Re: WXV Trade Confirmation Thread & Final Draft Order

Started by Purple 77, September 02, 2012, 09:11:15 PM

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c4v3m4n

If you go for the 4-2 method, you'll be letting in a lot more unfair trades IMO. Thats what we dont want. ::)

If people have seen a problem with the trade, then there is a problem. Simple as that.

What happens if 11 coaches see a problem with a trade, yet the voting is 8-3? The vote passes, yet 11 coaches have voted against it. :-X

Keep it simple, if 6 coaches say no, then the trade shouldn't be allowed through. Not like many have been vetoed anyway. :)

AFEV

Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 25, 2012, 02:57:38 PM
If you go for the 4-2 method, you'll be letting in a lot more unfair trades IMO. Thats what we dont want. ::)

If people have seen a problem with the trade, then there is a problem. Simple as that.

What happens if 11 coaches see a problem with a trade, yet the voting is 8-3? The vote passes, yet 11 coaches have voted against it. :-X

Keep it simple, if 6 coaches say no, then the trade shouldn't be allowed through. Not like many have been vetoed anyway. :)
Agree with this entirely.

If 6+ coaches think a trade is unfair it should be blocked regardless of which club they think benefits more. The bottom line is 6 coaches object to the trade. As long as the reasons are all acceptable (which is for Os to decide) he trade shouldn't pass.

ossie85


I'll raise this concern though

If person X and person Y propose a trade, and 3 people vote one way, and 3 the other way.

What are person X and person Y to do? If they want to renegotiate they won't know if they are meant to offer more or less

Nails

If 3 think one team gets the advantage

but 3 think the other team gets the advantage...

Clearly the advantage isn't glaringly in favour of one team. Trades can be partially unfair, just not glaringly unfair, which a lot of coaches seem to have forgotten.

- Ossie kinda beat me to it.... well the 3/3 part.

Purple 77

I think if 6 coaches have a problem, then I think the trade shouldn't go through regardless

Boomz

6 votes = Negged regardless of which way people are saying IMO. Saw this coming...

ossie85

Quote from: Boomz on September 25, 2012, 04:27:33 PM
6 votes = Negged regardless of which way people are saying IMO. Saw this coming...

Sorry Boomz, don't remember you posting that! If I saw it, would have asked earlier.

Justin Bieber

Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 03:07:22 PM
I'll raise this concern though

If person X and person Y propose a trade, and 3 people vote one way, and 3 the other way.

What are person X and person Y to do? If they want to renegotiate they won't know if they are meant to offer more or less
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 25, 2012, 03:49:18 PM
I think if 6 coaches have a problem, then I think the trade shouldn't go through regardless

I think I know the trade obviously :P. I would agree that it shouldn't go through if 6 neg it, however, where does that leave renegotiations to go as people will always see it unfair from one side or another? Leaves very little room to try and work out a deal if that's the case :-\. As we don't know who is giving more if other coaches are contradicting other's reasons, will be very hard to work out a deal that everybody will be happy to pass...

Boomz

Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: Boomz on September 25, 2012, 04:27:33 PM
6 votes = Negged regardless of which way people are saying IMO. Saw this coming...

Sorry Boomz, don't remember you posting that! If I saw it, would have asked earlier.

Nah only saw it coming this week of trades so didn't think to post it :P Not surprised if it's the trade I'm thinking though after having seen how some people rate players in this.

Nails

It has already happened IIRC...

Pretty sure the trade between Maca and I had contradictory negs.

Maca24

Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
It has already happened IIRC...

Pretty sure the trade between Maca and I had contradictory negs.
That's correct. We couldn't re-negotiate really. Seems the same has happened to you and HP.

I think the rule should stay though. Obviously the trade sucks for both parties and it is in both of your best interests that it doesn't go through.

Nails

Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
It has already happened IIRC...

Pretty sure the trade between Maca and I had contradictory negs.
That's correct. We couldn't re-negotiate really. Seems the same has happened to you and HP.

I think the rule should stay though. Obviously the trade sucks for both parties and it is in both of your best interests that it doesn't go through.

It doesn't suck for both of us though...
Gives HP his future players that he's after, and gives me the guns I need now. It's good for both sides involved.

Maca24

Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:19:08 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
It has already happened IIRC...

Pretty sure the trade between Maca and I had contradictory negs.
That's correct. We couldn't re-negotiate really. Seems the same has happened to you and HP.

I think the rule should stay though. Obviously the trade sucks for both parties and it is in both of your best interests that it doesn't go through.

It doesn't suck for both of us though...
Gives HP his future players that he's after, and gives me the guns I need now. It's good for both sides involved.
It has you giving up your whole younger brigade + depth and it has HP losing two of his absolute guns for young players that IMO aren't of that much quality.

You lose all your depth while HP loses his two highest scoring forwards.

Justin Bieber

Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:19:08 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
It has already happened IIRC...

Pretty sure the trade between Maca and I had contradictory negs.
That's correct. We couldn't re-negotiate really. Seems the same has happened to you and HP.

I think the rule should stay though. Obviously the trade sucks for both parties and it is in both of your best interests that it doesn't go through.

It doesn't suck for both of us though...
Gives HP his future players that he's after, and gives me the guns I need now. It's good for both sides involved.
It has you giving up your whole younger brigade + depth and it has HP losing two of his absolute guns for young players that IMO aren't of that much quality.

You lose all your depth while HP loses his two highest scoring forwards.
Correction 2/3 of my highest scoring forwards :P.

Nails

Teams should be allowed to go for a future focus....

Therefore trading out 2 OLD, on the verge of retirement forwards for younger players who still/will average 80-90 and have room for improvement should be a GOOD thing, not a BAD thing.

He and Daz aren't tanking as it's not like they're replacing w/ 50 ave fwds... They're also getting good back ups and future players.

It also helps my, "my chance is here and now" stance... If the trade gets blocked it greatly assists HP and I back to mediocrity :(