Hurley v MWalters v Lewis Jetta

[bowyanger]

Currently got all 3 in my sights...not sure if to really risk it with all of em or just one.

I was gonna do a separate thread on each...maybe just give an opinion on each

[monga77]

Currently got all 3 in my sights...not sure if to really risk it with all of em or just one.

WOW!
Definitely not all 3! Maybe 1 at the most!
At there price, can u really see any of them going on to be premo keepers at the end of the year
I have thought about Hurley as he is due to breakout one day... But fairly risky still.. Especially if his been involved in any of there little antics down at windy hill

[Colliwobblers]

lewis jetta should score the most Hurley will be SC gold once he clicks and does the 2012 Hawkins and become a genuine power key fwd.

but the risk is when exactly will it happen and how much will he score until it does?

Walters and jetta to be honest probably better options for DT but yeah all 3 a risk, but you have to rick it to get the biscuit.  ;)

[SydneyRox]

a brave man, these are some pretty big calls. Jetta should improve again this year, but by a smaller increment than last year. For a little less you could pick another Swan mid/fwd with more upside

[shorty3264]

Gotta go Hurley, only one I'd consider, with the proviso of a strong eye on his pre season. Hurley has been working heavily on his endurance running and potentially off the half back line, if that's the case and he's flying NAB Cup. Get around him!

[theta]

Anyone remember the pics going around of Hurley last pre-season? 

The discussion surrounding them were how much he had 'bulked' up.  I hope its not true.

:-\

[tbagrocks]

Hurley's not a back is he? Can't pick him with potential midfield breakouts available

Jetta has to be a chance, but who the frog is Michael Walters ???

I'm not gain enough on Jetta, Christensen is more a better gamble imo, how can we be sure Jetta is ready to star 22 weeks in our fantasy teams?

[bowyanger]

Hurley's not a back is he? Can't pick him with potential midfield breakouts available

Jetta has to be a chance, but who the frog is Michael Walters ???

I'm not gain enough on Jetta, Christensen is more a better gamble imo, how can we be sure Jetta is ready to star 22 weeks in our fantasy teams?

You should research Walters a bit....maybe thats why he isnt mentioned much...he is over there in the West and came through the WAFL...still young and CAN play the game.

I know theyre all roughies...but you gotta look for this years Dangerpants / JPK equivilent (I had them both last year at round 1...so saved myself 2 trades by having 2 must haves at the start...)

Ive just read some good things about these guys and was getting some feedback.

Ive got many players targeted that no one is mentioning around FF...players that had no post season op's, tearing up preseason., and have been in the system for a few years (exactly what JPK and Dangerpants were this time last year)

[SydneyRox]

While I get what you are saying, These three guys aren't up to the standard of JPK and Danger this time last year.

They all could breakout this year and all will in the next 1-3years, just need the balls to pick em, and hold them, cos it aint gonna happen straight away most likely

[bowyanger]

These three guys aren't up to the standard of JPK and Danger this time last year.

Thats you opinion and your allowed that, but what do you base that opinion on??

Im dont necessarily disagree with you, this is a forum thread to discuss these 3 players.

Dont be shy....

[RobsOverAchieverss]

Get on hurley he has that extra something , like alot of essendon players....

[SydneyRox]

These three guys aren't up to the standard of JPK and Danger this time last year.

Thats you opinion and your allowed that, but what do you base that opinion on??

Im dont necessarily disagree with you, this is a forum thread to discuss these 3 players.

Dont be shy....

Stats -

2011 JPK - 22Games - 87DT - 96SC
2011 Danger - 22Games 71DT - 80SC

Both players firmly in the team best 22 and pushing to be the best player at the club
Arguably achieved that position in 2012

Vs

2012 Jetta - 22Games - 76DT - 79SC
2012 Hurley - 16Games - 65DT - 73SC
2012 Walters - 8Games - 64DT - 76SC

Jetta has cemented his place in the best 22, almost made AA last year. Problem is he is an outside player that doesnt often get his own ball.
Hurley has been hurt because Essendon dont know if he is a fwd or back
Walters played 10 games all up last year and is probably in the best 22 but that is not guaranteed
None of these guys will be considered the best player at their clubs at the end of 2013

Some big differences between the class of these players a year apart, both JPK and Danger were talked up earlyl 2012 as Brownlow chances, you would get 500+ to 1 on any of these 3 to win a Brownlow in 2013.


Edit - As I said they are still three pretty good picks for breakout, but they dont stack up as well as others

[Colliwobblers]

Hurley's not a back is he? Can't pick him with potential midfield breakouts available

Jetta has to be a chance, but who the frog is Michael Walters ???

I'm not gain enough on Jetta, Christensen is more a better gamble imo, how can we be sure Jetta is ready to star 22 weeks in our fantasy teams?

You should research Walters a bit....maybe thats why he isnt mentioned much...he is over there in the West and came through the WAFL...still young and CAN play the game.

I know theyre all roughies...but you gotta look for this years Dangerpants / JPK equivilent (I had them both last year at round 1...so saved myself 2 trades by having 2 must haves at the start...)

Ive just read some good things about these guys and was getting some feedback.

Ive got many players targeted that no one is mentioning around FF...players that had no post season op's, tearing up preseason., and have been in the system for a few years (exactly what JPK and Dangerpants were this time last year)

i reckon walters will be the clancee pearce of 2013 not the paddy dangerfield, so tend to agree with both of you. He will get better but may not really break out if he does until 14/15. who knows tho...

people were on dangerfield a year and even 2 years early, but in general everyone knew last year was coming for him sooner or later. its a matter of getting on at the right time, maybe a year early for walters but i think he will improve again in 2013

[bowyanger]

These three guys aren't up to the standard of JPK and Danger this time last year.

Thats you opinion and your allowed that, but what do you base that opinion on??

Im dont necessarily disagree with you, this is a forum thread to discuss these 3 players.

Dont be shy....

Stats -

2011 JPK - 22Games - 87DT - 96SC
2011 Danger - 22Games 71DT - 80SC

Both players firmly in the team best 22 and pushing to be the best player at the club
Arguably achieved that position in 2012

Vs

2012 Jetta - 22Games - 76DT - 79SC
2012 Hurley - 16Games - 65DT - 73SC
2012 Walters - 8Games - 64DT - 76SC

Jetta has cemented his place in the best 22, almost made AA last year. Problem is he is an outside player that doesnt often get his own ball.
Hurley has been hurt because Essendon dont know if he is a fwd or back
Walters played 10 games all up last year and is probably in the best 22 but that is not guaranteed
None of these guys will be considered the best player at their clubs at the end of 2013

Some big differences between the class of these players a year apart, both JPK and Danger were talked up earlyl 2012 as Brownlow chances, you would get 500+ to 1 on any of these 3 to win a Brownlow in 2013.


Edit - As I said they are still three pretty good picks for breakout, but they dont stack up as well as others

Ok..provides substance to your arguement....things you consider to be important in determining a players potential

Greatly appreciated

Remember this is a discussion and I value your contribution, please dont be offended by my reply

These three guys aren't up to the standard of JPK and Danger this time last year. The way I remember it was that people of FF were onto Danger, only after his name started to get thrown around more and more, and people were alerted to him, it snowballed from there.. I dont think any1 thought he would go on to have the season he did... but I was actually ridiculed for posting teams with JPK before the season started. Hardly anyone was into him. How many teams was Beams and Maric in before RD 1 2012?
Jetta has cemented his place in the best 22, almost made AA last year. Problem is he is an outside player that doesnt often get his own ball. Probably a very good point the more I think about it. However MMurphy and Ablett are seagulls  and hardly ever end up on the bottom of a pack, the coach wants the ball in these guys hands because of vision, skill and their footy smarts. They hang out the back for that handball. Being outside also generally means more goals.
Hurley has been hurt because Essendon dont know if he is a fwd or back And this is his 1st uninterupted pre season in a while, will Essendon keep him up forward? It has been another year with Hird and Thompson at the helm, he is learning from the very best player and coach. Hurley has been labelled with superstar status in the media since he was drafted.
Walters played 10 games all up last year and is probably in the best 22 but that is not guaranteed. Not from what I read, is being primed as one of those mids that will fly under the radar with other players getting the oppositions focus. Lyon is a master coach (bit of a knob though), Freo will improve, so in turn will their players fantasy scores. Look what has happened to Joey and NDS scoring since Lyon left. Another year with Lyon at the helm, things are much more settled now.
None of these guys will be considered the best player at their clubs at the end of 2013. Your opinion and no one will know, thats football...anything can happen, I just prefer to be optimistic than this negative approach. I think the points I raise outweigh your argument for the negative..Hurley easily can, Jetta nearly made AA last year and Walters could be the Beams of 2012
Some big differences between the class of these players a year apart, both JPK and Danger were talked up earlyl 2012 as Brownlow chances. I do live in QLD where footy news is hard to come by...but I did read the HUN every day and bought Inside Football every week before the season started. I must have missed this stuff

[Ziplock]

beams was injured pre-season though to be fair (hence his shower early start), besides he was hardly cheap :P