Best 22 2013

[Jroo]

Here's something to talk about.

Richmond is set to sit out the pre-season draft and instead choose to enter next year with 38 players on its senior list and six rookies.

Also, we're apparently going to reselect Addam Maric as a rookie.

the Tigers could consider giving forward Addam Maric another shot on the rookie list.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2012-12-06/clubs-shy-away-from-psd

The article from which I got both quotes.

Would rather we gave someone else a second chance rather than Maric. Hopefully he stands up, he's been Delsited twice now. And how good was his tackle on Goddard against the Sains this year, turned the game around!
It would be good have 6 or 7 rookies fighting over who gets on the senior list. There will be two spots up for grabs so can only see it as a good thing.

[Nige]

Here's something to talk about.

Richmond is set to sit out the pre-season draft and instead choose to enter next year with 38 players on its senior list and six rookies.

Also, we're apparently going to reselect Addam Maric as a rookie.

the Tigers could consider giving forward Addam Maric another shot on the rookie list.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2012-12-06/clubs-shy-away-from-psd

The article from which I got both quotes.

Would rather we gave someone else a second chance rather than Maric. Hopefully he stands up, he's been Delsited twice now. And how good was his tackle on Goddard against the Sains this year, turned the game around!
It would be good have 6 or 7 rookies fighting over who gets on the senior list. There will be two spots up for grabs so can only see it as a good thing.

Could be given to someone else, but he'll be on the rookie list and it's clearly no biggie. Yeah, having two spots can only be a good thing, just hope the right two people get the spots when the time comes. I guess I'm just really surprised we didn't opt for Wood or Stephenson.

[Jroo]

Here's something to talk about.

Richmond is set to sit out the pre-season draft and instead choose to enter next year with 38 players on its senior list and six rookies.

Also, we're apparently going to reselect Addam Maric as a rookie.

the Tigers could consider giving forward Addam Maric another shot on the rookie list.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2012-12-06/clubs-shy-away-from-psd

The article from which I got both quotes.

Would rather we gave someone else a second chance rather than Maric. Hopefully he stands up, he's been Delsited twice now. And how good was his tackle on Goddard against the Sains this year, turned the game around!
It would be good have 6 or 7 rookies fighting over who gets on the senior list. There will be two spots up for grabs so can only see it as a good thing.

Could be given to someone else, but he'll be on the rookie list and it's clearly no biggie. Yeah, having two spots can only be a good thing, just hope the right two people get the spots when the time comes. I guess I'm just really surprised we didn't opt for Wood or Stephenson.

I reckon we will rookie one of them. Would be happy with Toy, but have heard some people say he could go undrafted

[quinny88]

Wood is a must. It cant be left to Vickery and Derickx if Ivan is to go down injured.
Would't bother with little Maric.

[Jroo]

We might take The Big O in the PS draft

Richmond is believed to be prepared to use its fifth selection on discarded Geelong ruckman Orren Stephenson

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/fremantle-the-kurt-tippett-wildcard-in-afl-pre-season-draft/story-e6frf9jf-1226532096957?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HeraldSunAfl+%28Herald+Sun+%7C+AFL%29

[Nige]

Wood or Orren? I'd prefer the former even though I once voiced my dislike for him.

[Toga]

Wood or Orren? I'd prefer the former even though I once voiced my dislike for him.

Stephenson, really? ???

That seems a bit stupid to me, unless we are in a position to grab another quality ruckman next year, or Derickx is looking really promising to the club's officials. He's 30, will probably only last a year, whereas Wood could last up to 6 or 7.

Don't think it'd be a good move by the club to pick him up imo.

[Jroo]

Wood or Orren? I'd prefer the former even though I once voiced my dislike for him.

Stephenson, really? ???

That seems a bit stupid to me, unless we are in a position to grab another quality ruckman next year, or Derickx is looking really promising to the club's officials. He's 30, will probably only last a year, whereas Wood could last up to 6 or 7.

Don't think it'd be a good move by the club to pick him up imo.

We only need him for a year or two. Not the worst move imo.
In two to three years McBan and Elton will be ready to step up

[Nige]

Wood or Orren? I'd prefer the former even though I once voiced my dislike for him.

Stephenson, really? ???

That seems a bit stupid to me, unless we are in a position to grab another quality ruckman next year, or Derickx is looking really promising to the club's officials. He's 30, will probably only last a year, whereas Wood could last up to 6 or 7.

Don't think it'd be a good move by the club to pick him up imo.

We only need him for a year or two. Not the worst move imo.
In two to three years McBan and Elton will be ready to step up

The only other ruck option we have that I rate is Derickx. He could be something. I don't see anything in Elton. I have a soft spot for McBean because he has a cool name though.

[Jroo]

Wood or Orren? I'd prefer the former even though I once voiced my dislike for him.

Stephenson, really? ???

That seems a bit stupid to me, unless we are in a position to grab another quality ruckman next year, or Derickx is looking really promising to the club's officials. He's 30, will probably only last a year, whereas Wood could last up to 6 or 7.

Don't think it'd be a good move by the club to pick him up imo.

We only need him for a year or two. Not the worst move imo.
In two to three years McBan and Elton will be ready to step up

The only other ruck option we have that I rate is Derickx. He could be something. I don't see anything in Elton. I have a soft spot for McBean because he has a cool name though.

Give Elton 2-3 years, he wil be a gun. Would have been a top 10 pick in 2011, but was stung by a spider or something and was in hospital, I think before the Under 18 championship. He performed badly, making him slip down the draft order, but I was happy with him at pick 26. He has a very light frame and needs to bulk up before he can play at AFL level. Don't know why we played him this year, he just isn't ready as yet but he will be a player. I don't really rate Derickx as the first ruckmen and we need Orren badly just incase

[Nige]

Wood or Orren? I'd prefer the former even though I once voiced my dislike for him.

Stephenson, really? ???

That seems a bit stupid to me, unless we are in a position to grab another quality ruckman next year, or Derickx is looking really promising to the club's officials. He's 30, will probably only last a year, whereas Wood could last up to 6 or 7.

Don't think it'd be a good move by the club to pick him up imo.

We only need him for a year or two. Not the worst move imo.
In two to three years McBan and Elton will be ready to step up

The only other ruck option we have that I rate is Derickx. He could be something. I don't see anything in Elton. I have a soft spot for McBean because he has a cool name though.

Give Elton 2-3 years, he wil be a gun. Would have been a top 10 pick in 2011, but was stung by a spider or something and was in hospital, I think before the Under 18 championship. He performed badly, making him slip down the draft order, but I was happy with him at pick 26. He has a very light frame and needs to bulk up before he can play at AFL level. Don't know why we played him this year, he just isn't ready as yet but he will be a player. I don't really rate Derickx as the first ruckmen and we need Orren badly just incase

I still would prefer Wood, he has more years in him which is handy in case Elton and McBean don't come along as planned.

At this stage, to rank the ruck stocks it'd be: Ivan, Vicks, Derickx, Elton, McBean.

However, Vicks should be a forward and if your drop him out of those rankings. Derickx is next best behind Ivan. So yes, we do need a back up but it's whether we go for a short term option in Wood or an even shorter term option in Orren. Still probably should have looked at Seaby though... ::)

[Toga]

That's true Jroo, i forgot about those young blokes. And I guess if we can develop McBean enough over the time before Orren retires then it wouldn't be too bad a move.

I really rate Elton as well, but agreed that he still has a lot of development to go before he realises his potential, but even so, he's the same as Vicks in the sense that he is more of a tall forward target who can pinch hit rather than a full time ruckman.

[Jroo]

That's true Jroo, i forgot about those young blokes. And I guess if we can develop McBean enough over the time before Orren retires then it wouldn't be too bad a move.

I really rate Elton as well, but agreed that he still has a lot of development to go before he realises his potential, but even so, he's the same as Vicks in the sense that he is more of a tall forward target who can pinch hit rather than a full time ruckman.

Yeah it always takes ruckmen a 4-5 years to start playing well at AFL level. Jacobs, Leuneberger, Kreuzer, Bellchambers, West, Giles, Goldstein, MvEcoy, Nic Nat are some of examples of this, they didn't do much early in there career but after a few years of developemtm have devolved into good ruckmen.

[quinny88]

Wood is younger than Orren and more importantly he's just a better footballer. Think we should definitely get him.
Not sure that Elton will ever be a Ruckman, looks more suited to a CHF, pinch hit in the ruck role. He will be a player good though definitely, Ive seen a fair bit of him. He wasn't given much of a chance in 2012, played one game on Rutten in Adelaide. Pretty tough way to start your career.
Derickx im not sure about. He isn't a kid so he needed to make an impact right from the start when given the chance and to be honest I was less than inspired with the games he played for us. He will need to really go up a level this year.
McBean will hopefully be a player but there is no way he's playing for at least 2 years. He is the skinniest guy I can ever recall seeing on an AFL list to be honest. And that leaves us with Vickery who isn't a ruckmans ass. He can offer some relief for a tiring ruckman but thats about it, hes a forward. 

[Jroo]

Wood is younger than Orren and more importantly he's just a better footballer. Think we should definitely get him.
Not sure that Elton will ever be a Ruckman, looks more suited to a CHF, pinch hit in the ruck role. He will be a player good though definitely, Ive seen a fair bit of him. He wasn't given much of a chance in 2012, played one game on Rutten in Adelaide. Pretty tough way to start your career.
Derickx im not sure about. He isn't a kid so he needed to make an impact right from the start when given the chance and to be honest I was less than inspired with the games he played for us. He will need to really go up a level this year.
McBean will hopefully be a player but there is no way he's playing for at least 2 years. He is the skinniest guy I can ever recall seeing on an AFL list to be honest. And that leaves us with Vickery who isn't a ruckmans ass. He can offer some relief for a tiring ruckman but thats about it, hes a forward.

Yeah I would rather Wood over Orren myself due to age and Wood could become a good footballer, because he was rated pretty highly when he was younger.