The Ashes

[fidou]

Mickey Arther is asking for 4 mill in his legal action and has said he could not control the events of the team due to the Clarke/Watson camps in the team. He is also claiming racial overtones etc.

We all know about Clarke/Watson etc but racial problems get real Mickey you come from country of racial hatred so flower OFF. I know I worked in your country for 3 and half years under apartheid so coming to Australia and claiming race and being white, give me a break are you for real.

[_wato]

New to this thread so gday lads.

Couldn't believe it when we lost on Sunday.
Was the biggest anti climax I've ever witnessed apart from the 2010 AFL Grand Final.

But Lord's will be another tough game.. Last game there Broad got 7-44 and Anderson 5 fa so it won't be easy.

Possible line up?

Watson
Rogers
Khawaja
Hughes
Clarke
Smith
Haddin
Siddle
Pattinson
Agar
Harris

Think Harris and Khawaja deserve a call up. Harris will love the conditions and is a very experienced line and length bowler. Starc didn't do enough I feel especially with the bat when it was his turn. Too many balls down leg side and balls that gifted runs.
Cowan needs runs and form quick. First dismissal on Day 1 was dismal. Clarke to 5 so he doesn't have the ultimate threat of the new ball and as we all know he loves that position.. Hughes to 4? Food for thought.

Opinions, thoughts?

[Cicjose]

no way would Khawaja get called up..... according to most sources he still cant field

[Jukes]

1. Cowan
2. Quiney
3. Khawaja
4. Marsh
5. Clarke (not to play- only for reviews)
6. Paine
7. Hastings
8. Johnson
9. George
10. Starc
11. Doherty

My best Aussie XV, all players have played a test in the last 3 and a half years.

[BB67th]

Mickey Arther is asking for 4 mill in his legal action and has said he could not control the events of the team due to the Clarke/Watson camps in the team. He is also claiming racial overtones etc.

We all know about Clarke/Watson etc but racial problems get real Mickey you come from country of racial hatred so flower OFF. I know I worked in your country for 3 and half years under apartheid so coming to Australia and claiming race and being white, give me a break are you for real.

I saw this on the news earlier tonight and I just laughed. If this is how he now reacts, by throwing a temper tantrum and saying that the Aussies were all racist, then he never deserved to be the national coach. He complained that he was mistreated for the way that he handled the homework saga and David Warner's night out, but does he actually think that he did a good job there? And to say that we were racist to him just because we said 'You don't know the Aussie spirit"?! They were obviously absolutely right when they asked that question and he knows nothing about standing up for Aussie values. I hope he gets no money out of it, nothing but a hindrance to the team.

And these people now saying that Lehman has made no difference and that we were destroyed in the first test. 14 runs is an absolute smashing isn't it? I mean, it's not like anyone has ever lost a test match by such a great margin before, I can certainly never remember that happening ::)  To say that Agar's knock was just luck is one of the stupidest things I have heard. If you think events in cricket are going to go how they are expected to and will go to everyone's averages, then wake up. The whole point of the game is that every match is different, and the score that the team posts at the end of the day is the score that goes down in the record books as the final result. So no, we didn't get smashed, we lose a very close game by 14 runs.

[roo boys!]

New to this thread so gday lads.

Couldn't believe it when we lost on Sunday.
Was the biggest anti climax I've ever witnessed apart from the 2010 AFL Grand Final.

But Lord's will be another tough game.. Last game there Broad got 7-44 and Anderson 5 fa so it won't be easy.

Possible line up?

Watson
Rogers
Khawaja
Hughes
Clarke
Smith
Haddin
Siddle
Pattinson
Agar
Harris

Think Harris and Khawaja deserve a call up. Harris will love the conditions and is a very experienced line and length bowler. Starc didn't do enough I feel especially with the bat when it was his turn. Too many balls down leg side and balls that gifted runs.
Cowan needs runs and form quick. First dismissal on Day 1 was dismal. Clarke to 5 so he doesn't have the ultimate threat of the new ball and as we all know he loves that position.. Hughes to 4? Food for thought.

Opinions, thoughts?

You've gotta be kidding me, first off you're the one to give me all the help with my Supercoach side and now you suggest the exact same XI that I had proposed earlier haha

I think this will be a pretty popular lineup but haven't seen too many people mention the Hughes/Clarke swap to 4 and 5 respectively, I've said it while there's been all this talk about Clarke "accepting responsibility" and moving up the order, I said it a few days ago and I'll say it again, if he does his best work at 5 (record breaking year at 5) then WHY MOVE HIM?!

Hughes has shown that he's more than capable against the new rock, and could provide a bit more flair while still possessing a solider than a few years ago defence, would be a good pairing with Khawaja/Rogers I feel, and if both him and Watson are on then look out.

I'm a big Starc fan but was a bit below where we all know he should be, despite his wickets and I felt that Harris was unlucky not to get a gig in the first test, I see it as priority number 1 = get Harris into the side, relish this limited time that he's fit, and then priority number two is finding someone to make way.

As for England, Finn was erratic and will go, I think Bresnan seems the obvious replacement but Onions pitching it up with a hint of late swing could be dangerous on the roads they dish up at Lords.

[_wato]

You've gotta be kidding me, first off you're the one to give me all the help with my Supercoach side and now you suggest the exact same XI that I had proposed earlier haha

I think this will be a pretty popular lineup but haven't seen too many people mention the Hughes/Clarke swap to 4 and 5 respectively, I've said it while there's been all this talk about Clarke "accepting responsibility" and moving up the order, I said it a few days ago and I'll say it again, if he does his best work at 5 (record breaking year at 5) then WHY MOVE HIM?!

Hughes has shown that he's more than capable against the new rock, and could provide a bit more flair while still possessing a solider than a few years ago defence, would be a good pairing with Khawaja/Rogers I feel, and if both him and Watson are on then look out.

I'm a big Starc fan but was a bit below where we all know he should be, despite his wickets and I felt that Harris was unlucky not to get a gig in the first test, I see it as priority number 1 = get Harris into the side, relish this limited time that he's fit, and then priority number two is finding someone to make way.

As for England, Finn was erratic and will go, I think Bresnan seems the obvious replacement but Onions pitching it up with a hint of late swing could be dangerous on the roads they dish up at Lords.

Hahahaha isn't it odd mate? Sorry if I re wrote your team, haven't really looked through the past few pages of thread, so my apologies.

Exactly! Just because of the leave of Ponting doesn't mean every player has to move up a position and swap them all around. To be fairly honest we have 4 capable openers in our team and this is why we lack. Hussey was a proper number 6 and Ponting perfect number 3. Warner was a good opening batsman but meant there was a hole.. And what'd they do? Brought in Rogers.
Cowan can't do his best work at 3 considering he's spent all his career opening, and Hughes is an opener not a Number 5 batsman to be that rock in the middle of the innings. We need to find our best opening pair then bleed middle order batsman.

Very true, Harris is the man for the job. Can't go past him. Starc is the man to go, as Sids and Patto have done enough to justify selection again. Bird will be very unlucky once again.

Yep, one would think so. Bresnan for me, as he can bat. The lower order of England is very susceptible to crumbling so if Australia can get a few early wickets then watch out for an England tumble.

We're in for a chance this game.

[nrich102]

1. Cowan
2. Quiney
3. Khawaja
4. Marsh
5. Clarke (not to play- only for reviews)
6. Paine
7. Hastings
8. Johnson
9. George
10. Starc
11. Doherty

My best Aussie XV, all players have played a test in the last 3 and a half years.

That's only 11 (XI) lol.

New to this thread so gday lads.

Couldn't believe it when we lost on Sunday.
Was the biggest anti climax I've ever witnessed apart from the 2010 AFL Grand Final.

But Lord's will be another tough game.. Last game there Broad got 7-44 and Anderson 5 fa so it won't be easy.

Possible line up?

Watson
Rogers
Khawaja
Hughes
Clarke
Smith
Haddin
Siddle
Pattinson
Agar
Harris

Think Harris and Khawaja deserve a call up. Harris will love the conditions and is a very experienced line and length bowler. Starc didn't do enough I feel especially with the bat when it was his turn. Too many balls down leg side and balls that gifted runs.
Cowan needs runs and form quick. First dismissal on Day 1 was dismal. Clarke to 5 so he doesn't have the ultimate threat of the new ball and as we all know he loves that position.. Hughes to 4? Food for thought.

Opinions, thoughts?

I think Hughes should play at 5, not 4 IMO.

[valkorum]

Rogers
Hughes
Khwaja (sp?)
Clarke
Smith
Watson
Haddin
Agar
Siddle
Bird
Pattinson

This is my squad for the next test. 

Watson should only play if he can bowl.  If he cant bowl then he goes out and Harris comes in. 
Bird must play at Lords - END OF STORY!!!
COWAN - GORN!
Hughes gets a shot at opening with Khwaja at #3 (or swap, not fussed)

[Jukes]

1. Cowan
2. Quiney
3. Khawaja
4. Marsh
5. Clarke (not to play- only for reviews)
6. Paine
7. Hastings
8. Johnson
9. George
10. Starc
11. Doherty

My best Aussie XV, all players have played a test in the last 3 and a half years.

That's only 11 (XI) lol.

damn XVs screwing with my head

[elephants]

Lehmann's been all talk no action

Your all talk, no action.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha ;D love it 8)

[PowerBug]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/current/story/651863.html

Good read about the decisions from the 1st test :) 7 incorrect deicions were made, 4 were correct through DRS, 2 could've been corrected if Australia had DRS, and the Trott decision (Not Out) was correct until overturned.

As such, the correct decision percentage before reviews stood at 90.3% but climbed to 95.8% as a result of the use of the DRS. This represented an increase of 5.5% in correct decisions, which was the average increase from DRS Test matches in 2012-13.

"Technology was introduced with the objective of eradicating the obvious umpiring errors, and to get as many correct decisions as possible. If it can help increase the correct decisions by 5.5 percent, then it is a good outcome, but we must continue to strive to improve umpiring and the performance of the DRS."

[_wato]

I think Hughes should play at 5, not 4 IMO.

So you'd rather put Clarke there at 4 who scored the most runs in a calendar season by any batsman batting at 5?

Hughes is an opening batsman mind you, so can handle the new ball if we are 2 down early. Clarke is suscpetible to the new ball and is better with the older ball, and therefore he can hopefully spark what he did last year again. 0 and 23 to start the series isn't the best way to start.

To be perfectly honest, Hughes should be at 4 and Clarke at 5 IMO.

[Capper]

I dont think that we will make any changes to the team. You need to have a left and right arm bowlers for variety IMO and Starc and Patto are it atm along with the work horse "Siddle", The vegan that like soft shell crab.

Althoug Starc did make some quality footmarks for Swans to do nothing with

[Nige]

I dont think that we will make any changes to the team. You need to have a left and right arm bowlers for variety IMO and Starc and Patto are it atm along with the work horse "Siddle", The vegan that like soft shell crab.

Althoug Starc did make some quality footmarks for Swans to do nothing with

You don't think 'the Cow' should/will make way for Uzzie?