AXVS: FEEDBACK - VOTE / CHANGE IDEAS

Started by Colliwobblers, June 13, 2013, 11:07:28 PM

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Colliwobblers

Setting up this thread as a place to post and discuss any and all possible changes to rules, setup and general running of the AXVS competition.

Any complaints, dislikes or likes, as well as what you might want to change, what you would not want touched.

Things on the radar so far, are drafts, trades, bye rounds, utility and emergency cover set up, the draw.

Anything on your mind or anything you want to raise post it here.

Everything we come up with that has any support and or credibility to it we will form options for the changes and all items will be voted on by AXVS team owners at the end of the 2013 season.

If I don't like or agree with the idea i might just delete it :)  but most likely not  ;)

THE LIST

1) HGA during Finals - re vote.
2) HGA % Bonus - re vote.
3) Trade Approval process - revote.
4) Discussion on the DRAW - I will announce changes for 2014 and take feedback - vote if required.
5) Playing in 2014 during the byes, discussion - vote will have to wait until we know what the fixture for 2014 will be (AFL)
6) Team submission/naming rule changes. There will be one at least.
7) score updates bonus (british style) do we want it or not.
8 ) Assistant roles for administrator in competition.
9) Scoring - cover for emergencies / utility positions.
10) NEW RIVALS?
11) finals layout bonus' discussion based on top 4 ladder positions.
12) trade rules - in particular 1 for 1 trades only or not.

Memphistopheles

Hey Colli I'm not sure if this has been discussed properly but what about the idea of home ground advantage in the finals (excluding the Grand Final).

The AFL has it and it rewards the teams who finish higher on the ladder.

I know I'm bit biased given my ladder position but I would be in favour of it.

Colliwobblers

Quote from: Memphistopheles on June 24, 2013, 12:35:35 PM
Hey Colli I'm not sure if this has been discussed properly but what about the idea of home ground advantage in the finals (excluding the Grand Final).

The AFL has it and it rewards the teams who finish higher on the ladder.

I know I'm bit biased given my ladder position but I would be in favour of it.

i am also in favour of it but we voted on it and the winner was no home ground at all in any finals.

can put it to the vote again tho. :)

BB67th

Quote from: Memphistopheles on June 24, 2013, 12:35:35 PM
Hey Colli I'm not sure if this has been discussed properly but what about the idea of home ground advantage in the finals (excluding the Grand Final).

The AFL has it and it rewards the teams who finish higher on the ladder.

I know I'm bit biased given my ladder position but I would be in favour of it.
Haha yeah I also would like it if I was winning right now or not, but I feel it should be there because it rewards you for finishing 1st instead of 4th.

Ricochet

I like nearly any rule that brings us closer to real life AFL. I would vote yes to HGA in finals

Colliwobblers


Colliwobblers

we will alos be discussing and voting on the approval process for trades next season.

I see 2 options same as last season.

by admin, or by majority of coaches votes.

i think best to add an appeals process - so if a trade is blocked under a majority vote system i see the best way to resolve it being an outside committee , likely the 3 other XVS admins.

and if i was to decide on a vote again and if blocked the coaches involves could appeal it OR a coach or multiple coaches outside of the trade could appeal it being passed and again it goes to the committee for review.

my only concern would be annoying the other admins by having them have to vote and decide on evry AXVS trade.

ANY IDEAS HERE NEED TO BE DISCUSSED AND PUT FORWARD AND THIS WILL BE VOTED ON .

amongst any other ideas for changes.

tbagrocks

A trade and/or draft period in June/July?

Where we could delist a player and pick another, also a trade period of say 2 list movements?

Jroo

Quote from: tbagrocks on July 16, 2013, 05:35:57 PM
A trade and/or draft period in June/July?

Where we could delist a player and pick another, also a trade period of say 2 list movements?
Or even just a trade period where we can delist a player and pick players who belong to no team (who weren't picked up in any of the drafts).

Colliwobblers

i highly doubt we will be having any trade periods outside of the dates the AFL does, this is supposed to be a realistic afl simulation remember.

Jroo

Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 16, 2013, 09:46:33 PM
i highly doubt we will be having any trade periods outside of the dates the AFL does, this is supposed to be a realistic afl simulation remember.
Yep and that's fair enough. If we're trying to be like the AFL then there's no need for a mid season trade period.

tbagrocks

Ok cool, actually agree! CW to replace Dumbetriou :o

BTW, vote for me as admin! I'm mature :P  Seriously though!

Colliwobblers

Quote from: tbagrocks on July 16, 2013, 10:04:30 PM
Ok cool, actually agree! CW to replace Dumbetriou :o

BTW, vote for me as admin! I'm mature :P  Seriously though!

if you want to take over as admin you are welcome to it ;) the amount of things to do each week might surprise you.....  but you can have my vote for a start :)

nostradamus

Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 15, 2013, 09:39:52 PM
we will alos be discussing and voting on the approval process for trades next season.

I see 2 options same as last season.

by admin, or by majority of coaches votes.

i think best to add an appeals process - so if a trade is blocked under a majority vote system i see the best way to resolve it being an outside committee , likely the 3 other XVS admins.

and if i was to decide on a vote again and if blocked the coaches involves could appeal it OR a coach or multiple coaches outside of the trade could appeal it being passed and again it goes to the committee for review.

my only concern would be annoying the other admins by having them have to vote and decide on evry AXVS trade.

ANY IDEAS HERE NEED TO BE DISCUSSED AND PUT FORWARD AND THIS WILL BE VOTED ON .

amongst any other ideas for changes.

I'm sorry but l'm totally against the majority vote idea, in my opinion there's too much scope for voting to be affected by biases if we go down this path ........i.e. voting based on self-interest, or bias due to a team being percieved as strong enough already (especially if they come out slightly better in the trade in question), and l hate to say it but personalities can come into it too (if someone can be a bit annoying or rub people up the wrong way there's potential for their trades to be judged more harshly)

I believe Colli should have total say as to whether or not trades pass, I trust him totally and have always found him to be impartial and fair......."why change it if it aint broken?"

**however if we are to seriously consider going down the path of having a panel, l think it needs to be discussed as to the panels format and rules prior to any vote so we all have a clear idea of what (and who) we're actually voting for.** 

nostradamus

Quote from: Memphistopheles on June 24, 2013, 12:35:35 PM
Hey Colli I'm not sure if this has been discussed properly but what about the idea of home ground advantage in the finals (excluding the Grand Final).

The AFL has it and it rewards the teams who finish higher on the ladder.

I know I'm bit biased given my ladder position but I would be in favour of it.

l dont agree, lets look at the AFL....its a mish mash as to HGA during finals

*interstate teams get a massive HGA if they're placed higher on the ladder

*could anyone say Geelong get a HGA during finals, l think not

*what about teams who's home ground is Etihad hmmmmm, it depends on their crowd pulling capacity as to whether they're fixtured there or the MCG

l think we should just leave as it is in our comp - no points based HGA
                                                                   - but keep (as in line with the AFL) the advantage of the double chnce for top 4 teams

We al talk about keeping it in line with the AFL, well lets keep it that way