Patrick Karnezis

[northernstar]

I heard this on a podcast today;

"If you don't start with Patrick Karnezis, your an idiot."

I don't want to be an idiot. :P

Don't know much about him other than wikipedia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Karnezis

Thoughts on him?

[morelli89]

He's looked very good in the NAB cup, but it's only the NAB cup so who knows. He's a risk but at his price looks to be a good option along with varcoe, kennedy, byrnes ect...

[quinny88]

He's looked very good in the NAB cup, but it's only the NAB cup so who knows. He's a risk but at his price looks to be a good option along with varcoe, kennedy, byrnes ect...

A big game this Friday will see him make his way into most teams

[bottlemart]

I know some in my league who don't have him, so the less they see of him the better.

Lock him into your team if you haven't already and lets have no more karnezis threads.

[NoButYeah]

I'll be starting with him purely because his last name is fun to say

[batt]

I'll be starting with him purely because his last name is fun to say

A la Zorko last year. 

One can only dream of similar results..

[hannebery2rohan]

Plenty of players have looked good in the NAB Cup and not gone on with it in the season proper. Golby last year?

How many players from the Lions are people expecting big things  from? Hanley, Rockliff, Zorko, Karnezis, Leuenberger... Not all of them will get the big numbers, especially when you throw the likes of Moloney, Adcock, Redden and Rich into the mix as well.

[quinny88]

Plenty of players have looked good in the NAB Cup and not gone on with it in the season proper. Golby last year?

How many players from the Lions are people expecting big things  from? Hanley, Rockliff, Zorko, Karnezis, Leuenberger... Not all of them will get the big numbers, especially when you throw the likes of Moloney, Adcock, Redden and Rich into the mix as well.

Im just worried that this Karnezis love is a bit of a 'copy cat' situation where a couple of people have mentioned his name and it has snowballed to the point where everyone is swearing by him despite never having seen him play. I mean he's sitting in my side at f5 right now ahead of Varcoe and I havent seen any of his games and could walk past him on the street without noticing.
Has he looked that good this nab cup that people think he has as good a job security and scoring potential as guys like Byrnes, Varcoe and JJK?

[quinny88]

Plenty of players have looked good in the NAB Cup and not gone on with it in the season proper. Golby last year?

How many players from the Lions are people expecting big things  from? Hanley, Rockliff, Zorko, Karnezis, Leuenberger... Not all of them will get the big numbers, especially when you throw the likes of Moloney, Adcock, Redden and Rich into the mix as well.

Im just worried that this Karnezis love is a bit of a 'copy cat' situation where a couple of people have mentioned his name and it has snowballed to the point where everyone is swearing by him despite never having seen him play. I mean he's sitting in my side at f5 right now ahead of Varcoe and I havent seen any of his games and could walk past him on the street without noticing.
Has he looked that good this nab cup that people think he has as good a job security and scoring potential as guys like Byrnes, Varcoe and JJK? And his apparent move to the midfield is coming at the expense of who? Rockliff, Redden, Moloney,Black, Rich, Zorko, Hanley and Adcock will all surely spend much more time in there than he will?

[Marstar]

Plenty of players have looked good in the NAB Cup and not gone on with it in the season proper. Golby last year?

How many players from the Lions are people expecting big things  from? Hanley, Rockliff, Zorko, Karnezis, Leuenberger... Not all of them will get the big numbers, especially when you throw the likes of Moloney, Adcock, Redden and Rich into the mix as well.

Well it all depends on how high you believe Brisbane can go in 2013.

Remember that Adelaide last year was coming off 14th on the ladder in 2011.

Those who picked Danger, Sloane, Porp, Tex and/or Jacobs as there midprice/smokies killed it ;)

[hannebery2rohan]

Plenty of players have looked good in the NAB Cup and not gone on with it in the season proper. Golby last year?

How many players from the Lions are people expecting big things  from? Hanley, Rockliff, Zorko, Karnezis, Leuenberger... Not all of them will get the big numbers, especially when you throw the likes of Moloney, Adcock, Redden and Rich into the mix as well.

Im just worried that this Karnezis love is a bit of a 'copy cat' situation where a couple of people have mentioned his name and it has snowballed to the point where everyone is swearing by him despite never having seen him play. I mean he's sitting in my side at f5 right now ahead of Varcoe and I havent seen any of his games and could walk past him on the street without noticing.
Has he looked that good this nab cup that people think he has as good a job security and scoring potential as guys like Byrnes, Varcoe and JJK?

I get that feeling too with Karnezis. He's in my team at the moment on the virtue of having had a decent pre-season and the need to fill F5 and F6 with $200-270k players due to the lack of rookies. I don't remember seeing him play either to be honest.

Plenty of players have looked good in the NAB Cup and not gone on with it in the season proper. Golby last year?

How many players from the Lions are people expecting big things  from? Hanley, Rockliff, Zorko, Karnezis, Leuenberger... Not all of them will get the big numbers, especially when you throw the likes of Moloney, Adcock, Redden and Rich into the mix as well.

Well it all depends on how high you believe Brisbane can go in 2013.

Remember that Adelaide last year was coming off 14th on the ladder in 2011.

Those who picked Danger, Sloane, Porp, Tex and/or Jacobs as there midprice/smokies killed it ;)

You're right. (Well, Porps did ok for a rookie priced player), but it seems like people are expecting big scores from a large field of Lions players, just not all of them will. Zorko might not back up his outstanding first season and Karnezis might not get the scores everyone is expecting due to others taking the points. I guess it's all a bit of perspective. You just don't want to load your team with a lot of these players in the hope it's easy money despite how tempting a lot of them look.

[Marstar]

I think people are being sensible because there is no Cornelius train for virtually the same price as Karnezis (slightly cheaper) and significantly cheaper than JJK who is also KKP.  With a virtual coin-toss between Karn, Varcoe, JJK, Byrnes etc etc ... taking any type of 'form' be it NAB or in-house training rumors seems the prudent thing to do.

Karnezis is ticking all the boxes we expected of Varcoe and if the NAB performances were reversed ... no1 would be questioning a Varcoe train.

BTW what was wrong with Golby scores? I'de be happy with Karnezis getting 72, 53, 81, 103, 61, 59, 64, 90, 78, 112 and then upgrading him. I don't see any fwd rookie getting that average or making that money unfortunataly, so beggars can't be choosers :S

[hannebery2rohan]

The scores aren't bad if you're rookie priced, but i think Golby was around the 300k mark IIRC and i don't think i got much in return (yes i went with him) certainly not enough for a fallen premium anyway.

[mabo]

I agree, I think everyone should stay right away from Karnezis.
No good
Won't play
February warrior

Don't pick him.
;D

[Ringo]

A number of people have asked for my opinion on Karnezis and I have obliged.  I seen Karnezis play in reserves last year and in the intra club trial and games in NAB cup so far and had him pencilled in especially if he runs in mids.  Was hoping to keep him as my smokey selection but that went by the board with his performances. 

He has been named in centre for Friday night so just watch game and see how he goes against Blues.

Karnezis played mids in reserves last year on instruction of coaching staff to increase his endurance.  Seeing the benefit of that this season as he is carrying on reserve grade form where he averaged 28 possessions per game in the NEAFL.