Cloke v Sylvia?

Started by blues boy, February 28, 2013, 11:07:57 PM

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Which one?

Sylvia
Cloke

blues boy

LOTS of debate about these two players about what they will score

Both are about the same price with Sylvia at $393,100 and Cloke is $383,600

Please give me your honest opinion on who is a better starter and why?

Matt_352


Toga

I'd say cloke as well because I know he can improve, and think he will improve on last years effort.

Sylvia while I know he could improve I'm not so sold on him that he will :-X

Cloke: 92     Sylvia: 86

Jukes

Quote from: Jukes on October 09, 2012, 09:45:20 PM
Travis Cloke
Forward
Collingwood
$383,300



2010 Games: 20
2010 Average: 85.2
2010 Big Scores: 162, 108, 108

2011 Games: 22
2011 Average: 95.7
2011 Big Scores: 136, 134, 131

2012 Games: 22
2012 Average: 74.4
2012 Big Scores: 147, 125, 114

Summary: Had a rather rubbish 2012 with ongoing contract speculation and negotiations, has signed on at the pies and, at a tasty price of 383k, looks a great opportunity for an upper-mid-price/lower-premium player. With Quienten Lynch in as number 2 in the Pies forward line, Cloke has somebody to share the tag with rather then Chris Dawes, meaning some of the load will be taken off him allowing him to move further up the ground freely and rack up some more possessions, a major part of his game which was lacking in 2012. Has got good durability having missed 20 games since debuting in 2005 (meaning he has missed just 5.68% of games over his whole career, including his rookie year.

Verdict: A return to form with his future tied up at Collingwood and with other, non-spuddy forwards to share the load, a great pick for a cheaper 4th forward or expensive 5th forward.
Predicted Average: 91-98

NAB Cup scores
vs Western Bulldogs: 5 kicks, 1 handball, 4 marks, 1 tackle, 2 goals. 42DT, 4th on ground, 2nd for Collingwood.
Note: His two goals were the last two of the match that stretched a shaky 1 point lead into a comfortable 13 points victory.
vs Essendon: 5 kicks, 1 handball, 2 marks, 1 goal. 28DT, 7th for Collingwood.
Note: His goal was the last of the match to put Collingwood ahead and win the game, despite being a controversial (aka bullshower) free kick.

Think that puts where I'm at.

Cloke: 91-98
Sylvia: 85-92

blues boy

Quote from: Toga on February 28, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
I'd say cloke as well because I know he can improve, and think he will improve on last years effort.

Sylvia while I know he could improve I'm not so sold on him that he will :-X

Cloke: 92     Sylvia: 86
Quote from: Matt_352 on February 28, 2013, 11:09:42 PM
Cloke 95+

Sylvia 85 - 93

Its tough thats for sure although i have seen a lot of people believe cloke is a 90+ player while sylvia is only mid 80's

blues boy

Quote from: Jukes on February 28, 2013, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 09, 2012, 09:45:20 PM
Travis Cloke
Forward
Collingwood
$383,300



2010 Games: 20
2010 Average: 85.2
2010 Big Scores: 162, 108, 108

2011 Games: 22
2011 Average: 95.7
2011 Big Scores: 136, 134, 131

2012 Games: 22
2012 Average: 74.4
2012 Big Scores: 147, 125, 114

Summary: Had a rather rubbish 2012 with ongoing contract speculation and negotiations, has signed on at the pies and, at a tasty price of 383k, looks a great opportunity for an upper-mid-price/lower-premium player. With Quienten Lynch in as number 2 in the Pies forward line, Cloke has somebody to share the tag with rather then Chris Dawes, meaning some of the load will be taken off him allowing him to move further up the ground freely and rack up some more possessions, a major part of his game which was lacking in 2012. Has got good durability having missed 20 games since debuting in 2005 (meaning he has missed just 5.68% of games over his whole career, including his rookie year.

Verdict: A return to form with his future tied up at Collingwood and with other, non-spuddy forwards to share the load, a great pick for a cheaper 4th forward or expensive 5th forward.
Predicted Average: 91-98

NAB Cup scores
vs Western Bulldogs: 5 kicks, 1 handball, 4 marks, 1 tackle, 2 goals. 42DT, 4th on ground, 2nd for Collingwood.
Note: His two goals were the last two of the match that stretched a shaky 1 point lead into a comfortable 13 points victory.
vs Essendon: 5 kicks, 1 handball, 2 marks, 1 goal. 28DT, 7th for Collingwood.
Note: His goal was the last of the match to put Collingwood ahead and win the game, despite being a controversial (aka bullshower) free kick.

Think that puts where I'm at.

Cloke: 91-98
Sylvia: 85-92

i think you may have just swayed me towards cloke now! cheers jukes

POK252

*Insert asian child saying "why don't we have both"*
No in all seriousness they are currently my F3 and F4 behind cox and rocky

Jukes

Quote from: POK252 on March 01, 2013, 12:11:55 AM
*Insert asian child saying "why don't we have both"*
No in all seriousness they are currently my F3 and F4 behind cox and rocky

WHAT

SHE'S MEXICAN. IT'S A TACO AD.

A taco (pron.: /ˈtɑːkoʊ/, pron.: /ˈtækoʊ/) Nahuatl: tlacopan [t͡ɬa.'ko.pan] is a traditional Mexican dish composed of a corn or wheat tortilla folded or rolled around a filling.

I raged so hard.

Bill Manspeaker

lol Jukesy has feelings for her. new boxxy? :P

blues boy

Quote from: Jukes on March 01, 2013, 12:14:45 AM
Quote from: POK252 on March 01, 2013, 12:11:55 AM
*Insert asian child saying "why don't we have both"*
No in all seriousness they are currently my F3 and F4 behind cox and rocky

WHAT

SHE'S MEXICAN. IT'S A TACO AD.

A taco (pron.: /ˈtɑːkoʊ/, pron.: /ˈtækoʊ/) Nahuatl: tlacopan [t͡ɬa.'ko.pan] is a traditional Mexican dish composed of a corn or wheat tortilla folded or rolled around a filling.

I raged so hard.

LOL asian child the whole ad is filled with Mexican people!

Well looks like Cloke will be my F4 behind Coxy, Rocky and Robbo