Crows 'tamper' affair

[j959]

this is still irking me even after a few months but mainly because of the way the club dealt with Rendell when you compare with what they 'gave' Trigg et al as 'punishments' ...  :-\   :(    >:(     ;)

[Grazz]

this is still irking me even after a few months but mainly because of the way the club dealt with Rendell when you compare with what they 'gave' Trigg et al as 'punishments' ...  :-\   :(    >:(     ;)

Without wanting to assist in dragging all this up again i gotta agree mate, Rendell was crucified for not breaking any rules as far as im aware, where as Trigg did break atleast 3 from memory which were no small ones and remains. Highly hypocritical imo. >:(

[Ziplock]

once again I'll say this

cheating is rife in pretty much all sports- nobody particulary likes it, but everyone knows it happens, that's why so much effort is put into trying to find the cheating barbies, that being said, people can identify with someones reasoning to cheat.

a majority of people now days however, can not identify with racist discrimination.

Ftr, I still think rendalls comments were taken way out of context and blown out of proportion, but, I can understand the different levels of punishments.

[Grazz]

Like you i really don't think Rendell was being racist at all. Over reaction by the Crows. Doubt the Pie's would of jumped on him so quick if he had any inkling of a racist bone in his body. I'm pretty confident the Crows behind closed doors would admit they over reacted.

[Capper]

i dont want to start any thing but how many indigenous players were picked up in the draft? I dont think there was that many.

Regarding the contracts though, i think the AFL will be looking at all the teams books and contracts to have a second look

[j959]

once again I'll say this

cheating is rife in pretty much all sports- nobody particulary likes it, but everyone knows it happens, that's why so much effort is put into trying to find the cheating barbies, that being said, people can identify with someones reasoning to cheat.

a majority of people now days however, can not identify with racist discrimination.

Ftr, I still think rendalls comments were taken way out of context and blown out of proportion, but, I can understand the different levels of punishments.

interesting view point zip in terms of you understanding the different levels of punishment.
FTR i too think Rendell's comments were taken way out of context and blown out of proportion - having seen his full interview (can't remember who with, think 9's Footy Show??) i was pretty ok with not labelling him as racist in any way.

i think in our goal of appropriate political correctness (ie not going to far one way and overblowing things), society is generally a little too quick to label legitimate debate on racial issues as 'racist' when that is not always a fair moniker.

i just think cheating is cheating - playing within the rules to best advantage (eg Joel Bowden goal-line points, which made AFL change the rules) is fine but cf #lancearmstrong.   ;)

[SydneyRox]

this is still irking me even after a few months but mainly because of the way the club dealt with Rendell when you compare with what they 'gave' Trigg et al as 'punishments' ...  :-\   :(    >:(     ;)

oh no you didnt..... thought this thread and the tippett threads were gone!!

[tbagrocks]

Crows really had no choice, either Rendell went or AFL step in, absolutely shocking witch hunt though, he wasn't even being racist

[Grazz]

this is still irking me even after a few months but mainly because of the way the club dealt with Rendell when you compare with what they 'gave' Trigg et al as 'punishments' ...  :-\   :(    >:(     ;)

oh no you didnt..... thought this thread and the tippett threads were gone!!

Haha yes we should possibly let sleeping dogs lay.  :-X

[j959]

this is still irking me even after a few months but mainly because of the way the club dealt with Rendell when you compare with what they 'gave' Trigg et al as 'punishments' ...  :-\   :(    >:(     ;)

oh no you didnt..... thought this thread and the tippett threads were gone!!

Haha yes we should possibly let sleeping dogs lay.  :-X

it's the off-season, i'm procrastinating ...  ;)

[Ziplock]

i dont want to start any thing but how many indigenous players were picked up in the draft? I dont think there was that many.

Regarding the contracts though, i think the AFL will be looking at all the teams books and contracts to have a second look

indigenous people only make up 2.5% of australias population.

not including rookie promotions, or international selections, about 125 players were drafted this year

subsequently, statistically there should only be around 3.1 indigenous players drafted. Obviously you cant have .1 of a player, so 3-4 is an acceptable range.

goodes is indigenous, as is simpson, sumner, hartman

that's 4 there, I'm not sure about the rest of the rookie draft though, there could be more. 

that statistically covers an indigenous contribution to the draft though doesnt it?

[Grazz]

this is still irking me even after a few months but mainly because of the way the club dealt with Rendell when you compare with what they 'gave' Trigg et al as 'punishments' ...  :-\   :(    >:(     ;)

oh no you didnt..... thought this thread and the tippett threads were gone!!

Haha yes we should possibly let sleeping dogs lay.  :-X

it's the off-season, i'm procrastinating ...  ;)

Haha fair enough.  :P

i dont want to start any thing but how many indigenous players were picked up in the draft? I dont think there was that many.

Regarding the contracts though, i think the AFL will be looking at all the teams books and contracts to have a second look

indigenous people only make up 2.5% of australias population.

not including rookie promotions, or international selections, about 125 players were drafted this year

subsequently, statistically there should only be around 3.1 indigenous players drafted. Obviously you cant have .1 of a player, so 3-4 is an acceptable range.

goodes is indigenous, as is simpson, sumner, hartman

that's 4 there, I'm not sure about the rest of the rookie draft though, there could be more. 

that statistically covers an indigenous contribution to the draft though doesnt it?

Did well there zip.

[McRooster]

Now I know this thread is dead... But..

My wife just asked me while we were watching the footy show - didn't Nathan Buckley only agree to go to Brisbane if he was allowed to go to Collingwood the year after. Sounds just like Kurt Tippett extending his deal at Adelaide to ensure he got to go back to the club of his choice. Why all the bullshower about Kurt when the precedent was already there?

Help me out lads and ladettes.

[Ziplock]

I think because adelaide specified what for- a 2nd round pick, while brisbane probably said we'll trade you there for whatever.

or something like that.

it was the fact adelaide had like predetermined tippetts value or something.

[Ringo]

Zip is correct in that the agreement was there for him to go to a Melbourne club of his choice. Pies or actual draft picks were not mentioned unlike Tippett.  So basically it was a case of what we could get for him.

here is some of the record

"In early 1992 struggling Australian Football League (AFL) club Brisbane Bears drafted Buckley through its Northern Territory state zone. Buckley challenged the AFL draft system and sparked controversy by initially resisting a move to Brisbane. His dreams were to play in Melbourne due to its culture in the sport, therefore felt the Bears were an undesirable career option. However AFL draft rules prevented him from playing with another AFL club and so remained in the SANFL.

Buckley signed with the Bears for the 1993 AFL season as part of a deal between Buckley and the Bears that allowed him to go to the club of his choice the following season. Brisbane hoped his time in Queensland would be long enough to change his mind. Buckley immediately demonstrated his potential, playing 20 games, kicking 21 goals and impressing with his general play. He was the inaugural winner of the Norwich Rising Star Award and finished a close second in the Bears' best-and-fairest award."