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Ricky Ponting Retiring.

Started by Nails, November 29, 2012, 03:42:43 PM

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Cicjose

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 12:03:04 AM
Ponting is one of the three greatest batsmen in the modern era.

Statistically, he is the most successful captain of all time. One of 3 to surpass 13,000 runs. Given so much to Australian cricket throughout his distinguished career.

And here you are calling him arrogant, selfish and an ordinary captain.

It's childish, jealousy, stupidity and naivety all rolled into one statement.

you are the one blinded by his past exploits, and not about the fact he has been a walking wicket for the best part of 3 years

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: Cicjose on November 30, 2012, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 12:03:04 AM
Ponting is one of the three greatest batsmen in the modern era.

Statistically, he is the most successful captain of all time. One of 3 to surpass 13,000 runs. Given so much to Australian cricket throughout his distinguished career.

And here you are calling him arrogant, selfish and an ordinary captain.

It's childish, jealousy, stupidity and naivety all rolled into one statement.

you are the one blinded by his past exploits, and not about the fact he has been a walking wicket for the best part of 3 years

Did I say that he needs to continue playing?
Is the fact a batsman's form declines as his age progresses anything new with Ponting?

Why would all of Tendulkar, Kallis, Hussey, Smith etc. be playing?

So by your logic, Bradman was an average batter and captain, because his form declined.

Lara must of been an average batter as well, as must of Hayden

Cicjose

they all walked away at the top of their game not like ponting

BB67th

Quote from: Cicjose on November 30, 2012, 04:35:01 PM
they all walked away at the top of their game not like ponting
Tendulkar's top of his game was years ago, but he looks like he will wait for years before he retires.

Nails

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 04:14:56 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on November 30, 2012, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 12:03:04 AM
Ponting is one of the three greatest batsmen in the modern era.

Statistically, he is the most successful captain of all time. One of 3 to surpass 13,000 runs. Given so much to Australian cricket throughout his distinguished career.

And here you are calling him arrogant, selfish and an ordinary captain.

It's childish, jealousy, stupidity and naivety all rolled into one statement.

you are the one blinded by his past exploits, and not about the fact he has been a walking wicket for the best part of 3 years

Did I say that he needs to continue playing?
Is the fact a batsman's form declines as his age progresses anything new with Ponting?

Why would all of Tendulkar, Kallis, Hussey, Smith etc. be playing?

So by your logic, Bradman was an average batter and captain, because his form declined.

Lara must of been an average batter as well, as must of Hayden

In Bradman's last 8 tests he averaged 113.8888888888889

His form didn't decline wtf you smoking?

cic is on the money.

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: Cicjose on November 30, 2012, 04:35:01 PM
they all walked away at the top of their game not like ponting

No, none of them walked away at the top of their game.

No one does, regardless of what sport you play.

If you respect someone like Dustin Fletcher, you respect someone like Ponting.

Why doesn't Fletcher just retire? He's just being selfish taking up someone who would be newer's spot.

Do you see how stupid you sound?

There is no logic, no fact anywhere on the earth to support this. The only way to explain any sort of this argument is just bias.

Shihan7


Jay

No matter when he walked away from the game - you still have to respect the guys career ::)

+1King

Quote from: Jayman on November 30, 2012, 05:55:50 PM
No matter when he walked away from the game - you still have to respect the guys career ::)
+1

ossie85


Why do haters gotta hate :( He averaged 100 last summer, struggled in the Windies where EVERY batsmen struggled (except Chanderpaul) and is now is walking away from the game when he knows he is done. Not to mention the invaluable guidance he would have been given everybody's favourite player Michael Clarke (as everyone hated him before he was Captain).

He is walking away when he's finished.

Nails

Quote from: ossie85 on December 01, 2012, 08:13:09 AM

Why do haters gotta hate :( He averaged 100 last summer, struggled in the Windies where EVERY batsmen struggled (except Chanderpaul) and is now is walking away from the game when he knows he is done. Not to mention the invaluable guidance he would have been given everybody's favourite player Michael Clarke (as everyone hated him before he was Captain).

He is walking away when he's finished.

If you take out the series against India (which I know isn't really fair) which gives you an indication how he has gone in all other series

He has averaged: 19.26923076923077

Terrible.

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: Nails on December 01, 2012, 09:41:23 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 01, 2012, 08:13:09 AM

Why do haters gotta hate :( He averaged 100 last summer, struggled in the Windies where EVERY batsmen struggled (except Chanderpaul) and is now is walking away from the game when he knows he is done. Not to mention the invaluable guidance he would have been given everybody's favourite player Michael Clarke (as everyone hated him before he was Captain).

He is walking away when he's finished.

If you take out the series against India (which I know isn't really fair) which gives you an indication how he has gone in all other series

He has averaged: 19.26923076923077

Terrible.

But I don't understand how that makes you or Cic think he's an arrogant and selfish player?

If he was selfish, he probably wouldn't of given up the captaincy to play on further. Heck, that's pretty rare in Australian culture

Nails

Post match interviews were always about how the Aussies stuffed up in a loss, how we played bad...

Similar to him more like how he got unlucky etc.

With Ponting was never about the opposition playing genuinely awesome, was just about how bad the Aussies played. It was as if everything revolved around him in the side. We could be playing 6 Bradmans, 1 Gilchrist, 3 Lillees and 1 Warne and if we lost he'd still say it was because of how bad/unlucky we played. Not because of quality opposition.

BB67th

I hate how everyone ruins these threads with some big argument like the one above. He was a legend of Australian cricket and one of the best batsman ever to grace the game. Can't we just remember the great things that he did?

Tominator

Quote from: BB67th on December 01, 2012, 10:11:10 AM
I hate how everyone ruins these threads with some big argument like the one above. He was a legend of Australian cricket and one of the best batsman ever to grace the game. Can't we just remember the great things that he did?

well said BB