British XV's - ROUND ONE TEAM SUBMISSION THREAD (Friday 22 March - Monday 1 Apri

[ossie85]

Not really a loophole if lockout hasn't happened yet... So pickers will have to name Boyd, knowing he's not playing?

But otherwise you could have just named a Captain you knew wasn't going to play....

My opinion would be Boyd can change, but not the captaincy. Up to Ringo though....

[elephants]

Common sense should prevail here. Chances are Pickers doesn't work for the Bulldogs medical team and therefore he would have no idea about Boyd missing this week until it was announced last night.

Imo, its not a loophole and he should be allowed to change his C.

[SydneyRox]

Not really a loophole if lockout hasn't happened yet... So pickers will have to name Boyd, knowing he's not playing?

But otherwise you could have just named a Captain you knew wasn't going to play....

My opinion would be Boyd can change, but not the captaincy. Up to Ringo though....

If everyone thought Boyd was playing then I think it is fair to say there was no rule bending. Since the lockout has not occurred for the Bulldogs at worst he should be able to replace Boyd on the field and have his VC score count?

[ossie85]

^ SydneyRox I agree with, his VC should be his Captain, and he should replace Boyd.

That's the common sense approach IMO

[Justin Bieber]

So Boyd is captaining the side from the grand stand? I thought we try to make it realistic

[ossie85]

So Boyd is captaining the side from the grand stand? I thought we try to make it realistic

Every fantasy competition has the VC playing when the C doesn't play! So by that logic yes he is captaining from the grand stand - the same as when EVERY OTHER captain pulls out of the named team and the VC has to play.

Presumably the Vice Captain was named because he was the 2nd best for the job. So what's the issue if he Captains?

[Justin Bieber]

What if pickers VC is injured/not named

[ossie85]

What if pickers VC is injured/not named

The same thing that happens with everyone when the captain and vice-captain are injured.....

[ossie85]

Or maybe the VC is Captain, and he can choose another VC?

[kilbluff1985]

i think he should be able to change it

i don't see how it's different from changing another player captain or not

[SydneyRox]

Does this league have a rolling lockout normally through the season?

After rereading the rules the answer is no.

Therefore if the same thing was to happen in round 3 to someone else, they are not going to get any allowances if their captain goes down Saturday morning? Except for the VC score to be used and an emergency comes into the team.

This round should be different as it is split over two weekends, but we need to be careful not to set a precedent that someone else may not be allowed to take advantage of during the season

[Nails]

It is slightly confusing though as we were told only the players from Friday/Saturday last week were locked and therefore the other players were technically named for showers and giggles with the ability to wipe the lot and re-name the lot this week. Yes, it'd be different if it was any other week. But it's not, we had it so we could name others coming into the next week.

What should be done? I don't know. But it was designed so we COULD change every player named from our 2nd week lot of players.

So it makes it confusing :(

[Ringo]

Been out for the morning and just read the thread so will clarify:

This may sound harsh guys but similar to any fantasy competition if the Captain does not play then the VC score is taken.

It was my intention not to create the Captains loop hole for the British xv's and have already advised Sid that he can not bench his Captain to take Watsons 171 as VC.  If a captain is changed, in my opinion, it can be argued that this in breach of rules with Captain being changed after lockout hence my decision.

In this instance however I will allow naming an alternate VC to cover the possibility that Captain and VC do not play. Pickers when updating team please also add alternate VC. 

To cover this remote possibility of both Captain and Vice Captain not playing occurring in the future, when lodging teams for Round 2 onwards you are required to nominate Captain, Vice Captain and Alternate Vice Captain. Score of Alternate Vice Captain will be doubled should Captain and Vice Captain not play.

This rolling lock out unfortunately was a week apart and you can change players as has rightfully been pointed out but not Captain.

Rolling lockouts for this competition will occur again in Rounds 5 and 14 with Partial Lockout on Thursday Night and Full lock out on the Friday Night.  So these rolling lockouts will not be as long as Round 1. 

[kilbluff1985]

'Geelong's Steve Johnson has undergone surgery on his left knee, He'll miss the start of the season on top of his Round 1 suspension, no time frame set for when he'll return.' :-X

[BB67th]

Looks like Stevie will be out for around 6 weeks.