Crows 'tamper' affair

[Tominator]

I'm fairly sure most clubs are guilty of some kind of off-contract agreement/clause for various players, its just the Crows have been caught red-handed here. Having said that, shouldn't the AFL do a search on all clubs to see if this is happening anywhere else before handing down a penalty on the Crows?

[AFEV]

I'm fairly sure most clubs are guilty of some kind of off-contract agreement/clause for various players, its just the Crows have been caught red-handed here. Having said that, shouldn't the AFL do a search on all clubs to see if this is happening anywhere else before handing down a penalty on the Crows?

I'd say other clubs do it - But I'd also say they lodge it with the AFL/AFLPA and have it approved instead of just making brown paper bag payments...

[Grazz]

Great lets go to the supreme court, its a given if you take sport into the supreme court and apply the same rules we all live under 9 times out of 10 the AFL/sporting body will loose. We all agree to play under a certain amount of guidelines imposed by the AFL that are difficult to defend in a federal court. Those that take that path i see them as weak as p**s unless there are exceptional circumstances and a glaring injustice has happened. Dont go there. He signed the contract his manager signed it, mum and dad new all about it and all knew it was wrong. If you advocate this path under these circumstances then your just as pathetic. They are all guilty as each other, all broke the same rules but as we all except from the beginning the club should suffer the most because all breaks of the law can be cut off if the club says no thats against the rules. To hell with the flack i'll cop with that but i dont care. You take this path over this situation then your a pretty weak individual and a mercenary. Go to the supreme court haha get stuffed wimp.

[Toga]

I'm fairly sure most clubs are guilty of some kind of off-contract agreement/clause for various players, its just the Crows have been caught red-handed here. Having said that, shouldn't the AFL do a search on all clubs to see if this is happening anywhere else before handing down a penalty on the Crows?

I'm sure the AFL does investigate all this stuff, there's a whole office of people that is tasked with this im pretty sure.

there definitely are third party deals going on (e.g. Chris Judd and Visy), but most of them are probably lodged with the AFL and therefore approved, nothing illegal about it.

that being said, there probably are other deals going on, but its not as if the AFL just trusts all the clubs and assumes nothings going on, they would be constantly looking at clubs' dealings to try and put a stop to it.

[Cruiseon]

Ok so here are my propsed penalties for what is clearly looking like both club & player being busted.

Player penalty - Kurt you will spend the next 24 months living in and playing for Port Adelaide.

Club penalty - All current draft picks for 2012 will be null & void and instead the Crows will be forced to re-draft Richard Tambling and Will Young.

Fair? A deterrent?

[AFEV]

Ok so here are my propsed penalties for what is clearly looking like both club & player being busted.

Player penalty - Kurt you will spend the next 24 months living in and playing for Port Adelaide.

Club penalty - All current draft picks for 2012 will be null & void and instead the Crows will be forced to re-draft Richard Tambling and Will Young.

Fair? A deterrent?

They should be drafting Jetta (Melb) as well in my opinion. It's only fair.

[Grazz]

Ok so here are my propsed penalties for what is clearly looking like both club & player being busted.

Player penalty - Kurt you will spend the next 24 months living in and playing for Port Adelaide.

Club penalty - All current draft picks for 2012 will be null & void and instead the Crows will be forced to re-draft Richard Tambling and Will Young.

Fair? A deterrent?

Bit unfair on Angus Graham cruise but im happy to wear that.

[Boomz]

A lot of other clubs probably do it but I doubt they are stupid enough to put it in writing..........

[Toga]

And the saga continues....

ADELAIDE will have to cut a wanted Crows player on Wednesday as the pain from the Kurt Tippett scandal turns to list management at West Lakes.


And the Crows will have to gamble on which player to turf into the AFL national draft pool where Adelaide may not get a call until No. 83. That gives Adelaide's 17 rivals 82 chances to claim this contracted Crow in the AFL national draft on November 22.

The main candidates remain out-of-favour midfielder Richard Tambling or any of Adelaide's recent draftees Nick Joyce, Mitch Grigg or Cam Ellis-Yolmen.

This is disappointing, it's not fair for these young blokes to have their careers flowered around by Tippett and the Crows because they failed to agree on a trade.

Source:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/adelaide-must-delist-a-wanted-man-due-to-the-kurt-tippett-saga/story-e6frf9jf-1226504878477

[Tominator]

And the saga continues....

ADELAIDE will have to cut a wanted Crows player on Wednesday as the pain from the Kurt Tippett scandal turns to list management at West Lakes.


And the Crows will have to gamble on which player to turf into the AFL national draft pool where Adelaide may not get a call until No. 83. That gives Adelaide's 17 rivals 82 chances to claim this contracted Crow in the AFL national draft on November 22.

The main candidates remain out-of-favour midfielder Richard Tambling or any of Adelaide's recent draftees Nick Joyce, Mitch Grigg or Cam Ellis-Yolmen.

This is disappointing, it's not fair for these young blokes to have their careers flowered around by Tippett and the Crows because they failed to agree on a trade.

Source:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/adelaide-must-delist-a-wanted-man-due-to-the-kurt-tippett-saga/story-e6frf9jf-1226504878477

I reckon Ellis-Yolmen or Joyce will go if Tambling doesn't... Grigg will stay though, he dominated as a junior and has the potential to be a 200-game player, he was a steal at Pick 46 and is very similar to Scott Thompson so Crows would be stupid to dump him

[DG]

Yeah i think Nick Joyce will be the one to go, but will redraft him with the 2nd pick. 3rd pick to be used on Callinan.

It is going to be horrible missing out on a potential gun at around 20 this year if we do lose our draft picks, especially as someone like Ben Kennedy or Menzel COULD be still around. At around pick 80 we are probably going to have to draft a mature age / delisted player...

[Chopps]

That Sucks for someone to lose their job because of this.  innocent third party

[tbagrocks]

That was a stupid article because no way will Grigg or Ellis Yolman be delisted. Adelaide has lost enough and with the pending drafting restrictions these two will be needed going forward, as is my boy Rory Laird!

[Ziplock]

grazz, calm your farm. I can guarentee that if you were barred from seeking employment in your occupation for a year because your employer screwed you, that you would take it to court.

[ossie85]

And the saga continues....

ADELAIDE will have to cut a wanted Crows player on Wednesday as the pain from the Kurt Tippett scandal turns to list management at West Lakes.


And the Crows will have to gamble on which player to turf into the AFL national draft pool where Adelaide may not get a call until No. 83. That gives Adelaide's 17 rivals 82 chances to claim this contracted Crow in the AFL national draft on November 22.

The main candidates remain out-of-favour midfielder Richard Tambling or any of Adelaide's recent draftees Nick Joyce, Mitch Grigg or Cam Ellis-Yolmen.

This is disappointing, it's not fair for these young blokes to have their careers flowered around by Tippett and the Crows because they failed to agree on a trade.

Source:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/adelaide-must-delist-a-wanted-man-due-to-the-kurt-tippett-saga/story-e6frf9jf-1226504878477

Lies done by the spin doctor.

It was going to be Tippett for Pick + Jesse White

If they got in Jesse White, they would have to delist someone anyway.

If they wanted to use all there picks, they would have to delist TWO people.