Crows 'tamper' affair

[nas]

How many times has this been asked, & denied that there Was an agreement in place? Been asked for ages so sorry, think that really AFC are in the deep end.
Trigg denied it for ages & recently in the local paper also.

[Toga]

This is getting ugly  :-\

doesn't look good for either party :-\

from Rucci:

Trigg's decision to hand the document to the AFL on Friday appears to have been triggered, in part, by rival AFL club Gold Coast becoming aware of Tippett's letter of arrangement with the Crows and seeking AFL scrutiny of the 2009 document.

Source:
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/adelaide-crows-in-draft-tamper-claim/story-e6frg213-1226502090401

[Ziplock]

I think adelaide came clean just to flower tippett.

[quinny88]

What are Adelaide thinking? Honestly, why wouldn't they have just done the deal with Sydney that was offered to them from the start, knowing that they didn't want anything to get ugly and make their "under the table" deals made public.
Now they have kicked up a sh*t storm that is likely to leave them with a massive fine, draft picks taken away and a bad reputation.
Tippet may not play for a year but he will be back playing the following year and Adelaide will get nothing for him. They are too stubborn for their own good in this situation. Cant wrap my head around it.

[quinny88]

On a bright note, Tippet will be cheap as chips for SC/DT in 2014 :D

[Grazz]

Im glad the AFL are going to go through everything at Adelaide. We the supporters deserve the whole story and even more important the truth. getting more dissapointed by the minute.  :(

[Toga]

What are Adelaide thinking? Honestly, why wouldn't they have just done the deal with Sydney that was offered to them from the start, knowing that they didn't want anything to get ugly and make their "under the table" deals made public.
Now they have kicked up a sh*t storm that is likely to leave them with a massive fine, draft picks taken away and a bad reputation.
Tippet may not play for a year but he will be back playing the following year and Adelaide will get nothing for him. They are too stubborn for their own good in this situation. Cant wrap my head around it.

I think gold coast found them out so that's why adelaide came clean, because it would look better coming from them.

But I agree, their stubbornness is getting them absolutely nowhere. As you said, Tippett might not play for a year, but Adelaide will probably have financial trouble for years.

[Chopps]

Why is this all surprising I thought both these things were already suspected.

[Grazz]

Why is this all surprising I thought both these things were already suspected.

From what ive been reading of late regarding the whole saga it has been doing the rumour mills in Adelaide for awhile.
TBH i havent heard jack about it, which is strange as i have a couple of contacts that hear alot of stuff outa the AFC yet i knew nothing, where the hell have i been lol.  :o

[Chopps]

Well grazz I m not sure there had been speculation about a clause for ages would of thought the afl would of followed this rumor up. Also if we did pay for Joel to move why? I am sure Kurt had enough cash to move his brother......Very silly move by the crows if true.

We will be labeled cheats which is harsh considering none of this benefitted the crows yes we kept tippet but in 09 where was he going that was gonna offer him that money, the clause doesn't benefit the crows nor does moving Joel if Kurt wanted out he new where the door was he wasn't forced to do this.

I am not backing the crows actions as its a clear breach of the rules regardless and the blame lies with the crows.

At the end of this we haven't gained an unfair advantage but rules are rules.

I m a loyal supporter through thick and thin and we ll bounce back. People and clubs make mistakes this was just a biggy.

[j959]

i'm not quite seeing how people don't see that AFC got a benefit from the 'gentleman's agreement or thinking that they've done nothing wrong.    ???

if it is proven as written, it would seem to be a pretty clear case of 'under the table dealing' in that the deal was not transparent to the AFL, other clubs and the footy world in general which then has implications for the draft and salary cap - the draft and salary cap are supposed to be the mechanisms in place to keep the AFL landscape relatively fair and equitable (as close to a level playing field as we can muster), so that every club is theoretically able to rebuild and retool to have a chance at the premiership in cycles - so if AFC and Tippett have 'tampered' with the transparency of either of these two mechanisms, surely penalties are going to be involved??

[Chopps]

J959 I didn't say we didn't break the rules I did say we should cop the penalty (may not be in this thread)
How has these deals benefited the crows? We kept tippet yes but I d suggest we were going to for that period anyway. We would of traded tippet undervalue,if he was so homesick that money didn't matter gr would of moved to the lions or swans in 09.

[Toga]

J959 I didn't say we didn't break the rules I did say we should cop the penalty (may not be in this thread)
How has these deals benefited the crows? We kept tippet yes but I d suggest we were going to for that period anyway. We would of traded tippet undervalue,if he was so homesick that money didn't matter gr would of moved to the lions or swans in 09.

well the most obvious benefit for the crows is the fact that tippett may have left in '09 if those extra incentives weren't there...?  ???

[Ziplock]

firstly you did break the rules, as toga says, if it wasnt for the side agreement, tippett could have left the crows.

I really dont think it's a huge deal though-  2010 you finished 11, 2011 14th, this year 3rd, not that tippett contributed to that.

had you won a premiership though... shower would have hit the fan.

[Grazz]

I think Chopps makes a good point, in 09 where would Tippett of gone and got the money the Crows were paying him. Not an excuse just an explanation.