3 midpriced forwards

Started by joshua98, March 15, 2013, 11:53:48 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

joshua98

What do you guys think of running 3 mid pricers in the forward line.

Rockliff, Walker, Martin, Varcoe, Karnezis, Byrnes

timtim

I'm doing it... in fact I'm probably closer to 4 mid-pricers

I've got - Rockcliff, Tomahawke, Broughton, Lecras, Varcoe, Karnezis (McCaffer and Rowe)

Ricochet

I did have but then had to pull Leuey out and it completely ruined my structure.
Can't see anything wrong with 3 though

Perthwildcat

Big risk, but could be big reward

For me 5 primos and one mid

Mykonos FC

I don't like it because Varcoe/Byrnes (probably not Karnezis on his good form) wont make enough money to really be a worth while pick (as a cash cow) but wont really score enough points to be anywhere near a keeper.

Varcoe will avg 70, Byrnes 65 and Karnezis maybe 80?

I wouldn't pick all 3 because you'll be leaking points.
I'd prefer to downgrade a mid premium to a rookie (that is where all the good rookies are at) and upgrade Byrnes and Varcoe to forward guns.

Just my take on it  :P

Marstar

3 Mid-Pricers up front for me.

colmullet

yeah im running JJK, Karnezis and Byrnes at the moment....no real forward rookies and these guys should all make some decent cash

quinny88

Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
I don't like it because Varcoe/Byrnes (probably not Karnezis on his good form) wont make enough money to really be a worth while pick (as a cash cow) but wont really score enough points to be anywhere near a keeper.

Varcoe will avg 70, Byrnes 65 and Karnezis maybe 80?

I wouldn't pick all 3 because you'll be leaking points.
I'd prefer to downgrade a mid premium to a rookie (that is where all the good rookies are at) and upgrade Byrnes and Varcoe to forward guns.

Just my take on it  :P

Byrnes will average a lot more than 65

Mykonos FC

Quote from: quinny88 on March 15, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
I don't like it because Varcoe/Byrnes (probably not Karnezis on his good form) wont make enough money to really be a worth while pick (as a cash cow) but wont really score enough points to be anywhere near a keeper.

Varcoe will avg 70, Byrnes 65 and Karnezis maybe 80?

I wouldn't pick all 3 because you'll be leaking points.
I'd prefer to downgrade a mid premium to a rookie (that is where all the good rookies are at) and upgrade Byrnes and Varcoe to forward guns.

Just my take on it  :P

Byrnes will average a lot more than 65

Define lot?
I honestly think our expectations of him are a bit inflated.
He hasn't looked too crash hot in the NAB Cup, gives away a lot of free kicks and is in a team that will score between 10 and 12 goals per game, I can't see him kicking too many and any thought of midfield time is total rubbish.
Averaged what, 80, in his prime at Geelong? Can't see him averaging above 70 in a bad offence team like Melbourne.

quinny88

Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 15, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
I don't like it because Varcoe/Byrnes (probably not Karnezis on his good form) wont make enough money to really be a worth while pick (as a cash cow) but wont really score enough points to be anywhere near a keeper.

Varcoe will avg 70, Byrnes 65 and Karnezis maybe 80?

I wouldn't pick all 3 because you'll be leaking points.
I'd prefer to downgrade a mid premium to a rookie (that is where all the good rookies are at) and upgrade Byrnes and Varcoe to forward guns.

Just my take on it  :P

Byrnes will average a lot more than 65

Define lot?
I honestly think our expectations of him are a bit inflated.
He hasn't looked too crash hot in the NAB Cup, gives away a lot of free kicks and is in a team that will score between 10 and 12 goals per game, I can't see him kicking too many and any thought of midfield time is total rubbish.
Averaged what, 80, in his prime at Geelong? Can't see him averaging above 70 in a bad offence team like Melbourne.

Barely got a chance at Geelong though. The 2 years he did play close to full seasons at Geelong he averaged 84 and 78 and thats without the midfield time he will get at Melbourne and he wont have a long list of guns to share the points with. I think he will average up around 80

colmullet

to be if he averaged 75ish he will still rise ~150K which isn't a bad result

Ricochet

Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 15, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
I don't like it because Varcoe/Byrnes (probably not Karnezis on his good form) wont make enough money to really be a worth while pick (as a cash cow) but wont really score enough points to be anywhere near a keeper.

Varcoe will avg 70, Byrnes 65 and Karnezis maybe 80?

I wouldn't pick all 3 because you'll be leaking points.
I'd prefer to downgrade a mid premium to a rookie (that is where all the good rookies are at) and upgrade Byrnes and Varcoe to forward guns.

Just my take on it  :P

Byrnes will average a lot more than 65

Define lot?
I honestly think our expectations of him are a bit inflated.
He hasn't looked too crash hot in the NAB Cup, gives away a lot of free kicks and is in a team that will score between 10 and 12 goals per game, I can't see him kicking too many and any thought of midfield time is total rubbish.
Averaged what, 80, in his prime at Geelong? Can't see him averaging above 70 in a bad offence team like Melbourne.
Even at a 70 average he will make you decent coin. Same goes for Varcoe. Who will you play instead of them?? There are literally zero quality rookie fwds. Plus they have greater JS than any decent rookies.

Mykonos FC

Quote from: Ricochet on March 15, 2013, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 15, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
I don't like it because Varcoe/Byrnes (probably not Karnezis on his good form) wont make enough money to really be a worth while pick (as a cash cow) but wont really score enough points to be anywhere near a keeper.

Varcoe will avg 70, Byrnes 65 and Karnezis maybe 80?

I wouldn't pick all 3 because you'll be leaking points.
I'd prefer to downgrade a mid premium to a rookie (that is where all the good rookies are at) and upgrade Byrnes and Varcoe to forward guns.

Just my take on it  :P

Byrnes will average a lot more than 65

Define lot?
I honestly think our expectations of him are a bit inflated.
He hasn't looked too crash hot in the NAB Cup, gives away a lot of free kicks and is in a team that will score between 10 and 12 goals per game, I can't see him kicking too many and any thought of midfield time is total rubbish.
Averaged what, 80, in his prime at Geelong? Can't see him averaging above 70 in a bad offence team like Melbourne.
Even at a 70 average he will make you decent coin. Same goes for Varcoe. Who will you play instead of them?? There are literally zero quality rookie fwds. Plus they have greater JS than any decent rookies.

I'd rather get 5 forward premiums and one of Varcoe/Karnezis/Byrnes/JJK
Out of that list I'd put Byrnes last purely because he wont play midfield (he is a goal sneak, it is what he is best at and Melbourne have a lot of players more likely to play mids) and that the team he is now, the forward line wont be as busy as it was when he was at Geelong when he did average 80.

Ricochet

Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 06:23:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 15, 2013, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 15, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
I don't like it because Varcoe/Byrnes (probably not Karnezis on his good form) wont make enough money to really be a worth while pick (as a cash cow) but wont really score enough points to be anywhere near a keeper.

Varcoe will avg 70, Byrnes 65 and Karnezis maybe 80?

I wouldn't pick all 3 because you'll be leaking points.
I'd prefer to downgrade a mid premium to a rookie (that is where all the good rookies are at) and upgrade Byrnes and Varcoe to forward guns.

Just my take on it  :P

Byrnes will average a lot more than 65

Define lot?
I honestly think our expectations of him are a bit inflated.
He hasn't looked too crash hot in the NAB Cup, gives away a lot of free kicks and is in a team that will score between 10 and 12 goals per game, I can't see him kicking too many and any thought of midfield time is total rubbish.
Averaged what, 80, in his prime at Geelong? Can't see him averaging above 70 in a bad offence team like Melbourne.
Even at a 70 average he will make you decent coin. Same goes for Varcoe. Who will you play instead of them?? There are literally zero quality rookie fwds. Plus they have greater JS than any decent rookies.

I'd rather get 5 forward premiums and one of Varcoe/Karnezis/Byrnes/JJK
Out of that list I'd put Byrnes last purely because he wont play midfield (he is a goal sneak, it is what he is best at and Melbourne have a lot of players more likely to play mids) and that the team he is now, the forward line wont be as busy as it was when he was at Geelong when he did average 80.
Even though they are Melbourne, in the first 7 rounds they do play Port, Suns, GWS and Brissie. That should give him a decent price rise and can trade out in round 9-10

Mykonos FC

Quote from: Ricochet on March 15, 2013, 06:25:45 PM
Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 06:23:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 15, 2013, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 15, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: Mykonos FC on March 15, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
I don't like it because Varcoe/Byrnes (probably not Karnezis on his good form) wont make enough money to really be a worth while pick (as a cash cow) but wont really score enough points to be anywhere near a keeper.

Varcoe will avg 70, Byrnes 65 and Karnezis maybe 80?

I wouldn't pick all 3 because you'll be leaking points.
I'd prefer to downgrade a mid premium to a rookie (that is where all the good rookies are at) and upgrade Byrnes and Varcoe to forward guns.

Just my take on it  :P

Byrnes will average a lot more than 65

Define lot?
I honestly think our expectations of him are a bit inflated.
He hasn't looked too crash hot in the NAB Cup, gives away a lot of free kicks and is in a team that will score between 10 and 12 goals per game, I can't see him kicking too many and any thought of midfield time is total rubbish.
Averaged what, 80, in his prime at Geelong? Can't see him averaging above 70 in a bad offence team like Melbourne.
Even at a 70 average he will make you decent coin. Same goes for Varcoe. Who will you play instead of them?? There are literally zero quality rookie fwds. Plus they have greater JS than any decent rookies.

I'd rather get 5 forward premiums and one of Varcoe/Karnezis/Byrnes/JJK
Out of that list I'd put Byrnes last purely because he wont play midfield (he is a goal sneak, it is what he is best at and Melbourne have a lot of players more likely to play mids) and that the team he is now, the forward line wont be as busy as it was when he was at Geelong when he did average 80.
Even though they are Melbourne, in the first 7 rounds they do play Port, Suns, GWS and Brissie. That should give him a decent price rise and can trade out in round 9-10

That is true and it is a good draw, but looking at him in the NAB Cup, he doesn't look convincing at all and even though JJK is 70k more, his draw is just as nice and in a better team.

Karnezis also has a nice draw and his stats in the reserves last year were very convincing. His JS has sured up a lot and IMO is no longer a vest threat - see last years games where a vest was not involved, not bad.

Varcoe (not really a fan of)

Byrnes does have an easy draw early but in a team that even struggled to beat the lower teams last year he'll still struggle to average 70-75.   Whereas big forwards like JJK (in a good team) and Karnezis (reported mid field time) will justify their 30-70k extra price tag I reckon.