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Permanent rolling lockout in 2013

Started by dmac07, November 30, 2012, 03:53:14 PM

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shorty3264

Quote from: noto07 on December 01, 2012, 06:17:16 PM
Quote from: shorty3264 on December 01, 2012, 06:08:49 PM
Get rid of it, its shocking. Signed!
Sides should be locked in friday night unless there is an extended week of footy, with a monday, thursday match etc.
Thats what emergencies are for! to cover late outs, hence picking a side with depth.

can see both sides of it. Probably bad for me.. But Yeh thinking emergencies especially being 4 now should be enough..
yeh, i just reckon its part of the game, they've upped trades and now a rolling lockout.
means the luck isnt with your players being late outs, but whether your rostered on a weekend shift hahah. not to mention the now pointless task of picking a captain, ie loophole.

Rowy


Justin Bieber

Yeah this will not benefit me on Saturday night and Sat afternoon. Friday nights would be good and Sundays.

Dudge

Quote from: dmac07 on December 02, 2012, 05:50:12 PM
People will surely hate this rule more and more as the year goes on. When someone goes out on a Saturday/Sunday, or works, or plays footy, or has a child doing sport, or has poor mobile reception, or has a wedding etc, etc, etc and their league opponent doesnt and they lose because of it. When one of good player such as an ablett/pendlebury/frankllin pulls out, your opponent changes it and you dont, they get a 100 point turnaround and you lose because of it. You feel cheated because the team you picked wouldve won otherwise. As someone who is busy on weekends, I can see myself losing at 2-3 league games because of this, meaning I miss finals/top 4.

Before you people that can come on on weekends say well at least everyone isnt ruined, is the whole point that we play on an even playing field? Are you going to feel as satisfied gloating to your mate at work that you beat him if its only because you could make a late change and he couldn't? And for all thos that are busy on weekends? Why would any of us even consider being in a cash league with you guys?

As far as overall goes, well anyone who is busy on weekends will lose, on my estimate, an absolute minimum of 1000 points throughout the year. So the overall ranking therefore becomes meaningless as well. Even if you can access a computer before 90% of games for the season, it takes is one missed game and your season as far as your ranking goes is ruined. If say Collingwood play Essendon on a Sunday, even if it is the last game, and Pendlebury is your Captain, he is a late withdrawal, you could change your Captain to any other pies/dons premium in your side, especially if your vice captain did poorly. If you miss out on this, just ONCE, this could cost you 300 points, your season overall ranking is gone. Lets hear you complain then!

What i find difficult with the coaches supporting this rolling lockout change, is they must feel they need it, to compete. Otherwise would'nt EVERYONE wan't a equal playing feild. I'm starting to get the impression  that certain people need a leg up, not mentioning names btw ???

kilbluff1985

Quote from: Dudge on December 02, 2012, 10:08:44 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on December 02, 2012, 05:50:12 PM
People will surely hate this rule more and more as the year goes on. When someone goes out on a Saturday/Sunday, or works, or plays footy, or has a child doing sport, or has poor mobile reception, or has a wedding etc, etc, etc and their league opponent doesnt and they lose because of it. When one of good player such as an ablett/pendlebury/frankllin pulls out, your opponent changes it and you dont, they get a 100 point turnaround and you lose because of it. You feel cheated because the team you picked wouldve won otherwise. As someone who is busy on weekends, I can see myself losing at 2-3 league games because of this, meaning I miss finals/top 4.

Before you people that can come on on weekends say well at least everyone isnt ruined, is the whole point that we play on an even playing field? Are you going to feel as satisfied gloating to your mate at work that you beat him if its only because you could make a late change and he couldn't? And for all thos that are busy on weekends? Why would any of us even consider being in a cash league with you guys?

As far as overall goes, well anyone who is busy on weekends will lose, on my estimate, an absolute minimum of 1000 points throughout the year. So the overall ranking therefore becomes meaningless as well. Even if you can access a computer before 90% of games for the season, it takes is one missed game and your season as far as your ranking goes is ruined. If say Collingwood play Essendon on a Sunday, even if it is the last game, and Pendlebury is your Captain, he is a late withdrawal, you could change your Captain to any other pies/dons premium in your side, especially if your vice captain did poorly. If you miss out on this, just ONCE, this could cost you 300 points, your season overall ranking is gone. Lets hear you complain then!

What i find difficult with the coaches supporting this rolling lockout change, is they must feel they need it, to compete. Otherwise would'nt EVERYONE wan't a equal playing feild. I'm starting to get the impression  that certain people need a leg up, not mentioning names btw ???

in ways i like this new rule and in ways i don't i'm probably 50/50 on it i finished 1,769th in SC last season so don't think i need a leg up either

if these rules stay in place i will use them to my advantage however i can

Dudge

KB ,as dmac stated, do u go to work on monday, and say, " i beat u bud "because i was on the computer,and mate you could'nt. Would u really be satisfied, without the leg up (i realise, a wins a win ), but at what cost to ur consience, really mate. And if u only lost 1 or 2 games cause of it, it may mean missing the top 4 ( double chance). Wosre still, would be getting kicked out the finals, because u could'nt access the net through commitments/ work, and that particular week ur opponent could. Overall, or striving for a decent rank, is compromised as well, just can't understand why peoplel would think the rolling lockout  is a good thing, and i'll say it for a hundreth time- the playing feild IS NOT even

leightonio

FFS if you work weekends or have commitments as everyone does anyway including me it shouldnt affect ya anyway 4 emergencies and if there is a late change is usually only for one week, what are ya gonna burn a trade? just have your side ready by friday like normal hahahhah im sorry but all of yas that dont want this rule are obviously not looking into the rule as a whole and are just jumping on the obvious negatives as i already said people work friday nights too and dont have time to finalize their team with the announcement of the sunday squads please spare a thought for them.

kilbluff1985

Quote from: Dudge on December 02, 2012, 11:53:39 PM
KB ,as dmac stated, do u go to work on monday, and say, " i beat u bud "because i was on the computer,and mate you could'nt. Would u really be satisfied, without the leg up (i realise, a wins a win ), but at what cost to ur consience, really mate. And if u only lost 1 or 2 games cause of it, it may mean missing the top 4 ( double chance). Wosre still, would be getting kicked out the finals, because u could'nt access the net through commitments/ work, and that particular week ur opponent could. Overall, or striving for a decent rank, is compromised as well, just can't understand why peoplel would think the rolling lockout  is a good thing, and i'll say it for a hundreth time- the playing feild IS NOT even

mate i don't brag about winning anyway

tbagrocks

Check my stats, I have been on ff more than anyone since I joined in April, 70 days! Well, I am likely to be watching stats all weekend and be one of the favored but this rule is stupid, insane and completely unessecary. VS can go hump a frog

Dudge

#114
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 03, 2012, 12:04:06 AM
Quote from: Dudge on December 02, 2012, 11:53:39 PM
KB ,as dmac stated, do u go to work on monday, and say, " i beat u bud "because i was on the computer,and mate you could'nt. Would u really be satisfied, without the leg up (i realise, a wins a win ), but at what cost to ur consience, really mate. And if u only lost 1 or 2 games cause of it, it may mean missing the top 4 ( double chance). Wosre still, would be getting kicked out the finals, because u could'nt access the net through commitments/ work, and that particular week ur opponent could. Overall, or striving for a decent rank, is compromised as well, just can't understand why peoplel would think the rolling lockout  is a good thing, and i'll say it for a hundreth time- the playing feild IS NOT even

mate i don't brag about winning anyway

KB, it was  honestly not directed at  u, it's the rule i hate ( i kow hates a strong word ) but it just don't feel right

quinny88

Quote from: leightonio on December 02, 2012, 11:58:00 PM
FFS if you work weekends or have commitments as everyone does anyway including me it shouldnt affect ya anyway 4 emergencies and if there is a late change is usually only for one week, what are ya gonna burn a trade? just have your side ready by friday like normal hahahhah im sorry but all of yas that dont want this rule are obviously not looking into the rule as a whole and are just jumping on the obvious negatives as i already said people work friday nights too and dont have time to finalize their team with the announcement of the sunday squads please spare a thought for them.

Yes! We have 30 of those as well so why not burn a trade to make sure you win.
And there were plenty of times that I didn't have an emergency playing on certain lines so you cant rely on emergencies every week

quinny88

#116
And guys dont just write about it amongst yourselves on here, Sign the petition, write in an email, do something to make them take notice and change it. Its an unfair rule, we all know it, even the people that it benefits who can sit by a computer all weekend know its an unfair rule so make yourself heard and lets get it over turned!

Another point I would like to make is that this doesnt only affect people that cant sit on a computer.

Lets say you can sit on a computer all weekend and you have made it to the SC grandfinal.
You lead by 20 points coming into the last game of the weekend and your opponent and you have the same 2 players remaining so therefore you cant loose! You kick your feet up, you have won the grand final... WRONG!
In an attempt to win the grandfinal he can now change one of those players to create a POD and give him a chance of winning the game. Even if you have access to a computer in case of late changes you are still defenceless to your seemingly defeated opponent pulling out a last second wild card. thats unfair.. Its complete bullshower actually

leightonio

Quote from: quinny88 on December 03, 2012, 02:44:17 AM
Quote from: leightonio on December 02, 2012, 11:58:00 PM
FFS if you work weekends or have commitments as everyone does anyway including me it shouldnt affect ya anyway 4 emergencies and if there is a late change is usually only for one week, what are ya gonna burn a trade? just have your side ready by friday like normal hahahhah im sorry but all of yas that dont want this rule are obviously not looking into the rule as a whole and are just jumping on the obvious negatives as i already said people work friday nights too and dont have time to finalize their team with the announcement of the sunday squads please spare a thought for them.

Yes! We have 30 of those as well so why not burn a trade to make sure you win.
And there were plenty of times that I didn't have an emergency playing on certain lines so you cant rely on emergencies every week

so what about people who work fridays?? and not too mention the monday games when its an extended bench till the saturday? you dont give a flower or?



quinny88

#118
Quote from: leightonio on December 03, 2012, 03:54:19 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 03, 2012, 02:44:17 AM
Quote from: leightonio on December 02, 2012, 11:58:00 PM
FFS if you work weekends or have commitments as everyone does anyway including me it shouldnt affect ya anyway 4 emergencies and if there is a late change is usually only for one week, what are ya gonna burn a trade? just have your side ready by friday like normal hahahhah im sorry but all of yas that dont want this rule are obviously not looking into the rule as a whole and are just jumping on the obvious negatives as i already said people work friday nights too and dont have time to finalize their team with the announcement of the sunday squads please spare a thought for them.

Yes! We have 30 of those as well so why not burn a trade to make sure you win.
And there were plenty of times that I didn't have an emergency playing on certain lines so you cant rely on emergencies every week

so what about people who work fridays?? and not too mention the monday games when its an extended bench till the saturday? you dont give a flower or?




Ok well for those people that work fridays thats very unfortunate but that is a fraction of the people that cant be on friday night, saturday, saturday night, sunday, sunday night. Why make it a problem for more people?

And if there is a game on monday then we all are on the same playing field if the lockout is on friday night. No one can change it or do anything about it. How would it be fair to allow some coaches to change it though and not others?

Ringo

Just realised this rule is also giving a leg up to those coaches who are on 24/7 in relation to subs.  eg Subs are usually announced 1 hr before the game so if one of their on field players or emergency named as sub you have the opportunity to change.  This disadvantages fans who actually attend games as without an Iphone or you are in a dead spot at the ground.
The other disadvantage  going on this year if you do not have radio commentary at the home ground you only find out the subs 5 minutes before first bounce.  Not enough time to change selections.  So in effect being a member with 11 home games that is half the season I am disadvantaged for at least one game. Did the HS think of the fans in these decisions.
Even though I am computer most of the time over the weekends still steadfastly against rolling lockouts. Happy to continue Partial Lockouts when game is on Thursday night.