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Crows 'tamper' affair

Started by Jay, October 24, 2012, 08:50:19 AM

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Capper

Quote from: Tominator on October 30, 2012, 12:52:19 PM
Dees also have Jesse Hogan to come in next year... don't rule out the Dogs taking him at 5 or 6 though in the National Draft
and im sure they are spending millions to get Hogan in  ::), especially since he cant play till 2014 ::) ::)

Toga

Quote from: tabs on October 30, 2012, 01:15:04 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 30, 2012, 12:52:19 PM
Dees also have Jesse Hogan to come in next year... don't rule out the Dogs taking him at 5 or 6 though in the National Draft
and im sure they are spending millions to get Hogan in  ::), especially since he cant play till 2014 ::) ::)

I think tom's saying they don't need Tippett, hogan is another KF coming through.

Mr.Craig

Adelaide used pick 32 when he was originally drafted. I refuse to believe that he's worth a top 5 now.

Tominator

Quote from: Toga on October 30, 2012, 01:24:55 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 30, 2012, 01:15:04 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 30, 2012, 12:52:19 PM
Dees also have Jesse Hogan to come in next year... don't rule out the Dogs taking him at 5 or 6 though in the National Draft
and im sure they are spending millions to get Hogan in  ::), especially since he cant play till 2014 ::) ::)

I think tom's saying they don't need Tippett, hogan is another KF coming through.

right on the money Toga

CrowsFan

Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 30, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
Adelaide used pick 32 when he was originally drafted. I refuse to believe that he's worth a top 5 now.
Going by that logic these players also wouldn't be worth a punt in the top 5-10...

Dayne Beams - taken 29
Dane Swan - taken 58
Andrew Swallow - taken 43
Sam Jacobs - taken in rookie draft
Rory Sloane - taken 44
Taylor Walker - taken 75

Not saying all of them would go in the top 5, but they are all worth a lot more than what they were originally drafted at!

Tominator

one year the 79th pick was some guy called James Hird

tbagrocks

Quote from: CrowsFan on October 30, 2012, 02:03:33 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 30, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
Adelaide used pick 32 when he was originally drafted. I refuse to believe that he's worth a top 5 now.
Going by that logic these players also wouldn't be worth a punt in the top 5-10...

Dayne Beams - taken 29
Dane Swan - taken 58
Andrew Swallow - taken 43
Sam Jacobs - taken in rookie draft
Rory Sloane - taken 44
Taylor Walker - taken 75

Not saying all of them would go in the top 5, but they are all worth a lot more than what they were originally drafted at!
Walker was taken with a NSW shools scholarship program pick, would have been interesting to see where he may have been drafted.
And the immediate ruturn of a clunking Key Forward who can kick 50 goals is worth a top 5 pick yes ;)

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: tbagrocks on October 30, 2012, 02:49:21 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 30, 2012, 02:03:33 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 30, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
Adelaide used pick 32 when he was originally drafted. I refuse to believe that he's worth a top 5 now.
Going by that logic these players also wouldn't be worth a punt in the top 5-10...

Dayne Beams - taken 29
Dane Swan - taken 58
Andrew Swallow - taken 43
Sam Jacobs - taken in rookie draft
Rory Sloane - taken 44
Taylor Walker - taken 75

Not saying all of them would go in the top 5, but they are all worth a lot more than what they were originally drafted at!
Walker was taken with a NSW shools scholarship program pick, would have been interesting to see where he may have been drafted.
And the immediate ruturn of a clunking Key Forward who can kick 50 goals is worth a top 5 pick yes ;)

Tbag you know exactly why he was taken where he was

AFEV

Quote from: tbagrocks on October 30, 2012, 02:49:21 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 30, 2012, 02:03:33 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 30, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
Adelaide used pick 32 when he was originally drafted. I refuse to believe that he's worth a top 5 now.
Going by that logic these players also wouldn't be worth a punt in the top 5-10...

Dayne Beams - taken 29
Dane Swan - taken 58
Andrew Swallow - taken 43
Sam Jacobs - taken in rookie draft
Rory Sloane - taken 44
Taylor Walker - taken 75

Not saying all of them would go in the top 5, but they are all worth a lot more than what they were originally drafted at!
Walker was taken with a NSW shools scholarship program pick, would have been interesting to see where he may have been drafted.
And the immediate ruturn of a clunking Key Forward who can kick 50 goals is worth a top 5 pick yes ;)
He kicked 39 goals this year. In a top 4 side. He is also 25.

How exactly is he going to find this 22% improvement!?!?

Mr.Craig

Quote from: CrowsFan on October 30, 2012, 02:03:33 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 30, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
Adelaide used pick 32 when he was originally drafted. I refuse to believe that he's worth a top 5 now.
Going by that logic these players also wouldn't be worth a punt in the top 5-10...

Dayne Beams - taken 29
Dane Swan - taken 58
Andrew Swallow - taken 43
Sam Jacobs - taken in rookie draft
Rory Sloane - taken 44
Taylor Walker - taken 75

Not saying all of them would go in the top 5, but they are all worth a lot more than what they were originally drafted at!

My argument is that Kurt Tippett isn't worth a top 5 pick, not then and not now.

tbagrocks

Being hit in the head less will be a good start Sid!

Chopps

Quote from: Ziplock on October 29, 2012, 06:56:48 PM
oh I know and completely agree. I'm just saying that if tippett was to be deregistered, then logically and fairly the entire adelaide fotball club would be banned from competing since they had just asmuch, if not more, to do with it.

logically? zip that makes no sense what so ever mate. punish 37 innoncent players because of a club and players mistake?

they had more to do with it sure but again if velocity sports dont know the rules of a contract how can they be managers it would be like a lawyer not knowing the law. yes the club shouldnt ever of offered such a contract outside of the rules but they did they arent the only one responsible for signing such a contract.

adelaide doesnt give kurt the contract and say hey buddy just sign this its all good and if they do and he is silly enough to sign without sports managers or lawyers checking first he is an idiot.

Ziplock

it's not punishing the players- they still get paid by the club, and play football.

it punishes the club.

chopps- the contract itself isnt outside the rules, what's outside the rules is that it was never signed by the afl, and subsequently breached the salary cap for adelaide.

Grazz

It does punish the players, pre season will be worth nothing all their efforts for the year (2013) will be for nothing, thats punishment  not to mention the supporters that have season tickets. Punish the club fair enough indirectly that punishes everyone involved with the club wihtout hurting the innocents directly. We did the wrong thing but in terms of whats happened in the past it doesnt compare. I wish people could put their dislike for the state and the club aside and just comment on the facts without involving external emotions. 

Ziplock

im not saying they should- it would be a completely excessive punishment and shouldnt happen.

I was just saying if tippett gets deregistered, thats the type of punishment adelaide should be getting- it's the same deal.

you guys can just watch them play SANFL LO