather than lots of good teams having both Jack and Minson and you then going toe for toe. My honest opinion, go whichever way though mate. Obviously with Gaz, if he's out then Jack and Minson, if not I'd still try and go, Griff and Pav. Winning the glory in your leagues is about taking risks, and they are both risks, but ones that should pay off.

[GoLions]

I'd get Jack and Minson. Both been super consistent, can't go wrong  :)

That's what the poll says too but wato has just about convinced me to grab Griffen instead...is the consistency the only thing doing it for you GL?

I guess that's a good point it seems to be a lot safer of an option, as if I get Griffen and Pav/Cyril there's a bit of risk surrounding that forward whereas Minson looks to be very safe.

If Ablett is out this week I'll be forced to go with Jack, or possibly get Griffen in a week early but that would make it virtually impossible to afford Pav.

They have been super consistent, don't get him wrong. I just think Griff can go huge in the last few weeks whereas Jack will be very consistent, bit like Priddis, but with a larger ceiling. Minson would be a good pick but you can't afford him and Griff.. Pav has a soft draw, and has good records of kicking goals, for 110+ in SC which is very manageable as he's playing GWS, Melbourne and St Kilda.

I would rather the POD going into the finals, rather than lots of good teams having both Jack and Minson and you then going toe for toe. My honest opinion, go whichever way though mate. Obviously with Gaz, if he's out then Jack and Minson, if not I'd still try and go, Griff and Pav. Winning the glory in your leagues is about taking risks, and they are both risks, but ones that should pay off.

At this point in time, there's no way I would want to be bringing in Pavlich or Cyril. Need a few weeks to prove themselves. Hence why I would definitely want to bring in Minson. But, like you said, can't get Minson AND Griffen, and Jack is still a really good option, and that is why I would get Jack and Minson.

[_wato]

I'd get Jack and Minson. Both been super consistent, can't go wrong  :)

That's what the poll says too but wato has just about convinced me to grab Griffen instead...is the consistency the only thing doing it for you GL?

I guess that's a good point it seems to be a lot safer of an option, as if I get Griffen and Pav/Cyril there's a bit of risk surrounding that forward whereas Minson looks to be very safe.

If Ablett is out this week I'll be forced to go with Jack, or possibly get Griffen in a week early but that would make it virtually impossible to afford Pav.

They have been super consistent, don't get him wrong. I just think Griff can go huge in the last few weeks whereas Jack will be very consistent, bit like Priddis, but with a larger ceiling. Minson would be a good pick but you can't afford him and Griff.. Pav has a soft draw, and has good records of kicking goals, for 110+ in SC which is very manageable as he's playing GWS, Melbourne and St Kilda.

I would rather the POD going into the finals, rather than lots of good teams having both Jack and Minson and you then going toe for toe. My honest opinion, go whichever way though mate. Obviously with Gaz, if he's out then Jack and Minson, if not I'd still try and go, Griff and Pav. Winning the glory in your leagues is about taking risks, and they are both risks, but ones that should pay off.

At this point in time, there's no way I would want to be bringing in Pavlich or Cyril. Need a few weeks to prove themselves. Hence why I would definitely want to bring in Minson. But, like you said, can't get Minson AND Griffen, and Jack is still a really good option, and that is why I would get Jack and Minson.

He's still got two or three weeks to consider it mate, as I just said? So if he doesn't like their output he can get in someone else?
They have plenty of time to prove themselves, not just with their scores, but how they're moving, if they can run out games, and what not.
Jack (110) + Minson (115) over finals V Griff (130) + Pav (110) on their draws. Who would you go now? Griff and Pav.

[roo boys!]

Great discussion here boys, both have been massive help throughout this thread, muliple cheers issued all round if that's what floats your boat.

At the moment I'm inclined to agree with Wato that Pav could go pretty close to what Minson is doing, but like you've both said I will have a few weeks to look at Pav/Cyril/Minson and assess from there. If Minson does have a couple of quiet ones he MAY fall into my pricerange but very very unlikely IMO.

Will watch the following weeks with a lot of interest! Poll still suggests Jack + Minson the way to go. Keep the votes/advice coming all, much appreciated! :)

[GoLions]

I'd get Jack and Minson. Both been super consistent, can't go wrong  :)

That's what the poll says too but wato has just about convinced me to grab Griffen instead...is the consistency the only thing doing it for you GL?

I guess that's a good point it seems to be a lot safer of an option, as if I get Griffen and Pav/Cyril there's a bit of risk surrounding that forward whereas Minson looks to be very safe.

If Ablett is out this week I'll be forced to go with Jack, or possibly get Griffen in a week early but that would make it virtually impossible to afford Pav.

They have been super consistent, don't get him wrong. I just think Griff can go huge in the last few weeks whereas Jack will be very consistent, bit like Priddis, but with a larger ceiling. Minson would be a good pick but you can't afford him and Griff.. Pav has a soft draw, and has good records of kicking goals, for 110+ in SC which is very manageable as he's playing GWS, Melbourne and St Kilda.

I would rather the POD going into the finals, rather than lots of good teams having both Jack and Minson and you then going toe for toe. My honest opinion, go whichever way though mate. Obviously with Gaz, if he's out then Jack and Minson, if not I'd still try and go, Griff and Pav. Winning the glory in your leagues is about taking risks, and they are both risks, but ones that should pay off.

At this point in time, there's no way I would want to be bringing in Pavlich or Cyril. Need a few weeks to prove themselves. Hence why I would definitely want to bring in Minson. But, like you said, can't get Minson AND Griffen, and Jack is still a really good option, and that is why I would get Jack and Minson.

He's still got two or three weeks to consider it mate, as I just said? So if he doesn't like their output he can get in someone else?
They have plenty of time to prove themselves, not just with their scores, but how they're moving, if they can run out games, and what not.
Jack (110) + Minson (115) over finals V Griff (130) + Pav (110) on their draws. Who would you go now? Griff and Pav.

Ah, I missed that tiny bit in the thread, thought that the 2-3 weeks was only for trading out Nicholls, and he was getting rid of Watson straight away. At their best, I would agree that Pav and Griffen is definitely the way to go. Now that I realise he's waiting a few weeks for both trades, then I guess we can just wait and see. I'll also be interested at how Pav goes, could be a luxury trade during finals if Buddy or Zorko don't lift.

[roo boys!]

How long I wait on the Watson trade will depend on if GAJ is named this week I think. Will most likely be doing Watson next week, and Nicholls trade whenever I can afford Pav/Cyril/someone that I am happy with which will most likely be 2-3 weeks from now.

Jack and Griffen both pretty big breakevens so I can afford to wait a little if GAJ plays. If he doesn't I'll just grab Jack this week and have it over with.

[nrich102]

Jack and Bartell

[roo boys!]

Grabbing Jack/Selwood and Minson/Roughy (doubt I'll get Bartel) has taken a commanding lead in the poll - 34 to 10 at this stage.

But for some reason or another I'm more tempted to go Pav and Griffen...wato's convinced me I reckon. Anyone to talk me out of it? Ablett is named so I can hold Jobe for another week with TMitch on the bench.

[_wato]

Grabbing Jack/Selwood and Minson/Roughy (doubt I'll get Bartel) has taken a commanding lead in the poll - 34 to 10 at this stage.

But for some reason or another I'm more tempted to go Pav and Griffen...wato's convinced me I reckon. Anyone to talk me out of it? Ablett is named so I can hold Jobe for another week with TMitch on the bench.

Don't make me accountable if anything goes wrong! Haha but I'm only basing it on current form for Griff and Pav's capabilities and average from last year. If you want to take the punt that will make the difference do it, if you want absolute consistency without the real high ceiling grab Jack and Roughy/Minson. But Ablett is in you as you have said so you have that further 2-3 weeks to make your decision. Any doubts then go for your guts.

Still going my opinion mate, but poll is completely otherwise..

[roo boys!]

Nope, you're definitely going to be held liable for any damages to my team haha

Nah I really appreciate what you're doing for me here, and I think having the big ceilings of Pav and Griff in the team will certainly help. Griffen looks dynamic this year.

At least I'll be holding Jobe this week so I can take another look at all candidates, if Griff has another quiet one and Jack tears GWS a new one along with Minson playing well I'll reconsider, if Pav looks as though he's back I'll probably grab Griffen and wait for Pav to fall more.

Even heard a rumour today that Watson could be back in 3, at least I've got all of next week to hear any more about that and if it is somehow true (highly doubt it with a broken collarbone) I could hold him.

Cheers for the help mate

[roo boys!]

Sorry to bring this up again....but Jack and Griffen both quiet on the weekend, Selwood the only midfielder out of the bunch who starred. Mitchell covered more than adequately for Watson for this week, but scores from the weekend have me reconsidering.

Pav and Cyril both quite ordinary, if it weren't for the 3 late goals Pav was looking at about a 40-50...not very convincing form.

Perhaps the biggest development was Nicholls again starring, making me more and more tempted to keep him as R2. Minson and Roughy were both very good though.

Griffen will continue to fall a fair bit in cash, do I keep Watson on the bench waiting for Minson to bottom out? If Danger is indeed out for a month then I can't cover both. This is starting to get a lot more complicated than I had hoped it would.

Along with the Aussies getting done...this night is just too stressful for me :P

[_wato]

Sorry to bring this up again....but Jack and Griffen both quiet on the weekend, Selwood the only midfielder out of the bunch who starred. Mitchell covered more than adequately for Watson for this week, but scores from the weekend have me reconsidering.

Pav and Cyril both quite ordinary, if it weren't for the 3 late goals Pav was looking at about a 40-50...not very convincing form.

Perhaps the biggest development was Nicholls again starring, making me more and more tempted to keep him as R2. Minson and Roughy were both very good though.

Griffen will continue to fall a fair bit in cash, do I keep Watson on the bench waiting for Minson to bottom out? If Danger is indeed out for a month then I can't cover both. This is starting to get a lot more complicated than I had hoped it would.

Along with the Aussies getting done...this night is just too stressful for me :P

This is very interesting now. I still think Griff is the pick of the Mids and he will soon be around the 600k mark. Has a BE of 220 and coming off the back of two lean weeks. Doesn't score well against Essendon and a 107 against GWS prior to that.

They were both very disappointing this week especially Pav. Haven't seen the footage but I've heard he's more than likely going to be having a holiday. Didn't watch the Hawks V Port game but Cyril seemed to be a little bit out of it aswell.

I have the same dilemma and am contemplating cashing in Maric now.. Nicholls smashed him on the weekend.

I would wait if you can a week on Griffen considering his BE if you can, if not get him in regardless. Danger will be out for 2-4 weeks so you can't cover him meaning you have to get rid of Watson now. Premo's fluctuate in price so you have to be willing to ride the waves, and I think he could be the best choice. Lets just hope he doesn't do what he did last year and start scoring sub 100 after having a huge few weeks.

Haha, this will be an ongoing topic all year by the looks of it. But good luck!

[roo boys!]

How'd I know that you'd be the one to reply mate, you've been absolutely phenomenal all throughout this topic, can't thank you enough. I think that's at least 4-5 cheers that I've issued to this stage haha

Like you mentioned with Danger out I'll probably have to trade Watson this week, could afford Griffen but not a lot of cash left and would really prefer to wait for him to get back to some good form as you said him returning to 2012 form (albeit not horrible form, but better options) could be an issue along with that massive breakeven playing the waiting game would make sense.

Unfortunately it just so turns out that I have a massive league game this week which will probably end up deciding the top 4, if I win I'll just about cement a spot in the top 2 but if I lose will drop down to 5th pending other results.

For this reason Selwood is seriously tempting me...still virtually the same price as Watson, and his form line is incredible:

137, bye, 135, 54 (Crowley), 151, 133

That would then leave me with 180k in the bank still, and Nicholls going close to securing the R2 spot all year means I'm tempted to use that coin to upgrade Hartlett to either Shaw (80k left for injury trades) or Ibbo (120k left)

Which would leave my team looking like:

Def: Goddard, Gibbs, Shaw/Ibbo, Hibberd, McKenzie, Goodes (Wilson, Oxley)
Mid: Ablett, Pendles, Swan, Selwood, JPK, Cotchin, Priddis, Mitchell (Dangerfield, Martin)
Ruc: Goldstein, Nicholls (Gorringe, McBean)
Fwd: Stevie J, Walker, NicNat, Rocky, Cox, JJK (Staker, Burbury)

3 trades, either $80k or $120k in the bank.