Pick your 16 Australian players for the 2013 Ashes Tour

Started by Capper, December 29, 2012, 08:44:38 PM

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Quote from: TheAnt on January 31, 2013, 04:31:11 PM
Hilfenhaus is a swing bowler, Jackson Bird just hits the seam on a good length day in day out, he'll probably be the most effective of the quicks if there's no seam movement.
Hilfy coulnt swing the kookaburra though this season so he was always going to miss. Although he would have been great for the Ashes

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Tominator

no Stephen O'Keefe, wtf....

Glad to see Usman got a spot but I think they will bat Wade at 6 and an all-rounder at 7. I like Henriques though. But if Watson bats at 4 then Usman won't play

JBs-Hawks

Definately the weakest squad iv seen in my lifetime.

3 test quality batsmen. ( Clarke, Hughes and Warner)

BB67th

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 31, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
Definately the weakest squad iv seen in my lifetime.

3 test quality batsmen. ( Clarke, Hughes and Warner)
Sadly I have to agree with you here, our batting stocks are woeful at the moment, let alone the good ones not even being selected! I mean Smith as a batsman......

And where is SOK? Doherty has taken 2 Shield wickets this season at something like 80 a piece. O'Keefe just took an 8-fer in his last Shield game and has half the career average of Doherty! How is he not playing!!!!!

PowerBug

Doherty is a limited overs bowler too. He's wayyyyy too defensive for tests. But seriously, who else is there bar SOK?
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Quote from: SilkySkills on January 31, 2013, 10:16:45 PM
Doherty is a limited overs bowler too. He's wayyyyy too defensive for tests. But seriously, who else is there bar SOK?
Well Holland and Beer were supposedly second and third in line before they both got injured. Then I guess you have SOK and Boyce and Zampa who won't be any good for at least 6 years.

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Sapientia

Quote from: BB67th on January 31, 2013, 04:06:30 PM
Hmmmm a few mistakes made in picking that squad I think.

Jon Holland and Michael Beer are obviously injured so they both weren't picked, but I think that Steve O'Keefe should have got the nod over Xavier Doherty. Still, Doherty has been impressive in the limited overs this summer and hopefully the Indian conditions will help him well. Probably better than picking Zampa or Boyce.

I hate the fact that Smith is back in the squad, I really don't see him as offering us too much. I would have preferred a bolter to come into the side like Joe Burns who looks a good prospect for the future. Still, I doubt Smith will get a game.

I think that we will be playing an allrounder at 7, with Wade at 6, meaning Khawaja will probably not get a spot back in the side until Watson starts bowling again, or he moves up to open and Cowan gets dropped, which had better happen by the time the Ashes start.

This would be my XI for the first test as it will probably be picked.

Warner
Cowan
Hughes
Watson
Clarke
Wade
Henrqiues
Starc/Pattinson
Siddle
Lyon
Doherty

I think we go with the left-right arm finger spin combination and play the two quicks, Siddle being one and Starc or Pattinson the other. Then we would probably use Henriques as the allrounder for some more fast-medium pace. I think that the side is a bit short on batting when Watson is not bowling, and I really hope he can start bowling again soon and that Cowan will be dropped.

Does anyone reckon Jackson Bird will get a go in the test matches in India? He is obviously a much better version of Hilfnehaus, keeping him out of the squad, but I would still probably think of him as the third paceman in the Aussie attack. I think Pattinson has impressed more with his fire and pace, and one of the left armers might be favoured for their variety. Or do we play Lyon only, Maxwell as the allrounder and then 3 quicks?

Nah Indian conditions don't help 90 kmph bowlers with no penetration, loop or turn. Doherty is a spud. An awful, awful selection. Clearly just wanted a spinner who turned it the opposite direction to Lyon.

We're going to need 5 legitimate bowlers to win in India and O'Keefe could have been the 5th and avoided us playing someone like Maxwell/Doherty. Pacemen win tours in India though aside from the English one... look at all the touring teams of India; those series were won off the back of pace bowlers. Going in with 2 front liners when our seamers >>>> our spinners is, in one word, stupid.

nrich102

Quote from: Sapientia on February 01, 2013, 02:46:46 AM
Quote from: BB67th on January 31, 2013, 04:06:30 PM
Hmmmm a few mistakes made in picking that squad I think.

Jon Holland and Michael Beer are obviously injured so they both weren't picked, but I think that Steve O'Keefe should have got the nod over Xavier Doherty. Still, Doherty has been impressive in the limited overs this summer and hopefully the Indian conditions will help him well. Probably better than picking Zampa or Boyce.

I hate the fact that Smith is back in the squad, I really don't see him as offering us too much. I would have preferred a bolter to come into the side like Joe Burns who looks a good prospect for the future. Still, I doubt Smith will get a game.

I think that we will be playing an allrounder at 7, with Wade at 6, meaning Khawaja will probably not get a spot back in the side until Watson starts bowling again, or he moves up to open and Cowan gets dropped, which had better happen by the time the Ashes start.

This would be my XI for the first test as it will probably be picked.

Warner
Cowan
Hughes
Watson
Clarke
Wade
Henrqiues
Starc/Pattinson
Siddle
Lyon
Doherty

I think we go with the left-right arm finger spin combination and play the two quicks, Siddle being one and Starc or Pattinson the other. Then we would probably use Henriques as the allrounder for some more fast-medium pace. I think that the side is a bit short on batting when Watson is not bowling, and I really hope he can start bowling again soon and that Cowan will be dropped.

Does anyone reckon Jackson Bird will get a go in the test matches in India? He is obviously a much better version of Hilfnehaus, keeping him out of the squad, but I would still probably think of him as the third paceman in the Aussie attack. I think Pattinson has impressed more with his fire and pace, and one of the left armers might be favoured for their variety. Or do we play Lyon only, Maxwell as the allrounder and then 3 quicks?

Nah Indian conditions don't help 90 kmph bowlers with no penetration, loop or turn. Doherty is a spud. An awful, awful selection. Clearly just wanted a spinner who turned it the opposite direction to Lyon.

We're going to need 5 legitimate bowlers to win in India and O'Keefe could have been the 5th and avoided us playing someone like Maxwell/Doherty. Pacemen win tours in India though aside from the English one... look at all the touring teams of India; those series were won off the back of pace bowlers. Going in with 2 front liners when our seamers >>>> our spinners is, in one word, stupid.
Doherty aint a spud

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: nrich102 on February 02, 2013, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: Sapientia on February 01, 2013, 02:46:46 AM
Quote from: BB67th on January 31, 2013, 04:06:30 PM
Hmmmm a few mistakes made in picking that squad I think.

Jon Holland and Michael Beer are obviously injured so they both weren't picked, but I think that Steve O'Keefe should have got the nod over Xavier Doherty. Still, Doherty has been impressive in the limited overs this summer and hopefully the Indian conditions will help him well. Probably better than picking Zampa or Boyce.

I hate the fact that Smith is back in the squad, I really don't see him as offering us too much. I would have preferred a bolter to come into the side like Joe Burns who looks a good prospect for the future. Still, I doubt Smith will get a game.

I think that we will be playing an allrounder at 7, with Wade at 6, meaning Khawaja will probably not get a spot back in the side until Watson starts bowling again, or he moves up to open and Cowan gets dropped, which had better happen by the time the Ashes start.

This would be my XI for the first test as it will probably be picked.

Warner
Cowan
Hughes
Watson
Clarke
Wade
Henrqiues
Starc/Pattinson
Siddle
Lyon
Doherty

I think we go with the left-right arm finger spin combination and play the two quicks, Siddle being one and Starc or Pattinson the other. Then we would probably use Henriques as the allrounder for some more fast-medium pace. I think that the side is a bit short on batting when Watson is not bowling, and I really hope he can start bowling again soon and that Cowan will be dropped.

Does anyone reckon Jackson Bird will get a go in the test matches in India? He is obviously a much better version of Hilfnehaus, keeping him out of the squad, but I would still probably think of him as the third paceman in the Aussie attack. I think Pattinson has impressed more with his fire and pace, and one of the left armers might be favoured for their variety. Or do we play Lyon only, Maxwell as the allrounder and then 3 quicks?

Nah Indian conditions don't help 90 kmph bowlers with no penetration, loop or turn. Doherty is a spud. An awful, awful selection. Clearly just wanted a spinner who turned it the opposite direction to Lyon.

We're going to need 5 legitimate bowlers to win in India and O'Keefe could have been the 5th and avoided us playing someone like Maxwell/Doherty. Pacemen win tours in India though aside from the English one... look at all the touring teams of India; those series were won off the back of pace bowlers. Going in with 2 front liners when our seamers >>>> our spinners is, in one word, stupid.
Doherty aint a spud

In longer forms of the game, yes he is.

Nige

Quote from: nrich102 on February 02, 2013, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: Sapientia on February 01, 2013, 02:46:46 AM
Quote from: BB67th on January 31, 2013, 04:06:30 PM
Hmmmm a few mistakes made in picking that squad I think.

Jon Holland and Michael Beer are obviously injured so they both weren't picked, but I think that Steve O'Keefe should have got the nod over Xavier Doherty. Still, Doherty has been impressive in the limited overs this summer and hopefully the Indian conditions will help him well. Probably better than picking Zampa or Boyce.

I hate the fact that Smith is back in the squad, I really don't see him as offering us too much. I would have preferred a bolter to come into the side like Joe Burns who looks a good prospect for the future. Still, I doubt Smith will get a game.

I think that we will be playing an allrounder at 7, with Wade at 6, meaning Khawaja will probably not get a spot back in the side until Watson starts bowling again, or he moves up to open and Cowan gets dropped, which had better happen by the time the Ashes start.

This would be my XI for the first test as it will probably be picked.

Warner
Cowan
Hughes
Watson
Clarke
Wade
Henrqiues
Starc/Pattinson
Siddle
Lyon
Doherty

I think we go with the left-right arm finger spin combination and play the two quicks, Siddle being one and Starc or Pattinson the other. Then we would probably use Henriques as the allrounder for some more fast-medium pace. I think that the side is a bit short on batting when Watson is not bowling, and I really hope he can start bowling again soon and that Cowan will be dropped.

Does anyone reckon Jackson Bird will get a go in the test matches in India? He is obviously a much better version of Hilfnehaus, keeping him out of the squad, but I would still probably think of him as the third paceman in the Aussie attack. I think Pattinson has impressed more with his fire and pace, and one of the left armers might be favoured for their variety. Or do we play Lyon only, Maxwell as the allrounder and then 3 quicks?

Nah Indian conditions don't help 90 kmph bowlers with no penetration, loop or turn. Doherty is a spud. An awful, awful selection. Clearly just wanted a spinner who turned it the opposite direction to Lyon.

We're going to need 5 legitimate bowlers to win in India and O'Keefe could have been the 5th and avoided us playing someone like Maxwell/Doherty. Pacemen win tours in India though aside from the English one... look at all the touring teams of India; those series were won off the back of pace bowlers. Going in with 2 front liners when our seamers >>>> our spinners is, in one word, stupid.
Doherty aint a spud

If he gets selected in the XI at any point, for any game, watch him struggle and spud up. Can't play the longer form.

nrich102

Quote from: NigeyS on February 02, 2013, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on February 02, 2013, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: Sapientia on February 01, 2013, 02:46:46 AM
Quote from: BB67th on January 31, 2013, 04:06:30 PM
Hmmmm a few mistakes made in picking that squad I think.

Jon Holland and Michael Beer are obviously injured so they both weren't picked, but I think that Steve O'Keefe should have got the nod over Xavier Doherty. Still, Doherty has been impressive in the limited overs this summer and hopefully the Indian conditions will help him well. Probably better than picking Zampa or Boyce.

I hate the fact that Smith is back in the squad, I really don't see him as offering us too much. I would have preferred a bolter to come into the side like Joe Burns who looks a good prospect for the future. Still, I doubt Smith will get a game.

I think that we will be playing an allrounder at 7, with Wade at 6, meaning Khawaja will probably not get a spot back in the side until Watson starts bowling again, or he moves up to open and Cowan gets dropped, which had better happen by the time the Ashes start.

This would be my XI for the first test as it will probably be picked.

Warner
Cowan
Hughes
Watson
Clarke
Wade
Henrqiues
Starc/Pattinson
Siddle
Lyon
Doherty

I think we go with the left-right arm finger spin combination and play the two quicks, Siddle being one and Starc or Pattinson the other. Then we would probably use Henriques as the allrounder for some more fast-medium pace. I think that the side is a bit short on batting when Watson is not bowling, and I really hope he can start bowling again soon and that Cowan will be dropped.

Does anyone reckon Jackson Bird will get a go in the test matches in India? He is obviously a much better version of Hilfnehaus, keeping him out of the squad, but I would still probably think of him as the third paceman in the Aussie attack. I think Pattinson has impressed more with his fire and pace, and one of the left armers might be favoured for their variety. Or do we play Lyon only, Maxwell as the allrounder and then 3 quicks?

Nah Indian conditions don't help 90 kmph bowlers with no penetration, loop or turn. Doherty is a spud. An awful, awful selection. Clearly just wanted a spinner who turned it the opposite direction to Lyon.

We're going to need 5 legitimate bowlers to win in India and O'Keefe could have been the 5th and avoided us playing someone like Maxwell/Doherty. Pacemen win tours in India though aside from the English one... look at all the touring teams of India; those series were won off the back of pace bowlers. Going in with 2 front liners when our seamers >>>> our spinners is, in one word, stupid.
Doherty aint a spud

If he gets selected in the XI at any point, for any game, watch him struggle and spud up. Can't play the longer form.
Ok, But why would any team play 2 spinners?

Nige

Quote from: nrich102 on February 02, 2013, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 02, 2013, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on February 02, 2013, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: Sapientia on February 01, 2013, 02:46:46 AM
Quote from: BB67th on January 31, 2013, 04:06:30 PM
Hmmmm a few mistakes made in picking that squad I think.

Jon Holland and Michael Beer are obviously injured so they both weren't picked, but I think that Steve O'Keefe should have got the nod over Xavier Doherty. Still, Doherty has been impressive in the limited overs this summer and hopefully the Indian conditions will help him well. Probably better than picking Zampa or Boyce.

I hate the fact that Smith is back in the squad, I really don't see him as offering us too much. I would have preferred a bolter to come into the side like Joe Burns who looks a good prospect for the future. Still, I doubt Smith will get a game.

I think that we will be playing an allrounder at 7, with Wade at 6, meaning Khawaja will probably not get a spot back in the side until Watson starts bowling again, or he moves up to open and Cowan gets dropped, which had better happen by the time the Ashes start.

This would be my XI for the first test as it will probably be picked.

Warner
Cowan
Hughes
Watson
Clarke
Wade
Henrqiues
Starc/Pattinson
Siddle
Lyon
Doherty

I think we go with the left-right arm finger spin combination and play the two quicks, Siddle being one and Starc or Pattinson the other. Then we would probably use Henriques as the allrounder for some more fast-medium pace. I think that the side is a bit short on batting when Watson is not bowling, and I really hope he can start bowling again soon and that Cowan will be dropped.

Does anyone reckon Jackson Bird will get a go in the test matches in India? He is obviously a much better version of Hilfnehaus, keeping him out of the squad, but I would still probably think of him as the third paceman in the Aussie attack. I think Pattinson has impressed more with his fire and pace, and one of the left armers might be favoured for their variety. Or do we play Lyon only, Maxwell as the allrounder and then 3 quicks?

Nah Indian conditions don't help 90 kmph bowlers with no penetration, loop or turn. Doherty is a spud. An awful, awful selection. Clearly just wanted a spinner who turned it the opposite direction to Lyon.

We're going to need 5 legitimate bowlers to win in India and O'Keefe could have been the 5th and avoided us playing someone like Maxwell/Doherty. Pacemen win tours in India though aside from the English one... look at all the touring teams of India; those series were won off the back of pace bowlers. Going in with 2 front liners when our seamers >>>> our spinners is, in one word, stupid.
Doherty aint a spud

If he gets selected in the XI at any point, for any game, watch him struggle and spud up. Can't play the longer form.
Ok, But why would any team play 2 spinners?

Look at what I bolded.  :)