NBA Youth Draft

[gossiboy]

Norris Cole at pick 1 would've been better value than Bynum.

Jay keeps saying he's going to "regain" his spot at number 1 centre, I've got some news for you mate, you can't regain something you never had.

Dwight has averaged more points/rebounds/blocks and had a higher PER every year, a higher rebound % every year, as well as having a higher defensive and offensive rating, more defensive and offensive win shares and a better TS %.

I have never seen a more one-sided comparison in stats.

All that was when Bynum had knees, they don't exist anymore making the pick even worse. Think Jay just forfeited this draft cos he'll only have 4 players on the court.

[KoopKicka]

My turn?


DeMarcus Cousins

[gossiboy]

Norris Cole at pick 1 would've been better value than Bynum.

Jay keeps saying he's going to "regain" his spot at number 1 centre, I've got some news for you mate, you can't regain something you never had.

Dwight has averaged more points/rebounds/blocks and had a higher PER every year, a higher rebound % every year, as well as having a higher defensive and offensive rating, more defensive and offensive win shares and a better TS %.

I have never seen a more one-sided comparison in stats.

All that was when Bynum had knees, they don't exist anymore making the pick even worse. Think Jay just forfeited this draft cos he'll only have 4 players on the court.

Not to mention he has the worst attitude of any NBA player I've ever seen

[Jay]

Good read for you Gossi... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1327935-power-ranking-the-nbas-most-unstoppable-moves/page/2

[gossiboy]

Norris Cole at pick 1 would've been better value than Bynum.

Jay keeps saying he's going to "regain" his spot at number 1 centre, I've got some news for you mate, you can't regain something you never had.

Dwight has averaged more points/rebounds/blocks and had a higher PER every year, a higher rebound % every year, as well as having a higher defensive and offensive rating, more defensive and offensive win shares and a better TS %.

I have never seen a more one-sided comparison in stats.

All that was when Bynum had knees, they don't exist anymore making the pick even worse. Think Jay just forfeited this draft cos he'll only have 4 players on the court.

Ha I'll draw up some comparisions between MJ and Kwame... Bet they are more one-sided than Dwight vs. Bynum

He was the no.1 centre mate... Dwight is an over-sized PF, Bynum is a traditional centre that can score with his back to the basket, something that Dwight is poor at. Ever see Dwight show up in the 4th quarter? Even on his Magic days, he got Lebron syndrome and you barely noticed him.

I remember this game... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZVkKiTOu6Q :'(

The guy has had a 30rebound game, got a triple double and can score 30+ on anybody... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtkZRvumws



Did I mention, he has a ring? 8)

Obviously Kwame's 2 points and 2 rebounds/game are GOAT but he's just superhuman.

He might be short but he's been the player in the league at the centre position for ~5 years. Doesn't matter whether they're a PnR centre or a low post guy the best centre is the guy who puts up the best numbers and has the biggest impact on their team, which has unquestionably been Dwight Howard. Obviously his post moves are elite cos he's a post-up centre. Howard is fine in the clutch, he doesn't step his game up like MJ did but his stats in crunch time are still better than bynum's in similar situations.

You can't take one 30 rebound game and say he's the best because of one game. He can also score 5 points on anyone and make some of the stupidest decisions you'll ever see on a basketball court..

And he was obviously the reason the lakers 'shipped in 2010, his 8.6 points and 6.9 rebounds/game in the playoffs obviously mega elite, robbed of finals MVP that year.

[Jay]

Norris Cole at pick 1 would've been better value than Bynum.

Jay keeps saying he's going to "regain" his spot at number 1 centre, I've got some news for you mate, you can't regain something you never had.

Dwight has averaged more points/rebounds/blocks and had a higher PER every year, a higher rebound % every year, as well as having a higher defensive and offensive rating, more defensive and offensive win shares and a better TS %.

I have never seen a more one-sided comparison in stats.

All that was when Bynum had knees, they don't exist anymore making the pick even worse. Think Jay just forfeited this draft cos he'll only have 4 players on the court.

Ha I'll draw up some comparisions between MJ and Kwame... Bet they are more one-sided than Dwight vs. Bynum

He was the no.1 centre mate... Dwight is an over-sized PF, Bynum is a traditional centre that can score with his back to the basket, something that Dwight is poor at. Ever see Dwight show up in the 4th quarter? Even on his Magic days, he got Lebron syndrome and you barely noticed him.

I remember this game... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZVkKiTOu6Q :'(

The guy has had a 30rebound game, got a triple double and can score 30+ on anybody... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtkZRvumws



Did I mention, he has a ring? 8)

Obviously Kwame's 2 points and 2 rebounds/game are GOAT but he's just superhuman.

He might be short but he's been the player in the league at the centre position for ~5 years. Doesn't matter whether they're a PnR centre or a low post guy the best centre is the guy who puts up the best numbers and has the biggest impact on their team, which has unquestionably been Dwight Howard. Obviously his post moves are elite cos he's a post-up centre. Howard is fine in the clutch, he doesn't step his game up like MJ did but his stats in crunch time are still better than bynum's in similar situations.

You can't take one 30 rebound game and say he's the best because of one game. He can also score 5 points on anyone and make some of the stupidest decisions you'll ever see on a basketball court..

And he was obviously the reason the lakers 'shipped in 2010, his 8.6 points and 6.9 rebounds/game in the playoffs obviously mega elite, robbed of finals MVP that year.

Of course I question his consistency and his mindset, but the potential is still there and he has shown he has the talent. At 12 in a dynasty draft was an easy pick given the level I think he can reach in the coming seasons, if this was a 'season' draft would obviously have not taken.

The 30 rebound games and the 42 point game and the double digit block games just show his POTENTIAL and he can do when he wants to - when he is on, no one can stop him.

Just hope he realises what he can achieve when he tries and stop shooting those flowering threes ::)

[gossiboy]

Norris Cole at pick 1 would've been better value than Bynum.

Jay keeps saying he's going to "regain" his spot at number 1 centre, I've got some news for you mate, you can't regain something you never had.

Dwight has averaged more points/rebounds/blocks and had a higher PER every year, a higher rebound % every year, as well as having a higher defensive and offensive rating, more defensive and offensive win shares and a better TS %.

I have never seen a more one-sided comparison in stats.

All that was when Bynum had knees, they don't exist anymore making the pick even worse. Think Jay just forfeited this draft cos he'll only have 4 players on the court.

Ha I'll draw up some comparisions between MJ and Kwame... Bet they are more one-sided than Dwight vs. Bynum

He was the no.1 centre mate... Dwight is an over-sized PF, Bynum is a traditional centre that can score with his back to the basket, something that Dwight is poor at. Ever see Dwight show up in the 4th quarter? Even on his Magic days, he got Lebron syndrome and you barely noticed him.

I remember this game... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZVkKiTOu6Q :'(

The guy has had a 30rebound game, got a triple double and can score 30+ on anybody... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtkZRvumws



Did I mention, he has a ring? 8)

Obviously Kwame's 2 points and 2 rebounds/game are GOAT but he's just superhuman.

He might be short but he's been the player in the league at the centre position for ~5 years. Doesn't matter whether they're a PnR centre or a low post guy the best centre is the guy who puts up the best numbers and has the biggest impact on their team, which has unquestionably been Dwight Howard. Obviously his post moves are elite cos he's a post-up centre. Howard is fine in the clutch, he doesn't step his game up like MJ did but his stats in crunch time are still better than bynum's in similar situations.

You can't take one 30 rebound game and say he's the best because of one game. He can also score 5 points on anyone and make some of the stupidest decisions you'll ever see on a basketball court..

And he was obviously the reason the lakers 'shipped in 2010, his 8.6 points and 6.9 rebounds/game in the playoffs obviously mega elite, robbed of finals MVP that year.

Of course I question his consistency and his mindset, but the potential is still there and he has shown he has the talent. At 12 in a dynasty draft was an easy pick given the level I think he can reach in the coming seasons, if this was a 'season' draft would obviously have not taken.

The 30 rebound games and the 42 point game and the double digit block games just show his POTENTIAL and he can do when he wants to - when he is on, no one can stop him.

Just hope he realises what he can achieve when he tries and stop shooting those flowering threes ::)

There's no doubt the potential's there but just pointing out that Dwight's unquestionably the best centre in the league for the past 5 years, with the exception of this season, Bynum would've slipped a long way in this draft.

[Jay]

Norris Cole at pick 1 would've been better value than Bynum.

Jay keeps saying he's going to "regain" his spot at number 1 centre, I've got some news for you mate, you can't regain something you never had.

Dwight has averaged more points/rebounds/blocks and had a higher PER every year, a higher rebound % every year, as well as having a higher defensive and offensive rating, more defensive and offensive win shares and a better TS %.

I have never seen a more one-sided comparison in stats.

All that was when Bynum had knees, they don't exist anymore making the pick even worse. Think Jay just forfeited this draft cos he'll only have 4 players on the court.

Ha I'll draw up some comparisions between MJ and Kwame... Bet they are more one-sided than Dwight vs. Bynum

He was the no.1 centre mate... Dwight is an over-sized PF, Bynum is a traditional centre that can score with his back to the basket, something that Dwight is poor at. Ever see Dwight show up in the 4th quarter? Even on his Magic days, he got Lebron syndrome and you barely noticed him.

I remember this game... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZVkKiTOu6Q :'(

The guy has had a 30rebound game, got a triple double and can score 30+ on anybody... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtkZRvumws



Did I mention, he has a ring? 8)

Obviously Kwame's 2 points and 2 rebounds/game are GOAT but he's just superhuman.

He might be short but he's been the player in the league at the centre position for ~5 years. Doesn't matter whether they're a PnR centre or a low post guy the best centre is the guy who puts up the best numbers and has the biggest impact on their team, which has unquestionably been Dwight Howard. Obviously his post moves are elite cos he's a post-up centre. Howard is fine in the clutch, he doesn't step his game up like MJ did but his stats in crunch time are still better than bynum's in similar situations.

You can't take one 30 rebound game and say he's the best because of one game. He can also score 5 points on anyone and make some of the stupidest decisions you'll ever see on a basketball court..

And he was obviously the reason the lakers 'shipped in 2010, his 8.6 points and 6.9 rebounds/game in the playoffs obviously mega elite, robbed of finals MVP that year.

Of course I question his consistency and his mindset, but the potential is still there and he has shown he has the talent. At 12 in a dynasty draft was an easy pick given the level I think he can reach in the coming seasons, if this was a 'season' draft would obviously have not taken.

The 30 rebound games and the 42 point game and the double digit block games just show his POTENTIAL and he can do when he wants to - when he is on, no one can stop him.

Just hope he realises what he can achieve when he tries and stop shooting those flowering threes ::)

There's no doubt the potential's there but just pointing out that Dwight's unquestionably the best centre in the league for the past 5 years, with the exception of this season, Bynum would've slipped a long way in this draft.

Could not have seen Bynum lasting until my next pick - only reason he might of is because people might have though it was 24 and under, cutoff being exactly 25...

I mean, he is better than Lawson, George and Monroe

[gossiboy]

Norris Cole at pick 1 would've been better value than Bynum.

Jay keeps saying he's going to "regain" his spot at number 1 centre, I've got some news for you mate, you can't regain something you never had.

Dwight has averaged more points/rebounds/blocks and had a higher PER every year, a higher rebound % every year, as well as having a higher defensive and offensive rating, more defensive and offensive win shares and a better TS %.

I have never seen a more one-sided comparison in stats.

All that was when Bynum had knees, they don't exist anymore making the pick even worse. Think Jay just forfeited this draft cos he'll only have 4 players on the court.

Ha I'll draw up some comparisions between MJ and Kwame... Bet they are more one-sided than Dwight vs. Bynum

He was the no.1 centre mate... Dwight is an over-sized PF, Bynum is a traditional centre that can score with his back to the basket, something that Dwight is poor at. Ever see Dwight show up in the 4th quarter? Even on his Magic days, he got Lebron syndrome and you barely noticed him.

I remember this game... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZVkKiTOu6Q :'(

The guy has had a 30rebound game, got a triple double and can score 30+ on anybody... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtkZRvumws



Did I mention, he has a ring? 8)

Obviously Kwame's 2 points and 2 rebounds/game are GOAT but he's just superhuman.

He might be short but he's been the player in the league at the centre position for ~5 years. Doesn't matter whether they're a PnR centre or a low post guy the best centre is the guy who puts up the best numbers and has the biggest impact on their team, which has unquestionably been Dwight Howard. Obviously his post moves are elite cos he's a post-up centre. Howard is fine in the clutch, he doesn't step his game up like MJ did but his stats in crunch time are still better than bynum's in similar situations.

You can't take one 30 rebound game and say he's the best because of one game. He can also score 5 points on anyone and make some of the stupidest decisions you'll ever see on a basketball court..

And he was obviously the reason the lakers 'shipped in 2010, his 8.6 points and 6.9 rebounds/game in the playoffs obviously mega elite, robbed of finals MVP that year.

Of course I question his consistency and his mindset, but the potential is still there and he has shown he has the talent. At 12 in a dynasty draft was an easy pick given the level I think he can reach in the coming seasons, if this was a 'season' draft would obviously have not taken.

The 30 rebound games and the 42 point game and the double digit block games just show his POTENTIAL and he can do when he wants to - when he is on, no one can stop him.

Just hope he realises what he can achieve when he tries and stop shooting those flowering threes ::)

There's no doubt the potential's there but just pointing out that Dwight's unquestionably the best centre in the league for the past 5 years, with the exception of this season, Bynum would've slipped a long way in this draft.

Could not have seen Bynum lasting until my next pick - only reason he might of is because people might have though it was 24 and under, cutoff being exactly 25...

I mean, he is better than Lawson, George and Monroe

Doubt anyone would've gone near a guy with degenerative knees with their third pick

[Windigo]

I reckon I need a shooting guard, so I pick Eric Gordon. If he can get a decent run with no injuries he has shown that he can be a quality player.  :)

Once he gets out of New Orleans next year he should find his feet. He never wanted to play there in the first place!  :P

[Holz]

I reckon I need a shooting guard, so I pick Eric Gordon. If he can get a decent run with no injuries he has shown that he can be a quality player.  :)

Once he gets out of New Orleans next year he should find his feet. He never wanted to play there in the first place!  :P

nice pick, the kid can play.

wouldnt be a bad idea to stay there, I would stick around davis if i could.

[Windigo]

TBH, I don't think he will. I heard he might got to Detroit. They've got a big center that can go places as well!  :P

Problem with Detroit they have too many flowering guards.  :o

[gossiboy]

Jay there's absolutely nothing to suggest he'll ever be the best centre in the league. You do realise a degenerative knee condition means his knees will never be back to full strength, right? It'd be lucky for him to play 50 games next season.

Didn't get a PM but think it's my pick? Not sure how this guy slipped this far but going to take one of the premier shot blockers in the league, the serge protector.

Great shot blocker, great help defender, great defender in general, awesome athleticism, still has a long way to go to fulfil his potential, also a very good rebounder and surprisingly has one of the best mid-range games in the NBA and he's only 23

Kyrie's a good defender, BLopez is extremely average on D though so Iblocka will be a tremendous help defender for brook. Also a low USG % player which fits in well as both lopez and kyrie do their best work with the ball in their hands.

PG - Kyrie
SG -
SF -
PF - Ibaka
C - BLopez.

Think it's jay up for b2b picks then me again? Not sure...

[Holz]

Jay there's absolutely nothing to suggest he'll ever be the best centre in the league. You do realise a degenerative knee condition means his knees will never be back to full strength, right? It'd be lucky for him to play 50 games next season.

Didn't get a PM but think it's my pick? Not sure how this guy slipped this far but going to take one of the premier shot blockers in the league, the serge protector.

Great shot blocker, great help defender, great defender in general, awesome athleticism, still has a long way to go to fulfil his potential, also a very good rebounder and surprisingly has one of the best mid-range games in the NBA and he's only 23

Kyrie's a good defender, BLopez is extremely average on D though so Iblocka will be a tremendous help defender for brook. Also a low USG % player which fits in well as both lopez and kyrie do their best work with the ball in their hands.

PG - Kyrie
SG -
SF -
PF - Ibaka
C - BLopez.

Think it's jay up for b2b picks then me again? Not sure...

Ibaka is the guy i was considering, was tough between him and davis. Just think davis has the potential to be an absoulte beat on offense and defense. Ibaka one of the best defensive big men in the league. top pick.

bit unfair to have Lopez and Ibaka.

[Jay]

Am I up?