Marc.M vs Josh.P.K

[Capper]

Thats fine Pope, or Mr Pope sir, but i will be picking Jack over JPK

[tor01doc]

That'd be Mr HipPOPE to you tabs!  :P

[Capper]

or simply your majesty

[tbagrocks]

JPK 2012

Ranked first for clearances and contested possessions, second in hard-ball gets and equal fourth for centre clearances,

If thats not a SC player Tabs then i am the Pope

Just curious, how do you rank first in contested possessions and second in hard ball gets :o

Isn't that the same thing?

[SydneyRox]

JPK 2012

Ranked first for clearances and contested possessions, second in hard-ball gets and equal fourth for centre clearances,

If thats not a SC player Tabs then i am the Pope

Just curious, how do you rank first in contested possessions and second in hard ball gets :o

Isn't that the same thing?

Thinking out load. But a contested mark, wouldnt be classed as a hard ball get maybe?

[Ricochet]

JPK 2012

Ranked first for clearances and contested possessions, second in hard-ball gets and equal fourth for centre clearances,

If thats not a SC player Tabs then i am the Pope

Just curious, how do you rank first in contested possessions and second in hard ball gets :o

Isn't that the same thing?

Thinking out load. But a contested mark, wouldnt be classed as a hard ball get maybe?

yeh and maybe receiving a handball until pressure might be considered contested but obviously not a hard ball get?

[tbagrocks]

JPK 2012

Ranked first for clearances and contested possessions, second in hard-ball gets and equal fourth for centre clearances,

If thats not a SC player Tabs then i am the Pope

Just curious, how do you rank first in contested possessions and second in hard ball gets :o

Isn't that the same thing?

Thinking out load. But a contested mark, wouldnt be classed as a hard ball get maybe?

Right that makes sence

but for this reason JPK is still a 120 midfielder and so is the Dangerman ;D

How is Jack going to up his ave and compete with the 120 guys? Side note I think Sloane could go 115 watch for a rise in fittness and a bigger midfield output after the bye than last year when he fatueged and player half forward after that

[Capper]

JPK 2012

Ranked first for clearances and contested possessions, second in hard-ball gets and equal fourth for centre clearances,

If thats not a SC player Tabs then i am the Pope

Just curious, how do you rank first in contested possessions and second in hard ball gets :o

Isn't that the same thing?

Thinking out load. But a contested mark, wouldnt be classed as a hard ball get maybe?

Right that makes sence

but for this reason JPK is still a 120 midfielder and so is the Dangerman ;D

How is Jack going to up his ave and compete with the 120 guys? Side note I think Sloane could go 115 watch for a rise in fittness and a bigger midfield output after the bye than last year when he fatueged and player half forward after that

gotta love the wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_Australian_rules_football#C

Contested possession
a possession achieved as a result of winning a contest.

Hard ball get
see contested possession.

[upthemaidens]

Sure he scored well last year in SC but in previous years he was a much better DT player than SC player.

Dont pick Jack, leave him for me  ;D

Not sure the numbers agree with you on JPK..
           DT     SC
2010- 73.7     81
2011- 86.5     96
2012- 101.5   119.6

Theres no indication of a better DT scoring in relation to SC scoring...

[Capper]

Sure he scored well last year in SC but in previous years he was a much better DT player than SC player.

Dont pick Jack, leave him for me  ;D

Not sure the numbers agree with you on JPK..
           DT     SC
2010- 73.7     81
2011- 86.5     96
2012- 101.5   119.6

Theres no indication of a better DT scoring in relation to SC scoring...

This surprised me a little when i re-read my research
JPK
Jack
ROK

JPK has gradually got better over the last 3 years (which is a given) after struggling to lose the tag in '10 and '11. I would now definitely say get JPK over ROK in DT and SC but would still go with Jack over JPK in SC even though JPK has a better average. JPK is more likely to be free of a tagging or minding role like Jack (whcih would help JPK's DT stats) but Jack's hardness at the ball is hard to go past for me