Jobe Watson - not good

[sidvicious]

And if Matthew Knights was still the head coach while all this was going on he would have been stood down instantly .

[Keeper27]

What's worse tanking or breaching a salary cap?

i agree both are bad, but tanking is kind of a hard thing to define.

i mean, is what Melbourne doing now considered as tanking??
you can clearly see they give up half way through a game... is not trying tanking??

Melbourne is a sh!t club, been for a while (no offence to any DEES fans) and some play with no heart or if they do they realize its of no use and give up anyways, so to say they tanked its a bit harsh.

and the cap breach, yes its wrong but all you are doing is paying out of the salary cap, you are not actually "improving" your players and giving them an unfair advantage over the opposition.

thats why i personally reckon the AFL, ASADA, WADA and whoever f*cking else should come down hard.
Carlton's cap breach cost them $930K and draft picks for 3 seasons.

this is way worse, they should be punished very harshly depending on how many players get "caught" doping.
5 years draft pick restrictions, 1st and 2nd round.
$1.5m fine
and player bans

the AFL are weak and wont do any of this IMO, they'd rather look after the image of the f'n game and their pockets then do anything serious, but its not in their hands anymore it comes down to ASADA.

[Jesty]

Does this mean all SC points from Jobe will be stripped. 8)

[quinny88]

I was cautious of loading up with Essendon players at the start of the season for this reason. Worried they would be banned or something. Will supercoach compensate if they are banned?  :o Gonna leave some people in a pickle f they have popular players like , Hibberd, Heppel, Jobe, Ryder etc and they are all banned. Obviosuly only a slight possibility of this happening but still

[Ricochet]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-25/jobe-liable-for-drug-use-wada?utm_medium=RSS

THE WORLD Anti-Doping Agency has reaffirmed the banned status of AOD-9604 after Essendon captain Jobe Watson admitted he'd been injected with the substance.

Watson insists he has done nothing wrong, having followed advice from Essendon medical staff, and he was surprised by WADA's statement last month confirming the drug was banned.

But WADA president John Fahey said on Tuesday "nothing has changed" and repeated the obligations athletes are under. 

"You are responsible for what goes into your system, it's a strict liability," Fahey told AFL.com.au.

"Now whether or not there's any mitigating circumstances depends on individual cases, and that's a matter for ASADA who are currently investigating it.

Fahey wouldn't comment specifically on Watson's revealing interview on Fox Footy's On The Couch program on Monday night.

"I won't comment on that, that's a matter for ASADA ... any comments I make would only complicate that," he said. 

Fahey said he had no issue with the time the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority was taking to investigate the allegations against Essendon.

"Lance Armstrong, start to finish, took somewhere like two and three-quarter years. These things take what they take, it's as simple as that," Fahey said. 

The WADA boss said his organisation would review the Bombers' case only once the ASADA and AFL process had finished.

"We look at the results when it's concluded, we look to see if the code is being applied correctly, if it hasn't been applied correctly we have the right of appeal," Fahey said.

He said WADA could lodge an appeal on behalf of either his organisation or an accused athlete if it believed they had been treated unfairly.

"We can appeal on behalf of either if we don't believe the code has been applied in a correct manner," he said.

It is unlikely the League will make any comment about Watson's revelations on Tuesday.

On Tuesday morning, Watson's father Tim told radio station SEN he supported his son and said Essendon players were certain they hadn't taken a banned substance.

[tor01doc]

On Tuesday morning, Watson's father Tim told radio station SEN he supported his son and said Essendon players were certain they hadn't taken a banned substance.

And Carl Williams' mum thought he was an angel!  ::)

[GCSkiwi]

On Tuesday morning, Watson's father Tim told radio station SEN he supported his son and said Essendon players were certain they hadn't taken a banned substance.

And Carl Williams' mum thought he was an angel!  ::)

Yeah exactly...

In relation to Ricochet's full post, I think it will be the "mitigating circumstances" that will heavily affect any penalties dished out. Fahey spells it out nicely though, strictly speaking, athletes are responsible and AOD is banned. I don't believe that is in dispute. With Jobe saying he doesn'y believe he took a banned substance, is that based on nothing more than the affirmations of club staff that the injections being given were legal? Because in that scenario I could totally understand that viewpoint even if it was wrong...

[Mat0369]

If anyone that missed the interview last night and can watch Fox Footy, they are about to show it again now

[SydneyRox]

 I cant see how they will get away with not banning the whole list if they were all part of the injections.

As Ricochet pointed out the other athletes caught taking items much less severe (cold and flue tablets?!!), who also pleaded they thought they were ok, got dealt with pretty harshly.

The WADA people keep coming out saying that the athlete has a responsibility to ensure they know exactly what is being injected into them. Saying the club told me it was alright isnt going to cut it.

Things like having to sign a waiver and getting the injections off site wont help the cause of football club or player if these things are true, should make any normal person think twice about what was going on.

[Mat0369]

I just watched the interview, he is screwed.

[fever]

well IF he is screwed, why haven't ASADA acted yet? what would they be waiting for?

[Mat0369]

well IF he is screwed, why haven't ASADA acted yet? what would they be waiting for?

He blatantly admits that he took a banned substance and said that he knew he was taking this substance.

To quote from earlier

But WADA president John Fahey said on Tuesday "nothing has changed" and repeated the obligations athletes are under. 

"You are responsible for what goes into your system, it's a strict liability," Fahey told AFL.com.au.

He is going to be in deep shower. The worst thing he could have done was stating he had taken the substance in question through the media

The only thing you can think they are waiting for is to complete the investigation on the entire club before releasing their findings on individuals

[Vinny]

Say Essendon plays are banned.

Supercoach will compensate, won't they ?

[fever]

yeah but it's not like asada wouldnt have already known, since they interviewed him weeks ago and it undoubtedly would've come up. so what are they waiting for?

edit: in reply to mat

[BratPack]

Guys guys guys, nothing is going to happen. Essendon would've told him to shut up about it if they were in any doubt that he could get into trouble.