Smart or Crazy?

Started by nicko11, January 21, 2013, 09:00:07 PM

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nicko11


With the new rules it has shocked me that there hasnt been such a huge change in teams. For one i am the biggest Swan lover ever! but I see no smart way you can start with him when you could start with someone like O'Keefe who will score similar in the first few rounds as he starts with a great fixtrue. I had Swan and 3 rookies, which i changed for O Keefe and upped a rook to Embley. My team now looks like this

Backs: B.Goddard, B.Gibbs, H.Hartlett, G.Broughton, J.Pittard, B.Goodes (L.Stevenson, D.Terlich)

Mids: G.Ablett, S.Pendlebury, K.Jack, R'O Keefe, N.Fyfe, A.Embley, O.Wines, J'O Meara (B.Crouch, J.Viney)

Rucks: T.Goldstein, M.Leunberger (M.Gawn, B.Grundy)

Forward: S.Johnson, D.Zorko, T.Rockliff, D.Martin, C.Knights, J.Stringer (B.Staker, B.Maccaffer)

Now before you say "this should be in rate my dream team section" this is about the stratergy I've adopted. I have taken in Jack and O'Keefe because they both have great records against GWS and Goldcoast and 3 of there first four matches are at home. Im trying to use every advantage i can get, by having money makers and then trade them off to the best, what are your thoughts of this stratergy

Ricochet

When will you bring in Swan? The only problem i have with this strategy is those who don't start with Swan better have saved some cash to get him in ASAP. Because if you don't and your waiting for price rises and falls you will have to wait until after rounds 5-6 for for 2-3 rises/falls. So players like O'keefe and Jack better continue those massive scores right through to until you get Swan in or you'll lose any advantage you gained.
The only other way i see you bringing in Swan after the early rounds is to drop Embley to the best performing rookie and upgrade O'Keefe/Jack to Swan. But that is 2 trades right there, you'd want to pray for an injury free week and no selection surprises.

nicko11

Quote from: Ricochet on January 21, 2013, 09:09:34 PM
When will you bring in Swan? The only problem i have with this strategy is those who don't start with Swan better have saved some cash to get him in ASAP. Because if you don't and your waiting for price rises and falls you will have to wait until after rounds 5-6 for for 2-3 rises/falls. So players like O'keefe and Jack better continue those massive scores right through to until you get Swan in or you'll lose any advantage you gained.
The only other way i see you bringing in Swan after the early rounds is to drop Embley to the best performing rookie and upgrade O'Keefe/Jack to Swan. But that is 2 trades right there, you'd want to pray for an injury free week and no selection surprises.

that was the exact plan, embley to swan in round 5, and jack up to cotchin at his peak. Fixture is very very important next year

stew42

Quote from: nicko11 on January 21, 2013, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 21, 2013, 09:09:34 PM
When will you bring in Swan? The only problem i have with this strategy is those who don't start with Swan better have saved some cash to get him in ASAP. Because if you don't and your waiting for price rises and falls you will have to wait until after rounds 5-6 for for 2-3 rises/falls. So players like O'keefe and Jack better continue those massive scores right through to until you get Swan in or you'll lose any advantage you gained.
The only other way i see you bringing in Swan after the early rounds is to drop Embley to the best performing rookie and upgrade O'Keefe/Jack to Swan. But that is 2 trades right there, you'd want to pray for an injury free week and no selection surprises.

that was the exact plan, embley to swan in round 5, and jack up to cotchin at his peak. Fixture is very very important next year
You'll never be able to go embley to swan in rnd 5...

nicko11


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ronl

Agree, it will take freakish luck to be able to pull that off by round 5 but, hey, it's your team GO FOR IT.

Holz

I dont care who ROK is playing if swan plays to his best ROk wont score anything like him.

fertalong

Mehhh
I'd rather start with swan, and if his price is due to drop a lot then trade him out for someone else that's going to rise in price and bring swan back a few weeks later. Either way, Swan will outscore 95% of players over that 3 round period anyway.

Speculator

I think it is interesting that everyone expects Swan to continue scoring at this extremely high level. Is there no-one who is worried about the inevitable drop off which COULD happen in 2013? I for one don't think he can maintain last year's average and intend to pick him up later. Is this madness?

Adamant

Quote from: Speculator on January 22, 2013, 03:06:30 PM
I think it is interesting that everyone expects Swan to continue scoring at this extremely high level. Is there no-one who is worried about the inevitable drop off which COULD happen in 2013? I for one don't think he can maintain last year's average and intend to pick him up later. Is this madness?

Nobody thought he'd maintain his 2011 average, and he went and increased it by 13 points. :o

But yeah, I think he'll decrease slightly, but he is an absolute lock for me.

Andrew

Planned trades are possibly more risky this year with the 2 trades a week. The best way to use 2 trades a week is firstly to cover the many injuries and suspensions which will probably get even worse than last year (everyone seems to have forgotten this!), and secondly speculative, picking up players who have dropped and rookies that are debuting throughout the season. Set-and-forget players still have their role at the premium level and in the meantime, even if Swan drops his average by 10 points he'll still be in the top 2 scoring midfielders with an average of 123...

owenbond007

swan traditionally starts the season slow. There is no harm in planning on picking him up r5. I actually like the idea of starting okeefe who literally smashed the weaker teams last season and upgrading swanny in before the anzac clash (loves playing the bombers). If you save 40-50k here its a bonus and there is no reason why rok can't match or even better swanny in the opening rounds for score.

Clearly if you have planned this you have the cash set aside/down a rookie early for a bubbled rookie (if there is one).

Ricochet

Quote from: owenbond007 on January 22, 2013, 04:36:48 PM
swan traditionally starts the season slow. There is no harm in planning on picking him up r5. I actually like the idea of starting okeefe who literally smashed the weaker teams last season and upgrading swanny in before the anzac clash (loves playing the bombers). If you save 40-50k here its a bonus and there is no reason why rok can't match or even better swanny in the opening rounds for score.

Clearly if you have planned this you have the cash set aside/down a rookie early for a bubbled rookie (if there is one).
O'keefe starts the season a lot slower than Swan

Holz

Quote from: owenbond007 on January 22, 2013, 04:36:48 PM
swan traditionally starts the season slow. There is no harm in planning on picking him up r5. I actually like the idea of starting okeefe who literally smashed the weaker teams last season and upgrading swanny in before the anzac clash (loves playing the bombers). If you save 40-50k here its a bonus and there is no reason why rok can't match or even better swanny in the opening rounds for score.

Clearly if you have planned this you have the cash set aside/down a rookie early for a bubbled rookie (if there is one).

He started slow last year i dont think there is any evidence he starts slowly generally though

2011: 137 162 116 131 in his first month thats a 136.5 start.


Im a North fan and he will tear us apart round 1. Will be my captain

162 and 148 in his last 2 against us. Im expecting 300 from him round 1.