DT and SC change the rules of fantasy footy

[Capper]

What I may do is run simulations with different teams using 44 trades to work out an estimated cost of points losses to point gains through extra cash through various points in the season. Should give a better understanding of when to try and gain money in the comp

I read somewhere you get 47

you get 2 a week, 22 weeks x 2 trades

[Grazz]

What I may do is run simulations with different teams using 44 trades to work out an estimated cost of points losses to point gains through extra cash through various points in the season. Should give a better understanding of when to try and gain money in the comp

I read somewhere you get 47

That article was if we were allowed to make 3 trades during the byes Lez which we cant in 2013 now the rules are out.

As far as strategys go i think it will be alot like normal as far as rookies go, you still need a decent rookie to replace them with. You'll still lean towards selling off your under performing rookies and keeping those that are performing longer till they are upgradable to prems. Alot of the money will be made with fallen prems on the bubble of a pay rise, your midpricers obviously and researching those players that have 3 or 4 teams coming up where they generally score above avg against these teams. So im thinking each week you'll be checking to see if any of your rookies need to be cut, are on the bubble remembering that after rnd 2 most coaches will have the best rookies in their team so patterns of various strategy's will be similar, those that sell quick and replace etc which i think is a good startegy as most of the rookie upgrades are more common in the 1st half of the season then the rookies start to dry up.

When no rookies are up for trade on a weekend in your team you'll then be researching all players to see who has a pay cut coming in your team, you may choose to cut him for a player who is on the bubble of a large payrise take the money and the following week buy the player you sold back if you want or you'll be looking at every player outside your team who is looking at a payrise to make money. You'll be wanting after atleast rnd 3 to be using those trades as they are a big tool to use so use them but there will be weekends where nothing much appears worth doing as you will want whoever is coming into your team to score on par with what the outed player was to retain your rank, win a league game or keep momentum atleast.

Not every weekend will the moons align and trades are a viable option but early in the season when rookie movements are higher it will most probably pay to be as active as possible because as i said in the second half of the year new rookies tend to drop off so thats when you start looking more towards fallen prems, injury affected players returning, mid pricers and players who have teams coming up they kill it against.

Alot of stuff we do most weeks anyway but we usually had weeks where nothing could be done because we were waiting to make money etc, not anymore, those at the front will be those researching constantly and if there is a viable trade worth doing for money/points gained etc they will be doing it. Players you steered clear of because of injury concerns are no more a concern, Players like Sandi Fyfe Mumford Hartlett and Ball Embley etc are viable options now as if they go down you punt them straightaway. Players you had age concerns with are no longer a concern. Be careful with to many sideways trades for cash etc as you still have a limited amount of time to get yourside full of prems remember, to many sideways trades and filling up could get tight in the second half of the year.

Im expecting alot of points of difference in peoples teams for a big chunk of the season and towards the end sides to get closer to being alike but still carry a few points of difference in players in team line ups due to so many strategys and busy coaches doing their research unearthing those gems for cash inflow or points and upgrading.

Just when you thought the rolling lockout would also be taken up by Dreamteam as they and SC always seem to follow suit with rule changes and this would benefit some and hurt others who wouldnt have the time on weekends to check vested players, late outs etc we get unlimited trades where you work ethic if you want to be a success will be high. Now you need to find time through the week to get some research done, research or perish lol. Your weekly workload has gone through the roof really but atleast we are all on a leveler playing field, its still better than a rolling lockout where some coaches didnt have a choice to do things over a weekend because of work, family etc will have the opportunity to find time of an evening, night, early hours of the morning haha whenever you have a chance to do it you'll need to. In that sense things have gotten harder i feel but its also gotten easier via the unlimited trades, its a oxymoron for sure. :-\

This is what im thinking at the minute about 2013, i think ive thought of most things but im sure the new rules will throw some curve balls at me/us as we get our heads around the new rules and new strategys. Even though its different its the same, we still need to get a full prem team as quick as we possibly can, alot of how we do that will be mirrored on previous tactics and now new strategys also and we will or should be alot more busy researching constantly, there will be a limited number of weeks where coaches will be doing nothing most of them we will be busy busy busy.            I feel like me mate Scrat staring into the mouth of a huge dinasour, "Daunted by the task ahead." :o

[GM]

Great write up Grazz.You are back mate!
So much to take in now really.Lots of potential there to still keep infront of the pack.
If history plays its part well the horses for courses players will be diamonds if we get them right.
Some might say that your initial squad hasnt the importance as previous years as you have 2 trades the next week and every week to fix it.
But for those that nail it,will have that that early buffer that could be the difference.

[Grazz]

Great write up Grazz.You are back mate!
So much to take in now really.Lots of potential there to still keep infront of the pack.
If history plays its part well the horses for courses players will be diamonds if we get them right.
Some might say that your initial squad hasnt the importance as previous years as you have 2 trades the next week and every week to fix it.
But for those that nail it,will have that that early buffer that could be the difference.

Haha cheers mate, its been difficult not to think about DT tbh.  I still feel your starting team is very important. To many risks early could hurt or be huge as far as getting off the mark goes but the unlimited trades give you an oppotunity to get back in it should you not nail it or start atleast pretty well. The players that you pick that spud it up early now gives you an opportunity rather than a set back as you can now use them as a tool to make some cash with a downgrade before rnd 3 etc to someone cheaper doing better without the pain of a burnt trade and give a rookie or two another week to get his money. Weighing up the options of money over points etc is where those that get their strategys right will reap the most rewards.

[jordy04]

AFL Fantasy is better than supercoach.

[Mr.Craig]

+1 to all that Grazz.

I'm not just interested to see how good strategies play out but also how much trouble people find themselves in with failed sideways/cash saving trades. More trades certainly increases the chance of more tears.

[Holz]

+1 to all that Grazz.

I'm not just interested to see how good strategies play out but also how much trouble people find themselves in with failed sideways/cash saving trades. More trades certainly increases the chance of more tears.

I can already see the rage trade threads that are going to happen with people chasing scores.

I bet some people will go crazy and have a forward line of rioli broughton sylvia cloke christenson etc.. and go over the top in risk.

[Grazz]

+1 to all that Grazz.

I'm not just interested to see how good strategies play out but also how much trouble people find themselves in with failed sideways/cash saving trades. More trades certainly increases the chance of more tears.

I can already see the rage trade threads that are going to happen with people chasing scores.

I bet some people will go crazy and have a forward line of rioli broughton sylvia cloke christenson etc.. and go over the top in risk.

We can only hope mate. Chasing scores is thwart with danger.  :P

[j959]

+1 to all that Grazz.

I'm not just interested to see how good strategies play out but also how much trouble people find themselves in with failed sideways/cash saving trades. More trades certainly increases the chance of more tears.

I can already see the rage trade threads that are going to happen with people chasing scores.

I bet some people will go crazy and have a forward line of rioli broughton sylvia cloke christenson etc.. and go over the top in risk.

We can only hope mate. Chasing scores is thwart with danger.  :P

even "noobs" have to learn the lessons/commandments of DT/SC the hard way ...

eg
no sideways trading (unless LTI)
don't chase points (see Brent Guerra rds 8 & 10 2011)
etc, etc ...

[Ziplock]

no issue with sideways now...

[Grazz]

no issue with sideways now...

Yeah no issue with sideways trades now as they've become a useful tool for a gain in cash while maintaining points. My only concern with sideways trades is that you think through them carefully and be as certain as you can of the outcome you are expecting otherwise they can just as easily blow up in your face. I honestly feel you'll need to make sideways trades of all players not just prems in order to gain the maximum advantage of unlimited trades, just make sure you do your homework. Time is a factor now not trades left regarding getting a team full of prems.

Say for example you need 5 more prems and there is 5 weeks left, chances are your going to be a prem short at the end of the 5 weeks as sometimes your going to require three trades to get a certain prem thus taking up another week to get 1 player leaving 3 weeks now to get 4 prems. You'll need to be able to judge exactly how long it will take to get a full prem team the same as it would be if your counting trades to get it, instead your counting how many weeks to get it. As usual the quicker the better and now trades are not an issue the speed in which you prem up will be critical to your rank rather than saving trades so you can maintain it through finals with the General and other issues bobbing up. Hope that makes sense.

[Justin Bieber]

Thanks grazz for clearing that up :)

[Grazz]

Thanks Grazz for clearing that up :)

I am probably stating a lot of the bleeding obvious Lez but i hope it is useful to some. :-\

[GM]

Thanks Grazz for clearing that up :)

I am probably stating a lot of the bleeding obvious Lez but i hope it is useful to some. :-\

Do you think he is having a crack, Grazz.
He might start with Boydy now ;D

[Grazz]

Thanks Grazz for clearing that up :)

I am probably stating a lot of the bleeding obvious Lez but i hope it is useful to some. :-\

Do you think he is having a crack, Grazz.
He might start with Boydy now ;D

Hard to tell with Lez mate, i dont think so, but regardless im just hoping to be of some help to us in getting our heads around what has essentially become a new game regarding strategies etc. Im hungry to hear from other members and their thoughts on the game now the rules have changed. More brains the better.  :)