Kruezer Vs Goldstein

smashbox · March 26, 2013, 10:06:26 PM

Which is the better option for the rucks?

Colliwobblers · March 26, 2013, 10:08:00 PM

in SC Goldy, as long as he can cement his spot, which surely he will, currie giving him some curry tho...

the captain · March 26, 2013, 10:17:53 PM

Goldy is a risk given Currie's form, and Brad Scott saying they won't play together though the year, but you would have to say Goldy would probably still have the #1 spot.

GoLions · March 26, 2013, 10:43:52 PM

Definitely Goldy

MontyJnr · March 26, 2013, 11:08:10 PM

Kruezer as much a risk as Goldstein, with Warnock's place in Carlton's team still unclear.

the captain · March 26, 2013, 11:15:42 PM

Quote from: MontyJnr on March 26, 2013, 11:08:10 PM
Kruezer as much a risk as Goldstein, with Warnock's place in Carlton's team still unclear.

Whether Warnock is in the team or not shouldn't affect Kruezer's spot, the fight will be between Warnock and Hampson.

tor01doc · March 26, 2013, 11:17:51 PM

I see Kreuzer more definitely number one at his club than Goldy is.

MontyJnr · March 26, 2013, 11:27:45 PM

Quote from: the captain on March 26, 2013, 11:15:42 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on March 26, 2013, 11:08:10 PM
Kruezer as much a risk as Goldstein, with Warnock's place in Carlton's team still unclear.
Whether Warnock is in the team or not shouldn't affect Kruezer's spot, the fight will be between Warnock and Hampson.

Yeah I'm not saying Kruezer will lose his spot. I'm saying Kruezer will lose a significant amount of ruck time (and points) if Warnock plays because Warnock can't play forward very well. Kruezer isn't that flash up forward either but better than Warnock.

Colliwobblers · March 26, 2013, 11:43:37 PM

warnock should be ruck #1 with kruezer playing fwd nad pinch hitting in the ruck.

but maybe the rule changes don't help warnocks, or any genuine tap ruckmans chances...

incog43 · March 27, 2013, 12:09:46 AM

I dont think they can play Hampson/warnock/kruezer at the same time.

I reckon Warnock misses out and Kruzer becomes number 1.

Waite still to come back, so another mobile tall to come in.

Carlton has to make a call here, they have spent the last 2 years
mucking around, Kruzer is an average forward at best, but has the mobility
and tank to impact areound the ground.

Warnock loses?

Colliwobblers · March 27, 2013, 12:14:51 AM

hampson a better fwd than warnock so i agree warnock loses. but still think warnock is a better ruck than kruze and hampson put together.

still the modern game demands flexability and athleticism which all favours kruze

incog43 · March 27, 2013, 12:17:53 AM

I like warnock as a ruck, but he can offer nothing else really. yup kruzer can kill it around the ground with
his mobility. He went +15 last year, reckon he can average 105 this year, will break out, as long as he
isnt stuck up forward for lenghty periods.

Mick will make a decision, only other factors will be injuries, Hampson/Waite etc.

Reckon Warnock could be elsewhere next year.

quinny88 · March 27, 2013, 02:37:03 AM

Kinda wish I got griffin

Marstar · March 27, 2013, 02:53:11 AM

Quote from: quinny88 on March 27, 2013, 02:37:03 AM
Kinda wish I got griffin

Had Griffin 2011 for an average of 101. While he was great, it was a headache. You just don't if you should sell him because 211 might breakdown the week he comes back (which he did in 2011).

Then i had to buy some1 who was going to kill it for the rest of the season ... and afford him. Which meant 2 trades to free up that extra 30k.

Set and Forget IMO.

batt · March 27, 2013, 09:25:20 AM

Brad Scott has said time and time again the preseason is just for testing out new new setups. They still consider Goldy an All-Australian ruckman and Currie a #1 backup. Daw may get games as a forward but won't get a huge chunk of the rucking time.

Kruez has looked great this pre-season but is unproven and injury prone.