Jobe Watson - not good

Started by Bentekezzz, June 24, 2013, 10:59:25 PM

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Quote from: quinny88 on June 25, 2013, 01:13:42 PM
I was cautious of loading up with Essendon players at the start of the season for this reason. Worried they would be banned or something. Will supercoach compensate if they are banned?  :o Gonna leave some people in a pickle f they have popular players like , Hibberd, Heppel, Jobe, Ryder etc and they are all banned. Obviosuly only a slight possibility of this happening but still

Same here Quinny, I only grabbed Goddard and have given the others a wide berth. Call me over cautious but I heard from someone fairly high in the Essendonian's that the AFL actually has another fixture based on 17 teams ready to roll out if Essendon gets 'banned' this season. Don't boo me, just throwing out what I heard.

Frozensage

i dont think anyone would care about supercoach points when there are bigger issues at hand when dealing with drug... some ppl just don't have their priority right.

Mat0369

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Quote from: vinny on June 25, 2013, 02:02:09 PM
Say Essendon plays are banned.

Supercoach will compensate, won't they ?

Who knows, I don't think they would unless the club is forced to forfeit games. It would work as any other suspension I assume

Quote from: fever on June 25, 2013, 02:02:42 PM
yeah but it's not like asada wouldnt have already known, since they interviewed him weeks ago and it undoubtedly would've come up. so what are they waiting for?

edit: in reply to mat

Honestly who knows. Unless ASADA and WADA say one thing and do another, the admission on TV is not a good thing.

Quote from: BratPack on June 25, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
Guys guys guys, nothing is going to happen. Essendon would've told him to shut up about it if they were in any doubt that he could get into trouble.

I doubt they knew he was going to admit to taking the substance. Bomber was asked by Mark Robinson on 360 if he had said to stop the injections which he said I can't answer that.

It was effectively an admission of guilt followed up with, I don't think I have done anything wrong.

BratPack

Quote from: Mat0369 on June 25, 2013, 02:13:24 PM
Quote from: BratPack on June 25, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
Guys guys guys, nothing is going to happen. Essendon would've told him to shut up about it if they were in any doubt that he could get into trouble.

I doubt they knew he was going to admit to taking the substance. Bomber was asked by Mark Robinson on 360 if he had said to stop the injections which he said I can't answer that.

Right and they wouldn't have said to him "If they ask you about anything that pertains to the investigation, just say I can't answer that or no comment"? Come on now, they knew it would be asked. Nothing is going to happen to Jobe or any other player, Bomber Thompson on the other hand is flowered

Vinny

So should I bring Watson in this week or not ?  :-\

quinny88

Quote from: vinny on June 25, 2013, 02:17:18 PM
So should I bring Watson in this week or not ?  :-\

I wouldnt. Get Griffin if you dont have him already

Mat0369

Quote from: BratPack on June 25, 2013, 02:16:43 PM
Right and they wouldn't have said to him "If they ask you about anything that pertains to the investigation, just say I can't answer that or no comment"? Come on now, they knew it would be asked. Nothing is going to happen to Jobe or any other player, Bomber Thompson on the other hand is flowered

Well then the media manager at the Bombers should get the sack. In no way is it a smart idea to admit through the media, even if you have behind closed doors in the interview that you have taken a banned substance. Considering the governing bodies in WADA and ASADA claim that ignorance is not an excuse, he just effectively played that as his defense in a public forum.

It might not be right but hearing the words come out of Watson's mouth, that is not good at all

???

Quote from: quinny88 on June 25, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
Quote from: vinny on June 25, 2013, 02:17:18 PM
So should I bring Watson in this week or not ?  :-\

I wouldnt. Get Griffin if you dont have him already

Griffin has done his ACL, plus he is a ruckman not a midfielder.

Vinny

Quote from: quinny88 on June 25, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
Quote from: vinny on June 25, 2013, 02:17:18 PM
So should I bring Watson in this week or not ?  :-\

I wouldnt. Get Griffin if you dont have him already

Hmm I am not sure I can handle his price tag in my situation. Could you maybe take a look at my post in Rate My SC Section and chuck me some advice.  It is called " Help Save My Side. Will Cheer. "

Thanks :)

GCSkiwi

Quote from: ??? on June 25, 2013, 02:24:25 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on June 25, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
Quote from: vinny on June 25, 2013, 02:17:18 PM
So should I bring Watson in this week or not ?  :-\

I wouldnt. Get Griffin if you dont have him already

Griffin has done his ACL, plus he is a ruckman not a midfielder.

Yep pretty sure he meant Griffen and everyone figured that out...


Jesty

Quote from: Frozensage on June 25, 2013, 02:06:03 PM
i dont think anyone would care about supercoach points when there are bigger issues at hand when dealing with drug... some ppl just don't have their priority right.

It is a SC discussion board.  :o

insano

It is beyond me how a player can admit to taking a banned substance (yes it is banned under S0 of WADA) and still expect to play the following week.  In any other sport, once you admit to taking a banned substance, you're gone. 

Surely the AFL need to step in here before footy becomes the laughing stock...

Ps. I have Watson in my DT too.

kilbluff1985

Quote from: insano on June 25, 2013, 03:29:08 PM
It is beyond me how a player can admit to taking a banned substance (yes it is banned under S0 of WADA) and still expect to play the following week.  In any other sport, once you admit to taking a banned substance, you're gone. 

Surely the AFL need to step in here before footy becomes the laughing stock...

Ps. I have Watson in my DT too.

it's only been banned this year

milisha98

Why is everyone ignoring the elephant in the room?

There is allegedly a document from ASADA giving the green tick of approval to the use of AOD-9604 issued at the time they started their supplement program. It is understood that at the very least Stephen Dank has this document in his possession, and it is likely Essendon have a copy too. Now that ASADA are back-peddling does not mean it is immune from a legal challenge - of which Essendon would have a strong case if this is true.

The other possibility is that Stephen Dank defrauded Essendon and ASADA by producing false documentation, in which case it will be a matter for the police.

Secondly, even what WADA says is open to debate. WADA said in a statement dated 13th febuary 2013 page 40 that AOD-9604 is not prohibited to the australian crime commission. While they are saying it is illegal now, does not mean it is not open for legal dispute when they have issued contrary statements in the past.

Thirdly, whether ADO-9604 has not been sufficiently trialled is also debatable. There have been a few human trials - and what's more, when prepared by a compounding chemist for human use, apparently different rules apply.

Ricochet

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-says-essendon-captain-jobe-watson-will-be-allowed-to-play-this-week-despite-drugs-admission/story-fni5f6kv-1226669557254

THE AFL will not stop Jobe Watson playing this week despite the Brownlow medallist admitting he took the banned drug AOD-9604 in the 2012 season.

Watson's public revelations were already known to the AFL via the joint ASADA-AFL investigation, and the AFL knows how many players have taken the anti-obesity drug.

The AFL maintains its stance the process of the investigation must be completed before ascertaining if any penalty on a player or on the club is required.

The Bombers face West Coast in Perth on Thursday night.

Essendon is expected to clarify Watson's comments this afternoon by declaring the club has not conceded banned drugs were administered to players.

Following Watson's comments last night that he believed he took AOD-9604, the Bombers' stance centres on whether the anti-obesity drug is a banned substance.

But former Australian anti-doping boss Richard Ings says he can't see how Bombers players can escape penalty.


In almost every other sport Jobe Watson would be banned immediately after admitting taking a banned drug. He can't possible play this week.

— David Culbert (@Culbert_Report) June 24, 2013


The world anti-doping authority has today reaffirmed its stance that AOD-9604 is a banned substance under category S0, which states substances not approved for human use are prohibited at all times.