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Started by stew42, September 26, 2012, 02:17:10 AM

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stew42


Capper

atleast he bounced the ball unlike Nic Nats behind of the century

Sliam

Hey the umpires made another wrong decison.

Ray Chamberlain isnt even back yet  8)

Ziplock

Quote from: tabs on September 26, 2012, 02:23:50 AM
atleast he bounced the ball unlike Nic Nats behind of the century

nic nats point was fine, the handball still counts as though he has control, but where he taps it counts as if he's lost control and his 15 starts again. I was actually watching on the day for jettas bounces, and I thought he was ok, but in hindsights as they said, obviously not.

Capper

Quote from: Ziplock on September 26, 2012, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 26, 2012, 02:23:50 AM
atleast he bounced the ball unlike Nic Nats behind of the century

nic nats point was fine, the handball still counts as though he has control, but where he taps it counts as if he's lost control and his 15 starts again. I was actually watching on the day for jettas bounces, and I thought he was ok, but in hindsights as they said, obviously not.
he had pocession of the ball the whole time without anyone else touching it......

They seem to relax the rules for the superstars

Ziplock

last time I checked a 'tap' doesn't count as a possession.

Fireballz

I think fresh was spot on here. Clearly ran too far but glad the ump had a sense of occasion to let it slide. By the time jetta would have heard the whistle he'd be at the other end of the ground!

ossie85

Quote from: Fireballz on September 26, 2012, 02:54:21 PM
I think fresh was spot on here. Clearly ran too far but glad the ump had a sense of occasion to let it slide. By the time jetta would have heard the whistle he'd be at the other end of the ground!

Said in another thread, but this is ridicolous logic. We look at millimetres when determing whether a ball has been touched, is just over the line or just scraped the post - yet when a person runs 5 metres over we say 'fair enough'

I thought the whole point of this rule was so that people wouldn't turn the game into Rugby.

Brilliant? yes. But he didn't do it correctly. If that was the winning goal in the grand final, the hell would be massive for ever.

Fireballz

Quote from: ossie85 on September 26, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
Quote from: Fireballz on September 26, 2012, 02:54:21 PM
I think fresh was spot on here. Clearly ran too far but glad the ump had a sense of occasion to let it slide. By the time jetta would have heard the whistle he'd be at the other end of the ground!

Said in another thread, but this is ridicolous logic. We look at millimetres when determing whether a ball has been touched, is just over the line or just scraped the post - yet when a person runs 5 metres over we say 'fair enough'

I thought the whole point of this rule was so that people wouldn't turn the game into Rugby.

Brilliant? yes. But he didn't do it correctly. If that was the winning goal in the grand final, the hell would be massive for ever.
Fully agree os. I'm saying as a swans supporter I'm glad he didn't get pulled up but in future if he doesn't bounce it every 15m then it should be a free kick against.

Ziplock

Quote from: ossie85 on September 26, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
Quote from: Fireballz on September 26, 2012, 02:54:21 PM
I think fresh was spot on here. Clearly ran too far but glad the ump had a sense of occasion to let it slide. By the time jetta would have heard the whistle he'd be at the other end of the ground!

Said in another thread, but this is ridicolous logic. We look at millimetres when determing whether a ball has been touched, is just over the line or just scraped the post - yet when a person runs 5 metres over we say 'fair enough'

I thought the whole point of this rule was so that people wouldn't turn the game into Rugby.

Brilliant? yes. But he didn't do it correctly. If that was the winning goal in the grand final, the hell would be massive for ever.

the thing is we have a line on the goals to define those mm- there isn't similar markings etc. on the rest of the field, hence why 5m can be overlooked accidentally. It's like marking- the marker is given benefit of the doubt, even when sometimes you look at it and go- that was barely even 10...

that being said, im sure longmire's had a chat to jetta, and the umps will be watching out in the GF to make sure he doesn't accidentally circumvent the rule- funny thing is he had more than enough room from brown to make that extra bounce lol.

Justin Bieber

I didn't even notice when I was watching. I was watching the great effort by Nathan Brown. (no sarcasm)

Ziplock

yeah, same. When watching it didn't look obvious that it was over 15m.

Sliam

Quote from: Ziplock on September 26, 2012, 03:44:21 PM
yeah, same. When watching it didn't look obvious that it was over 15m.

This

Plus I doubt the umpire kept up a count after he passed the 50 lol.

I'm sure I could point out hundreds of situations where umpires have got this wrong over the 2012 season but the way Sydney played (I gather) it really made no difference

Capper

Quote from: Ziplock on September 26, 2012, 02:08:29 PM
last time I checked a 'tap' doesn't count as a possession.
so does that mena when you are running you can throw the ball in the air and tap it and you dont need to bounce it.

The ball didnt touch the ground or any one else when he kicked the point.

Buddy's run up is the other obvious one

Ziplock

I *think* throwing it in the air would constitute as a throw. I'm no even sure if you hand pass it and tap it like nic nat did, all I remember was that I watched the review thing by Gieschen that week, and he explained it. I can't remember if it was the tap that was legal, or if it was just deemed that he didn't have control of the ball when he tapped it.... I just watched the video a couple of times, and I really don't think he did have full control of that