Ask Ziplock Pre-season

[Ziplock]

It's a decent strategy, you'll start way behind everyone else and will probably be ranked around 30k... but you'll come home with a bang when you start upgrading those mid rooks and will probably finish with a stronger side.

did... you not read my post detailing why this won't happen?

[Ziplock]

Thoughts on Watts, C. Beams and C. Smith?

I like watts- in a HB role I see him averaging 85-90+. Probably not worthwhile as a forward, but to start as a defender, sure.

Smith averaged about 75 unsubbed... I think he'll still probably get vested once or twice this season, he was an elite junior ball winner though. He might push 80-85, basically I see him doing what gaff did this year, maybe minus a couple of points.

Beams averaged 76 unsubbed, which is also pretty solid. If he was a forward, with a 10% discount as he probably should have gotten, I would have considered him. As a pure midfielder though, pass. Someone like trengove is about 40k more expensive than him, but should easily average 90+... beams is a bit prone to copping tagging roles.

[Ziplock]

Boyd, Beams or Pendles baring in mind that I already have Dane Swan...? :) Which one would prove my best starting M2?

Pendlebury... should have the 3rd highest average behind swan and ablett this year, on top of that he's underpriced.

[Holz]

Cox + Murphy

v

Godly/Mummy + Boyd

[Ricochet]

Goddard, grimes, heppell, Hanley, hartlett, Gibbs- terlich, Stevenson ,

Beams, pendalbury, redden, crouch, omeara, t.Mitchell , k.mitchell, towers â€" viney , hvorat

Goldstein, leunberger- currie, Osborn

Franklin, Rockliff , wright, Martin , broughton, Sylvia â€" lee , neade

Can ya help me out. I have 2 k left over didn't like any forward or def rookies much so stacked both those lines.

Yeah, I've done something similar with my team, I had no confidence in forward rookies, so I have a very similar structure.

I'm not a fan of wright, honestly I cant see him improving much, and see it as far more likely he'll go backwards- he's just too small bodied to pull large amounts of midfield time, and he's not a good enough goal kicker to compensate. That being said, I've been wrong before, otherwise I'd be driving around in a 2012 toyota :P

I'm also not a fan of beams as a dt prospective this year- young players usually have an off year post-break out, he'll probably be copping significantly more attention this year as well- swan and pendles are pretty hard to successfully tag, so teams may try to limit beams input. On top of that, ball coming in could push him a little more forward than last year... basically, too many variables- honestly I'd prefer ablett/ swan (which you obviously can't afford unfortunately), but in that price range, I'd pick boyd over beams- at least you know what you'll get.

I think your bench might need some work, that being said, we've only had one round of NAB, so it's a bit early to judge.

What are your thoughts when its a second breakout Zip?
I would've called 2011 his first breakout when he hit 120 in the last half of the season after injury affected first half

[Ziplock]

Cox + Murphy

v

Godly/Mummy + Boyd

Cox + Murphy.

I see cox as the no.1 ruck this year by far, and murphy should be up with a 110+ average. Boyd will be a premium too, but mumford/ goldstein are far less certain.

[Ziplock]

Goddard, grimes, heppell, Hanley, hartlett, Gibbs- terlich, Stevenson ,

Beams, pendalbury, redden, crouch, omeara, t.Mitchell , k.mitchell, towers â€" viney , hvorat

Goldstein, leunberger- currie, Osborn

Franklin, Rockliff , wright, Martin , broughton, Sylvia â€" lee , neade

Can ya help me out. I have 2 k left over didn't like any forward or def rookies much so stacked both those lines.

Yeah, I've done something similar with my team, I had no confidence in forward rookies, so I have a very similar structure.

I'm not a fan of wright, honestly I cant see him improving much, and see it as far more likely he'll go backwards- he's just too small bodied to pull large amounts of midfield time, and he's not a good enough goal kicker to compensate. That being said, I've been wrong before, otherwise I'd be driving around in a 2012 toyota :P

I'm also not a fan of beams as a dt prospective this year- young players usually have an off year post-break out, he'll probably be copping significantly more attention this year as well- swan and pendles are pretty hard to successfully tag, so teams may try to limit beams input. On top of that, ball coming in could push him a little more forward than last year... basically, too many variables- honestly I'd prefer ablett/ swan (which you obviously can't afford unfortunately), but in that price range, I'd pick boyd over beams- at least you know what you'll get.

I think your bench might need some work, that being said, we've only had one round of NAB, so it's a bit early to judge.

What are your thoughts when its a second breakout Zip?
I would've called 2011 his first breakout when he hit 120 in the last half of the season after injury affected first half

I call break outs basically premium scores- beams only played half a season, so what you mean is that he averaged 120 in 1/4 of a season, and that wasn't exactly against quality opposition. On top of that a 100 average isn't a premium average- look at sam mitchells past history.

[Ricochet]

Goddard, grimes, heppell, Hanley, hartlett, Gibbs- terlich, Stevenson ,

Beams, pendalbury, redden, crouch, omeara, t.Mitchell , k.mitchell, towers â€" viney , hvorat

Goldstein, leunberger- currie, Osborn

Franklin, Rockliff , wright, Martin , broughton, Sylvia â€" lee , neade

Can ya help me out. I have 2 k left over didn't like any forward or def rookies much so stacked both those lines.

Yeah, I've done something similar with my team, I had no confidence in forward rookies, so I have a very similar structure.

I'm not a fan of wright, honestly I cant see him improving much, and see it as far more likely he'll go backwards- he's just too small bodied to pull large amounts of midfield time, and he's not a good enough goal kicker to compensate. That being said, I've been wrong before, otherwise I'd be driving around in a 2012 toyota :P

I'm also not a fan of beams as a dt prospective this year- young players usually have an off year post-break out, he'll probably be copping significantly more attention this year as well- swan and pendles are pretty hard to successfully tag, so teams may try to limit beams input. On top of that, ball coming in could push him a little more forward than last year... basically, too many variables- honestly I'd prefer ablett/ swan (which you obviously can't afford unfortunately), but in that price range, I'd pick boyd over beams- at least you know what you'll get.

I think your bench might need some work, that being said, we've only had one round of NAB, so it's a bit early to judge.

What are your thoughts when its a second breakout Zip?
I would've called 2011 his first breakout when he hit 120 in the last half of the season after injury affected first half

I call break outs basically premium scores- beams only played half a season, so what you mean is that he averaged 120 in 1/4 of a season, and that wasn't exactly against quality opposition. On top of that a 100 average isn't a premium average- look at sam mitchells past history.

Well yeh 7-8 games and it included Gee, Freo, Saints, Esendon. All I'm saying is he showed us he was a premium player in 2011, so does this change you mind about whether he will drop his average in 2013.

[Ziplock]

STK 6th, essendon 8th, fremantle 11th

geelong was the only really strong team in the lot. Then he also played brisbane and port, fact is it's not really a large enough sample size... Greg broughton had like a 7 game 100+ average streak as well in 2011 :P

[essendon2]

It's a decent strategy, you'll start way behind everyone else and will probably be ranked around 30k... but you'll come home with a bang when you start upgrading those mid rooks and will probably finish with a stronger side.

did... you not read my post detailing why this won't happen?

+1
hhahahaha

[Holz]

It's a decent strategy, you'll start way behind everyone else and will probably be ranked around 30k... but you'll come home with a bang when you start upgrading those mid rooks and will probably finish with a stronger side.

did... you not read my post detailing why this won't happen?

+1
hhahahaha

why do you have the mid rookies scoring soo much. if that actually does happen it will be the best group of rookies by a long long margin.

[essendon2]

It's a decent strategy, you'll start way behind everyone else and will probably be ranked around 30k... but you'll come home with a bang when you start upgrading those mid rooks and will probably finish with a stronger side.

did... you not read my post detailing why this won't happen?

+1
hhahahaha

why do you have the mid rookies scoring soo much. if that actually does happen it will be the best group of rookies by a long long margin.

+1

[Ricochet]

Agree with Holz.
Kane Mitchell 95, Brad Crouch 90, Jaeger O'Meara 85, Dean Kent 80 and Lee at 80 are all a bit of a stretch

[Ricochet]

STK 6th, essendon 8th, fremantle 11th

geelong was the only really strong team in the lot. Then he also played brisbane and port, fact is it's not really a large enough sample size... Greg broughton had like a 7 game 100+ average streak as well in 2011 :P

haha yeh but Beams is not Broughton

[Ziplock]

It's a decent strategy, you'll start way behind everyone else and will probably be ranked around 30k... but you'll come home with a bang when you start upgrading those mid rooks and will probably finish with a stronger side.

did... you not read my post detailing why this won't happen?

+1
hhahahaha

why do you have the mid rookies scoring soo much. if that actually does happen it will be the best group of rookies by a long long margin.

well, look at this year

greene 96
Zorko 95 (fwd)
gibson 91
treloar 82 (fwd 2012)
coniglio 80
adams (fwd 2012) 75
horsley 75
Miles 75 (only 7 games though)
Shiel 74

so... yeah... ?