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Permanent rolling lockout in 2013

Started by dmac07, November 30, 2012, 03:53:14 PM

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Quote from: Il_Santo on December 19, 2012, 07:14:14 PM
But in order to exploit the loophole every week in 2013 you would need to deliberately select a rookie who you were reasonably confident would not play throughout the course of the season. As the captain loophole is most often used with midfield players (as they are the highest scoring), it would have to be a midfield rookie.

So rather than picking midfield rookies who will get games, fatten up and get downgraded to others on the bubble for cash (or upgraded to premiums), we now have a situation where coaches might deliberately pick a midfield rookie who will spend 2013 in the reserves (jeopardising their emergency cover, in part) for the sake of an extra 30-50 points a week.
Wait, i don't get this part. All because your captain is always a midfielder it doesn't mean that your non-playing rookie has to be a midfielder.

E.g. If Swan my VC plays on Friday, scores 180. I can put franklin on the bench as an emergency and put my non-playing Forward rookie (Perhaps a R/F there for DPP reasons) on the field and name Franklin my emergency.
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Quote from: SilkySkills on December 19, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: Il_Santo on December 19, 2012, 07:14:14 PM
But in order to exploit the loophole every week in 2013 you would need to deliberately select a rookie who you were reasonably confident would not play throughout the course of the season. As the captain loophole is most often used with midfield players (as they are the highest scoring), it would have to be a midfield rookie.

So rather than picking midfield rookies who will get games, fatten up and get downgraded to others on the bubble for cash (or upgraded to premiums), we now have a situation where coaches might deliberately pick a midfield rookie who will spend 2013 in the reserves (jeopardising their emergency cover, in part) for the sake of an extra 30-50 points a week.
Wait, i don't get this part. All because your captain is always a midfielder it doesn't mean that your non-playing rookie has to be a midfielder.



E.g. If Swan my VC plays on Friday, scores 180. I can put franklin on the bench as an emergency and put my non-playing Forward rookie (Perhaps a R/F there for DPP reasons) on the field and name Franklin my emergency.

Exactly, and you can do this every single week. I can see myself losing 500 points, or even up to a 1000 over the year by not being able to do this.

Edit - Can also do this with emergancies every week. Say you have Viney as emergency on friday night and he scores a 100 - your other bench rookie might be dropped/out that week, so you just bring him on the field for your other playing rookie, say omeara, get vineys 100.

Il_Santo

Ah of course, doesn't need to be a mid rookie.

Well that sucks then.

Holz

Yep a non playing 4th ruck is the way to go i think. The downside though is it either means your down to 3 emg (you waste one on using the loophole) than either you dont use a emg spot on your 3rd ruck (so no ruck cover) or you dont put an emg on either your forward mid or back. So there is a potential downside.

Nails

Quote from: dmac07 on December 19, 2012, 07:36:17 PM
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 19, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: Il_Santo on December 19, 2012, 07:14:14 PM
But in order to exploit the loophole every week in 2013 you would need to deliberately select a rookie who you were reasonably confident would not play throughout the course of the season. As the captain loophole is most often used with midfield players (as they are the highest scoring), it would have to be a midfield rookie.

So rather than picking midfield rookies who will get games, fatten up and get downgraded to others on the bubble for cash (or upgraded to premiums), we now have a situation where coaches might deliberately pick a midfield rookie who will spend 2013 in the reserves (jeopardising their emergency cover, in part) for the sake of an extra 30-50 points a week.
Wait, i don't get this part. All because your captain is always a midfielder it doesn't mean that your non-playing rookie has to be a midfielder.



E.g. If Swan my VC plays on Friday, scores 180. I can put franklin on the bench as an emergency and put my non-playing Forward rookie (Perhaps a R/F there for DPP reasons) on the field and name Franklin my emergency.

Exactly, and you can do this every single week. I can see myself losing 500 points, or even up to a 1000 over the year by not being able to do this.

Edit - Can also do this with emergancies every week. Say you have Viney as emergency on friday night and he scores a 100 - your other bench rookie might be dropped/out that week, so you just bring him on the field for your other playing rookie, say omeara, get vineys 100.

Say you use this on Swan who gets 180 so you don't captain GAJ who gets 130

That's 50 points...

That's only going to happen once every 5 weeks you might use the loophole for captaincy and you'd likely gain 20-25 points...

Not going to cost you more than 400 points at worst, unlikely the 1000 you're making it out to be.

You also have to remember it can backfire... someone who might usually captain GAJ might be happy w/ his 125 then Swan gets 180 on a Saturday :o

It's not a guarantee of better points.

dmac07

Quote from: Nails on December 21, 2012, 05:57:26 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on December 19, 2012, 07:36:17 PM
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 19, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: Il_Santo on December 19, 2012, 07:14:14 PM
But in order to exploit the loophole every week in 2013 you would need to deliberately select a rookie who you were reasonably confident would not play throughout the course of the season. As the captain loophole is most often used with midfield players (as they are the highest scoring), it would have to be a midfield rookie.

So rather than picking midfield rookies who will get games, fatten up and get downgraded to others on the bubble for cash (or upgraded to premiums), we now have a situation where coaches might deliberately pick a midfield rookie who will spend 2013 in the reserves (jeopardising their emergency cover, in part) for the sake of an extra 30-50 points a week.
Wait, i don't get this part. All because your captain is always a midfielder it doesn't mean that your non-playing rookie has to be a midfielder.



E.g. If Swan my VC plays on Friday, scores 180. I can put franklin on the bench as an emergency and put my non-playing Forward rookie (Perhaps a R/F there for DPP reasons) on the field and name Franklin my emergency.

Exactly, and you can do this every single week. I can see myself losing 500 points, or even up to a 1000 over the year by not being able to do this.

Edit - Can also do this with emergancies every week. Say you have Viney as emergency on friday night and he scores a 100 - your other bench rookie might be dropped/out that week, so you just bring him on the field for your other playing rookie, say omeara, get vineys 100.

Say you use this on Swan who gets 180 so you don't captain GAJ who gets 130

That's 50 points...

That's only going to happen once every 5 weeks you might use the loophole for captaincy and you'd likely gain 20-25 points...

Not going to cost you more than 400 points at worst, unlikely the 1000 you're making it out to be.

You also have to remember it can backfire... someone who might usually captain GAJ might be happy w/ his 125 then Swan gets 180 on a Saturday :o

It's not a guarantee of better points.

Yes but say you captain swan and he gets injured just once for the year early and you cant change him to gaj, costs you 150. And regularly the difference between the two could be 80 points (180 vs 100) so could cost you more then 25. Or with the emergency situation, Viney gets the 100 on friday, then omeara gets named the sub and you cant changed, he gets a 20, another 80. The emergency situation especially could happen every second week and cost you, say conservatively, 45 points, theres another 500-600 points gone.

Freddy

This may have already been posted, sorry if that is the case. As you are probably aware there will be rolling lockouts every round of the 2013 season, this will obviously make life harder for those who work weekends, who have families, or just have other shower to do.
There is a petition to eradicate rolling lockouts this year and if you are against it (like I am) then please sign to try to get this stupid rule overturned.

Here is the link:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/eradicate-rolling-lockout-from-dt-2013/



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tbagrocks

Lol yeah, and i''l still coment, as the most online ff mamber, seriously, in about 8 months I have almost 90 days logged on!

I dislike this rule completely and although I might be favored ( unless i'm playing saturday afternoon basketball) it really is the stupidest thing they could have done! Thursday teams was fascinating along with friday lockout!

Grazz

Yeh weve had that up, signed it but as i see it you cant get it up there enough so probably worth a reminder. The rule is a turkey.

Freddy

#190
oops... only 140 signatures so far. Would have to be many many more if VS are to take it seriously

tbagrocks

Quote from: Freddy on January 09, 2013, 02:28:18 AM
oops... only 140 signatures so far. Would have to be many many more if VS are to take it seriously
VS can take their virtual Dean Cox and shove it in their virtual Sidebottom! ;) :o :P 8)

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tbagrocks

I'm not big on DT talk as I live ff, but the ratio there is aboit 5/14 for a no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Seriously wtf are the imbisiles thinking? Worst thing they could ever do!

Surely the Captain will be locked at partial lockout? Simply cannot allow that advantage all year

I Will just have Walker as VC every game ;D

jimmytigs

hey if you combine it with reducing the trades to 24 i would sign it.But this rolling lockout will be an advantage to a guy like me, even though i agree that it shouldnt be there.But i aint signing against something thats to my advantage,while thousands of nuffnuffs,who put in little effort,will be advantaged by 30 trades & by round 16 when theyve used them all im gonna be 4 games behind them in my league with 12 trades left trying to play it smart & looking like a dick.

NO ROLLING LOCKOUT & REDUCE THE TRADES-PUT A LITTLE SKILL & REWARD FOR EFFORT BACK INTO THE COMP