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Crows 'tamper' affair

Started by Jay, October 24, 2012, 08:50:19 AM

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Grazz

We are obviously guilty there's no denying that. The side note exists it wasn't lodged with the AFL as part of the contract so we are guilty. I'm seeing a lot of over reaction from people though. Let the punishment fit the crime please, the Crows stood to gain nothing from it, if in that 3 years Tippett turned into an outright gun and then went home to Brisbane we would of had no choice but to except a second round draft pick as we agreed. I have no doubt that the clause or side note would of been wanted by Tippett also to ensure he got to where he wanted which we all felt was Brisbane or possibly GC. He was happy to stay at the time we didn't force him or bribe him that's a long bow to draw. By definition yes its Draft tampering but one of the mildest cases i believe to of existed. If more comes to light and its worse than what we know of now then punish us accordingly. If you ask me sides that deliberately perform poorly through out a season in order to finish bottom aka  Melbourne the most recent are more guilty of draft tampering than the Crows. 500k-800k fine for this is just ridiculous as far as i'm concerned. How many sides over the years have blatantly tanked a season in order to get early draft picks concession picks. Gimme a break. Let the punishment fit the crime. Im dissapointed in the club and John Ried for even thinking of doing it let alone doing it in fact im pissed off and i'll express that view to them via a phone call or an email. Should not of happened.

Cant help but feel Tippett's or his old man had something to do with it ie a phone call to Trigg saying hey get this Sydney deal done or remember when you did this side note, well that may just come to light and Trigg has called his bluff and gone to the AFL 1st and fessed up. That also is a long bow to draw i know. Either way its not excuse for what we did and im not meaning it be just venting.

SydneyRox

Yeah, Grazz I agree, this isnt exactly a serious problem in the scheme of things. Adelaide have done the wrong thing, pay a fine an move on.
Get Tippett to Sydney for 23 and White, if Sydney still have that on the table.
One extra concern from the AFL might be that this isnt the only 'note' at Adelaide and some of the others might be more in the crows favour?

Tominator

I reckon the Crows should cop a fine - IF proven guilty - then have Tippett de-registered. That is what I would be happy with. To take away draft picks seems a bit too harsh, but then again I do not know the full circumstances of what has actually happened

Grazz

Quote from: SydneyRox on October 24, 2012, 11:48:48 PM
Yeah, Grazz I agree, this isnt exactly a serious problem in the scheme of things. Adelaide have done the wrong thing, pay a fine an move on.
Get Tippett to Sydney for 23 and White, if Sydney still have that on the table.
One extra concern from the AFL might be that this isnt the only 'note' at Adelaide and some of the others might be more in the crows favour?

Yeh i'll be honest Syd thats my worry to that other players have had that clause added to their contracts at Adelaide. If that proves to be the case then maybe we should be afforded the maximum penalty. As a supporter its very dissapointing. 20 years of building a stand up reputation flushed down the toilet for this is about as dumb as it gets.

Spite

I'm leaning towards stripping them of pick 20 (their first round draft pick) but then allowing tippett to be traded for pick 23 + white etc. Basically like Tippett walking, but lose 3 spots in the draft, tippett get's to move and not be de-registered and crows don't have to pay a fine. If proven guilty of course.

Tominator

I still think Tippett will be sent to the PSD...   Sydney will definitely be having second thoughts on Tippett now

Not sure if the AFL have enough time to lodge a full investigation before the trade period shuts, so there may not be a trade at all... this is gonna get very interesting

Scrads

Quote from: SydneyRox on October 24, 2012, 11:48:48 PM
Yeah, Grazz I agree, this isnt exactly a serious problem in the scheme of things. Adelaide have done the wrong thing, pay a fine an move on.
Get Tippett to Sydney for 23 and White, if Sydney still have that on the table.
One extra concern from the AFL might be that this isnt the only 'note' at Adelaide and some of the others might be more in the crows favour?

This is the main issue for the whole thing. AFL contracts have something in them which says something to the effect of 'there are no other payments/benefits/incentives for this player outside of this contract' and both parties would have signed it so you could argue it is also a case of fraud. The AFL demand they know every intricate detail of a player/club relationship and if they don't then they won't be happy about it.

Boomz

Apparently the crows might have paid for Joel Tippett to move to Adelaide to help Kurt be at ease there... Think the crows are flowered big time...

JBs-Hawks

Yea heard somewhere the crows werent happy tippet was leaving after bringing Joel to Adelaide.

RiOtChEsS


AFEV

And the saga continues...

QuoteTHE AFL investigation into alleged draft tampering by Adelaide has been broadened to include accusations of salary cap cheating.

What a mess!

Tominator

Picture Kurt Tippett playing in Adelaide next year or after that...... Will be a sell out fo sho

roo boys!


Tominator

Kurt Tippett is the most hated man in SA right now

Chopps

Afl. Com has an article now about a probe to see if Adelaide paid for Joel to move which I guess would be a salary cap breach as money s going to a third party, think about things are gonna get ugly now.

Side note wtf Adelaide nice work flushing a decent reputation down the drain,