Dream Team Vs Super Coach

[BB67th]

I dream of a competition where one day the key defender is rewarded, and given points for spoils. Until that day, I continue to wait.....

[LF]

Play DT and SC this year (UF as well but that is DT scoring system) and I think DT is much better. The SC scoring system may 'sound' better in theory but in reality it is terrible IMO. Points for kicking a goal on the siren etc is stupid.

Going to play them all next year - DT, SC, UF as well as Sportal, Sportsbet, Stadium Sports and Centre Bets (which ones have the same scoring systems?).

Sportsbet is similar to DT
Sportal and Centrebet more like SC but without the stupid 3300 cap

Stadium sport you can play anytime you want even joining now since its totally different to the other comps in that you make a weekly team every week and you make a team for each game as well

[tbagrocks]

Sportal is flawed, Sports/CentreBet better! I don't agree with the Sportal scoring

[tbagrocks]

TBH I don't really agree with any system which penalizes or heavily rewards affective/inaffective disposal, who decides what is inaffective?

[Mat0369]

I voted for SC. Although SC has its flaws (Cotchin vs Freo, the Heppell goal), they are generally pretty good with the way they weight their scores. I have played DT, SC and Sportal. I used to like Sportal before thy changed it back in 06 or 07, I have not really played it since. I dislike DT since I don't like the fact a player can butcher the ball, have no influence on the game and have a huge score.


I also like the rolling lockout in SC so that is another plus. They should have had the rolling lockout from last season with the way teams make late changes. The rolling lockout saved my ass in round 1 with Beams being a late withdrawal, I was able to trade him out to another premium without having to burn a trade.

[Master Q]

If SC is about picking the most effective players, and DT is about picking the players who get the most of the ball; how can you compare them?

[Mat0369]

If a player has 30 touches a game and turns it over 15, a couple of those resulting in direct goals, DT will reward them where SC will penalise the player. SC also takes contest possessions into account, so it is about how you win and use the ball, not about how many kicks you have regardless of where they go. The perfect comparisons are Stanton and Watson. Jobe has more of an influence on games with his touches so is rewarded. Stanton, well, point made

[Master Q]

If a player has 30 touches a game and turns it over 15, a couple of those resulting in direct goals, DT will reward them where SC will penalise the player. SC also takes contest possessions into account, so it is about how you win and use the ball, not about how many kicks you have regardless of where they go. The perfect comparisons are Stanton and Watson. Jobe has more of an influence on games with his touches so is rewarded. Stanton, well, point made

Still doesn't answer my question -

Saying SC is better is the exact same as saying that players being rewarded by effectiveness is better than players being rewarded by disposal count.

They are different scoring systems, so you can't REALLY compare them as they are different games (even though I think the SC scoring system is stupid). A case where you could compare is if two games share the same scoring system, but one has rolling lockout, one doesn't, for example.

[Master Q]

lol I am talking complete crap.

[Ringo]

Biased as I started with SC to get me into fantasy football but branched out this year into Sportal, Sportsbet and a little of DT.  Each competition has  their faults with scoring systems and subjectivity so basically it comes down to personal prefernces as what is most suited to your style of FF. 
Like BB I would like to see added to the scoring effective spoils for defenders that way we may see some Key defenders add to their average. If say we were to add 3 points for effective spoils some defenders woulld get appropriate recognition.

[Scrads]

I dream of a competition where one day the key defender is rewarded, and given points for spoils. Until that day, I continue to wait.....

I Bring this up at the end of every year!!

[nrich102]

Would this be right? The concept of SC is like Communism. The ideas good, but its not.

[Vinny]

I think what we want is a system like this -

A standardized scoring system where each player is awarded as any other player where the outcome of the game is not effecting their scores. Also that points given at crucial moments in the game are no different to points given at the start of the game.

The rules of SC- 30 trades a year where a there is a maxiumum of two trades a week - The rolling lockout to be included.

Include some actions in the game where points are deserved - effective spoils.. etc.

But then again like Ringo said there is personal preference. Play whatever you like. Dont like SC - Try DT.

It is mainly about whichever one you enjoy but what I said above is what seems like most would agree on. :)

[elephants]

Would this be right? The concept of SC is like Communism. The ideas good, but its not.

Hahaha I like that analogy, well done ;)

[Master Q]

Where as some say the idea of DT is bad, but it's good. So DT > SC, because DT is good and SC is bad  :P