Hey, how do i join in?

Started by kilbluff1985, November 25, 2012, 05:47:27 AM

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Ziplock

It's not as big of an issue as it was when we were all crammed into one board, that being said, we've already run out of major scoring systems. You could double up, but that would cheapen it...

it's not change,  I didnt have massive issues with british or asian, I just dont see the necessity for a new comp at this stage, especially when it's relying on current coaches like lez to take positions :P

Colliwobblers


Ringo

Logistically and from experience it will be difficult to get a new competition up and running for 2013.  This is from experience as to how long initial draft takes.

As a compromise can I suggest the following and please feel free to disagree:

At the end of 2013 we undertake a review of the four competitions.
This will involve getting commitment from all coaches to the relative competitions.
Ask coaches with multiple teams if they wish to relinquish any of their teams. - Stress will be voluntary not forced.  Personally speaking I would like to give up my British, as administrator to maintain independence, but as I drafted the team would like to see out the first season. Bear in mind this will be the first season of British and Asians.
Invite applications from coaches for teams that are available with preference being given to Coaches without a team. Applications to follow the process outlined for each competition.
Set a specific period for this to occur and delay trading until finalised so any new coaches not disadvantaged,

If the last couple of years are any indication there will be coaching vacancies as a result of sackings etc occur through out the season as well.

Just a comment I do not think there is any stigma taking over a team as we are trying to make as realistic to AFL as possible so the challenge is there to lift team.  Enjoying the challenge of trying to lift my World XV team I took over mid season last year. Think that is more of a challenge than drafting a team personally.

Also I think some coaches lose their enthusiasm for the team after the initial draft and as a result teams suffer.

Lastly bear in mind the intention of these competitions are to reflect as close as possible AFL rules so they are long term competitions not one season wonders.

Nige

I honestly can't complain now that I think about it, since I'm actually co-coach of Cairo in the WXVs competition. However, as a suggestion for others, and I'm not sure whether this is already in place or not, but if another competition doesn't get opened any time soon, maybe set up a waiting list?  :)

GM

Being  relatively new to FF, i commend the inventors of these competitions and how they are run.So i totally understand the
interernal pressure to preserve and maintain the uniqueness and quality of them.The idea of starting a new team from scratch and for all the processes involved from drafting,trading,maintaining and future forsight makes it very appealing to get involved.
Correct me here if i am wrong,the issues seem to be that once the initial excitement of the draft and trading has gone that initial enthusiasm drops off in some.Maybe as i see it,a lot of trades are made for the future, 2- 3 years down the track as it happens in the Afl,to keep interest in your team while its rebuilding does wane in some.
Imo to be allowed 1 team per FF member would probably maintain the quality of the competition and allow new members the opportunity to get involved.Maybe this could be revisited after 3 years of good history and put to a vote.
To get new people on board brings new ideas and enthusiasm with it ,which can only be a good thing.
I also take my hat off to good blokes like Nigeys,his enthusiasm and eagerness he brings to the table at FF should be commended.
No doubt some will disagree here,bet hey,thats what its all about.Lots of differing opinions.


Maca24

Yeah the problem is you guys don't realise a new comp would fail, and shouldnt be made because a couple of you want to draft a team, when trade periods are long enough to completely change your team.
The solution for getting everyone a team is to make it 1 TEAM per person.
Think all us members including me with more than one team maybe need to bite the bullet and make way for other keen fanfooty members.

But I'm completely and utterly against a new comp.
IMO British has been through hell and is still up in the air as to whether it will succeed.

GM

Quote from: Maca24 on February 06, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
Yeah the problem is you guys don't realise a new comp would fail, and shouldnt be made because a couple of you want to draft a team, when trade periods are long enough to completely change your team.
The solution for getting everyone a team is to make it 1 TEAM per person.
Think all us members including me with more than one team maybe need to bite the bullet and make way for other keen fanfooty members.

But I'm completely and utterly against a new comp.
IMO British has been through hell and is still up in the air as to whether it will succeed.
I totally agree Maca.As much as i would like to get involved with a new team,the comps in place now need to be up and running successfully first.Whats the old saying,Too much of a good thing and the shower hits the fan.

Justin Bieber

Well last year I was trying to give away my British team, but no one wanted it. Now I have traded in quality and will be top 4 and see myself winning, so I don't want to give it up anymore :P

Ringo

Just letting you know Macca - Am doing my best to make British succeed but with all the changes we have had to go through is trying.  Hoping once the comp gets started will get an idea of the real interest when teams have to be lodged. may get an indication when Team lodgements are required as well.

Agree with you on 1 team per person but as i said giving up of teams should be strongly encouraged but not forced,


elephants

Quote from: whatlez on February 06, 2013, 02:05:38 PM
Well last year I was trying to give away my British team, but no one wanted it. Now I have traded in quality and will be top 4 and see myself winning, so I don't want to give it up anymore :P

I call bullshower haha.

KoopKicka

Really need an asians assistant.

The_Captain

Yeh limiting to one team each would work. And i agree about not having one for this year. Im talking maybe for 2014. But if some coaches gave up a team or so then the new comp wouldn't be needed with an adequate trading period  :)

Ziplock

Quote from: Maca24 on February 06, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
Yeah the problem is you guys don't realise a new comp would fail, and shouldnt be made because a couple of you want to draft a team, when trade periods are long enough to completely change your team.
The solution for getting everyone a team is to make it 1 TEAM per person.
Think all us members including me with more than one team maybe need to bite the bullet and make way for other keen fanfooty members.

But I'm completely and utterly against a new comp.
IMO British has been through hell and is still up in the air as to whether it will succeed.

Im with this.

and greenmoon, get the bashers/ holz to show you their teams for 2012 and 2013, they completely changed them with trading.

Justin Bieber

Quote from: elephants on February 06, 2013, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 06, 2013, 02:05:38 PM
Well last year I was trying to give away my British team, but no one wanted it. Now I have traded in quality and will be top 4 and see myself winning, so I don't want to give it up anymore :P

I call bullshower haha.
The truth hurts ;)

Holz

Quote from: Ziplock on February 06, 2013, 03:09:09 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on February 06, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
Yeah the problem is you guys don't realise a new comp would fail, and shouldnt be made because a couple of you want to draft a team, when trade periods are long enough to completely change your team.
The solution for getting everyone a team is to make it 1 TEAM per person.
Think all us members including me with more than one team maybe need to bite the bullet and make way for other keen fanfooty members.

But I'm completely and utterly against a new comp.
IMO British has been through hell and is still up in the air as to whether it will succeed.

Im with this.

and greenmoon, get the bashers/ holz to show you their teams for 2012 and 2013, they completely changed them with trading.

2012 starting team + emergency

Backs:  J.Adcock , T.Mohr , N.Malcheski, S.D.Thompson
Mids: L.Shuey , B.Gibbs (VC) , T.Cotchin (C) , M.Priddis
Ruck S.Mumford
Forwards T.Cloke , M.Lecras, M.Johnson, T.Walsh
Utilities: D.Swallow, K.Cornes

Emg: S.Coniglio,D.Shiel, T.Scully

2013 starting team + emergency

Backs: B.Goddard, H.Shaw, B.Gibbs, J.Adcock
Mids: S.Pendles, M.Boyd, B.Deledio, M.Barlow
Ruck: T.Goldstien
Fwds: T.Cloke, D.Petrie, B.Harvey, M.Lecras
Utilities: L.Athony, A.Sandilands

Emg: D.Swallow, K.Simpson, A.Walker