Brisbane Discussion

[Nails]

I went from  :) when Lions lead early q1 to  :( then until en of q3 I was going  :( :( :'(

Then q4 came around I was like  ??? ??? :-\ :-\ >:( :-\ :-[ :-\ :) :) :) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[specky92]

Well done Brisbane! I'm sure Ringo had a blast!

[Ringo]

Yes specky was amazing. BP just about back to normal - need to do some gargling to restore voice. Noise in stadium deafening.

Do not think this win will take the pressure of Voss completely. Was not happy when I seen Hanley and Rockliff lining up forward at first bounce.

[Ringo]

Thought I would write up my appraisal of the game after coming down from the emotional high. Was amazing atmosphere at the Ground with one of our biggest crowds of the season creating a deafening roar in the last quarter, so much so that they had to keep the full time siren sounding for at least 20 seconds.  It was only when I viewed the last 2 minute Video that I realised the siren actually sounded just after McGrath took the mark.

Any way observations on the match from a Brisbane perspective.

It was not Voss's coaching that got the win it was the players and the effort in the final quarter. When will Voss realise that Hanley and Rockliff are not forwards and play them where they belong from the start.
Moloney undoubtedly played his best game for the season for the Lions and was the catalyst to lift the team in the last Quarter. Went Head to head with Selwood and although had less possessions his 3.1 return was very instrumental in the result.
Black what can you say was the outstanding player on the field and probably received the three Brownlow votes. In this form should he retire at the end of the season?
"Sauce" Merrett is definitely needed in defence and showed hos worth in the last quarter with some pressure marks in defence, Had his hands full with Hawkins and at times made a few poor decisions early which cost goals. Maybe this may have been a result of 3 weeks on the sidelines.
Jordan Lisle is providing an alternative target to Brown and hope Voss allows him to establish himself there. Also being used as as the relief Ruck which may or may not be a good thing.
Rich is working his way back to full fitness started like a house on fire but slowed a little.
McGrath lifted for his 200th game and kicked the winning goal. He has been under pressure from both Green and Banfield for this small forward role and answered the challenge.
Clarke developing well into the 3rd Tall defender and making it difficult for Maguire to force his way back in.
With Moloney being used as a run with player do we need to use Raines as a tagger. Was surprised that he was dropped but Moloney did a reasonable Job and Selwood.
Mayes copped an early knock and was largely ineffective and was subsequently subbed. Bewick should return if he does not come up to give more balance and allowing Hanley to return.
Will Voss now stop his revolving door policy given that he has staed that he wants to develop the core team in the 2nd half of the year.
Trust the team watches the video of the first 3/4 and see how Geelong moved the ball and found easy open targets. Too often the ball came into the centre and Geelong cleared by weight of numbers,
Lions need to ensure Tackles stick and attack the man with the ball. There were quite a few occasions in the match where the Geelong attacker was allowed to run with the defender standing off.

Umpiring again was inconsistent and as a fan hard to get a handle on the differences in Holding the Ball, Fair tackling and rolling the player resulting in in in the back calls, deliberate out of bounds, and the big one imo the Holding and scragging that goes on between defenders and forwards. This is not a winge against the umps for the Lions not winning the free kick count again at home (Yet to win a home free kick tally this year) but an observation as it effects both teams.

Was pleased that McGrath kicked the winning goal as the talking point would have been the inconclusive goal decision from Brown in the second quarter which imo was definitely a goal as I was right behind the goal and did not see a touch or even a touch on the replay.  We have seen so many "inconclusive" and subsequently wrong decisions this year so if the AFL is going to use this then it needs to improve the technology with high resolution cameras behind the goal and sensors in the goal posts to detect touches. As a fan at the ground waiting 3 - 4 minutes for the decision is not good either.
 

[nrich102]

Best team imo

FB: Clarke, Merrett, Patfull
HB: Golby, Adcock, Rich
MID: Hanley, Moloney, Zorko
HF: Black, Brown, Mayes
FF: Bewick, Lisle, Green
Fol: Luenberger, Rockliff, Reddan
Int: Raines, Docherty, Longer, Staker

Emg: Goose, Yeo/Harwood/Polkinghorn, Michael

I like having 2 Ruckman, I think it is one of the better ways to develop Longer. I dont think Black will play much at HFF, but I need to name him somewhere.

Any objections Strikes/BB67th/Ringo?

[Ringo]

McGrath is probably in front of both Green and Banfield atm.  Banfield is performing better than Green in the 2's as well.
Like 2 Ruckman myself but Longer needs to develop his kicking skills and forward positioning as a resting Ruckman.  Would like to see that developed in the 2's but at the moment in the 2's Longer is sole rucking with Michael playing this role.  Would like to see this reversed in 2's.
Lisle/Merrett will be serviceable as relief rucks as Berger he has the ticker to Ruck 80/90% of game time. Only time it would be an issue is coming up against teams with 2 genuine rucks like West Coast.
So would replace Longer with Lester.  I would have Lester before Yeo and Harwood.
After Moloneys performance yesterday as a run with player Raines may be a luxury on I/c bench but jury still out on this one. If this is proven the case for balance would have Green/Banfield replace Raines..

[nrich102]

forgot McGrath, lol

[nrich102]

http://instagram.com/p/a68Ab1q0c5/#

Hahahaha

[CrowsFan]

Great win by the Lions. Couldn't believe when I checked the score at the end of the game after seeing the score in 3rd quarter.

But why did Harwood start sub? He had been one of their better performers the previous 2 rounds surely?

[Ringo]

Great win by the Lions. Couldn't believe when I checked the score at the end of the game after seeing the score in 3rd quarter.

But why did Harwood start sub? He had been one of their better performers the previous 2 rounds surely?

IOne word CF - Voss

For a coach that needs to improve his performance some of his selections are mind boggling to say the least. 

[strikes91]

Best team imo

FB: Clarke, Merrett, Patfull
HB: Golby, Adcock, Rich
MID: Hanley, Moloney, Zorko
HF: Black, Brown, Mayes
FF: Bewick, Lisle, Green
Fol: Luenberger, Rockliff, Reddan
Int: Raines, Docherty, Longer, Staker

Emg: Goose, Yeo/Harwood/Polkinghorn, Michael

I like having 2 Ruckman, I think it is one of the better ways to develop Longer. I dont think Black will play much at HFF, but I need to name him somewhere.

Any objections Strikes/BB67th/Ringo?

yep love that team. as you said with black, probably has to go in the guts. he's very slick with his handballs. zorko could maybe rotate through the middle at times. Bewick needs to be in the team

[BB67th]

Best team imo

FB: Clarke, Merrett, Patfull
HB: Golby, Adcock, Rich
MID: Hanley, Moloney, Zorko
HF: Black, Brown, Mayes
FF: Bewick, Lisle, Green
Fol: Luenberger, Rockliff, Reddan
Int: Raines, Docherty, Longer, Staker

Emg: Goose, Yeo/Harwood/Polkinghorn, Michael

I like having 2 Ruckman, I think it is one of the better ways to develop Longer. I dont think Black will play much at HFF, but I need to name him somewhere.

Any objections Strikes/BB67th/Ringo?

Black in the guts, and McGrath is probably still deserving of a spot in the team at the moment (not just because of last night). Also I'd have Martin in over Longer at the moment as the third tall and back up ruck, but I know he is still coming back from injury. Besides that the team looks pretty good. We have a very nice back 6.

[nrich102]

Bewick still not in the team ??? What is Vossy thinking?

[BB67th]

He seems to think Hanley and Rockliff are better forwards ::)

[strikes91]

sat here today and just watched our talent fly out the window with poor coaching

i'm sure everyone knows and is over hearing it but Pearce Hanley has to play permanently off half back. if this means dropping some players so be it. tom rockliff needs to go in the guts. find room for him. I would love this team to be named come thursday night merrett pending

Adcock - Merrett/Goose - Clarke
Golby  - Patful - Hanley
Redden - Moloney - Rich
Zorko - Brown - McGrath
Green - Lisle - Staker
Berger - Black - Rockliff

Lester - Yeo - Raines

Mayes