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Started by Colliwobblers, September 18, 2012, 10:40:49 PM

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Adamant

Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:29:39 PM
LOLOLOL Adam, you traded out Lewis and destroyed your team Walker is shower

Walker averages around 106 once you take his sub game out

Lewis averaged 119

Therefore 13ppg loss from Lewis > Walker....

Broughton is a simple 104 ave defender... Considering Brennan had a poor year

Brennan = Broughton

Lewis 10x greater than Walker

Lester > Shaw

How does that help your premiership hopes? It doesn't at all.

Walker is far from shower, he'll go 110-115+ under Mick.

Broughton had a shower year as well, he'll be around the 115 mark too.

This also gives me better flexibilty and depth with Broughton's DPP.

I don't rate Lester and couldn't care less about trading him for Shaw. Much of a muchness IMO.

Seriously, I really can't be bothered arguing anymore. Have fun with your pathetic backline and midfield.

BB67th

Quote from: JROO8 on February 15, 2013, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:31:33 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)

Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a

KoopKicka Gives Chris Masten + Jarryd Blair

JBsHawks Gives Stephen Motlop + Kieran Harper

If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.

And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.

I pmed Coli the trade but yes confirmed.

APPROVED

I approve this with great reluctance, my reasons are as follows...

1. both parties are very happy with the trade and insist on wanting it.

2. the players being traded favour one side, however not by SO MAY points as to give the trade winning team an unfair advantage over other teams.

( this because masten and blair and certainly NOT premiums, they are clearly a level below premium especially masten as he is mid only)

Not to the rest of the teams I passed it reluctantly but in fairness to these two teams, the rules WERE NEVER that a trade had to be even, and to pass other uneven trades and not this one would be unfair.

the rules are RIDICULOUS UNEVEN, AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.

i think this falls short in both categories JUST !

That's like a 60ppg advantage... That's like a 4% bonus to some teams. HUGELY unfair and ridiculous imo. I vote to veto/get this trade reviewd (we can do this can't we?)

It's 2 spuds at the same age as 2 guns. It's hugely unfair Colli.
Yeah JB wins massively there. Nothing we can do really now that Colli has approved it.

I think that this trade is ridiculously uneven. I mean you are trading two young guns for two players who might have some potential who are each a year younger. Really I don't know what the unfair trade rule is in for if trades like this still get passed....

Nails

Quote from: BB67th on February 15, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 15, 2013, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:31:33 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)

Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a

KoopKicka Gives Chris Masten + Jarryd Blair

JBsHawks Gives Stephen Motlop + Kieran Harper

If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.

And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.

I pmed Coli the trade but yes confirmed.

APPROVED

I approve this with great reluctance, my reasons are as follows...

1. both parties are very happy with the trade and insist on wanting it.

2. the players being traded favour one side, however not by SO MAY points as to give the trade winning team an unfair advantage over other teams.

( this because masten and blair and certainly NOT premiums, they are clearly a level below premium especially masten as he is mid only)

Not to the rest of the teams I passed it reluctantly but in fairness to these two teams, the rules WERE NEVER that a trade had to be even, and to pass other uneven trades and not this one would be unfair.

the rules are RIDICULOUS UNEVEN, AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.

i think this falls short in both categories JUST !

That's like a 60ppg advantage... That's like a 4% bonus to some teams. HUGELY unfair and ridiculous imo. I vote to veto/get this trade reviewd (we can do this can't we?)

It's 2 spuds at the same age as 2 guns. It's hugely unfair Colli.
Yeah JB wins massively there. Nothing we can do really now that Colli has approved it.

I think that this trade is ridiculously uneven. I mean you are trading two young guns for two players who might have some potential who are each a year younger. Really I don't know what the unfair trade rule is in for if trades like this still get passed....

TWO young guns  who have shown they are guns for two players pretty much who haven't shown much of anything at pretty much the same age. Ridiculous. It's like trading Rockliff and Redden for 2 blokes drafted 2 seasons ago who MIGHT be good

Any player in the AFL MIGHT be good. But they've haven't shown it and there's no reason for such a stupid trade.

JBs-Hawks

Quit your whinging it was the Eskimoes that wanted the trade, theyve identified the talent and acted apon. Not like the Ales are a threat anyway ;)

Nails

Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:29:39 PM
LOLOLOL Adam, you traded out Lewis and destroyed your team Walker is shower

Walker averages around 106 once you take his sub game out

Lewis averaged 119

Therefore 13ppg loss from Lewis > Walker....

Broughton is a simple 104 ave defender... Considering Brennan had a poor year

Brennan = Broughton

Lewis 10x greater than Walker

Lester > Shaw

How does that help your premiership hopes? It doesn't at all.

Walker is far from shower, he'll go 110-115+ under Mick.

Broughton had a shower year as well, he'll be around the 115 mark too.

This also gives me better flexibilty and depth with Broughton's DPP.

I don't rate Lester and couldn't care less about trading him for Shaw. Much of a muchness IMO.

Seriously, I really can't be bothered arguing anymore. Have fun with your pathetic backline and midfield.

You seem to think every player who has a bad season will improve... Have you not heard of just being bad or having one good season? There's no guarantee Broughton will be better than last year.

Players can have /bad/ seasons but they're not really bad. It's just how they are now.

Overall your team (based roughly on 2012 predictions) now averages less.

Nails

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 06:42:15 PM
Quit your whinging it was the Eskimoes that wanted the trade, theyve identified the talent and acted apon. Not like the Ales are a threat anyway ;)

But it's a ridiculous trade.

If Jukes was Coach he'd trade you Swan, Ablett and Pedles for Stanton and 2 average blokes

Just because a team wants a player and overpays huge doesn't mean it can't be ridiculously unfair.

Colliwobblers

a 30 point per game avarage is not ridiculous uneven in sportsbet when talking about a mid and a fwd.

swan at 150 for masten at 105 would be ridiculously uneven

not masten at 105 for harper at 75


as i said it is right on the limit, but the truth is masten and blair are not premiums if they are pick them for  your DT and SC teams....

this is one of the FACTS that got the trade through. motlop WILL improve and so WILL harper, blair and masten won't much if at all, so that 30 point a game differential should be less by the end of 2013 making the trade more even in reality.

@ Nails I don't agree with the trade either but your comparison is ridiculous, Rocky and Redden are the same as masten and blair now are they ?

JBs-Hawks

So then if it was blocked and harper and motlop became jets, what would you have to say? Have you even watched them play before they are both going to be stars, class oozes through eachs veins.

KoopKicka

Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:43:46 PM
a 30 point per game avarage is not ridiculous uneven in sportsbet when talking about a mid and a fwd.

swan at 150 for masten at 105 would be ridiculously uneven

not masten at 105 for harper at 75


as i said it is right on the limit, but the truth is masten and blair are not premiums if they are pick them for  your DT and SC teams....

this is one of the FACTS that got the trade through. motlop WILL improve and so WILL harper, blair and masten won't much if at all, so that 30 point a game differential should be less by the end of 2013 making the trade more even in reality.

@ Nails I don't agree with the trade either but your comparison is ridiculous, Rocky and Redden are the same as masten and blair now are they ?


We at the Eskimos feel Steven Motlop is a long term prospect who, along with Hibberd, will become the foundations for our backline for years to come. (Once Motlop gets that) We also feel Harper is a long term prospect as key forwards are gold in this gme and they often take longer to mature. Masten we feel will stagnate this year with Wellingham and the return of Embley and Blair will the arrival of Clinton Young and return of Ball, and Collingwoods new playing style.

Adamant

Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:42:26 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:29:39 PM
LOLOLOL Adam, you traded out Lewis and destroyed your team Walker is shower

Walker averages around 106 once you take his sub game out

Lewis averaged 119

Therefore 13ppg loss from Lewis > Walker....

Broughton is a simple 104 ave defender... Considering Brennan had a poor year

Brennan = Broughton

Lewis 10x greater than Walker

Lester > Shaw

How does that help your premiership hopes? It doesn't at all.

Walker is far from shower, he'll go 110-115+ under Mick.

Broughton had a shower year as well, he'll be around the 115 mark too.

This also gives me better flexibilty and depth with Broughton's DPP.

I don't rate Lester and couldn't care less about trading him for Shaw. Much of a muchness IMO.

Seriously, I really can't be bothered arguing anymore. Have fun with your pathetic backline and midfield.

You seem to think every player who has a bad season will improve... Have you not heard of just being bad or having one good season? There's no guarantee Broughton will be better than last year.

Players can have /bad/ seasons but they're not really bad. It's just how they are now.

Overall your team (based roughly on 2012 predictions) now averages less.

2012 averages are irrelevant. Fyfe averaged only 117 last year ffs. ::)

How have my latest trades affected my average anyway?

OUT: Mundy, Wellingham, Brennan, Lewis, Lester

IN: Boyd, Harvey, Broughton, Walker, M.Shaw

It's actually improved it greatly. ???


Nails

Blair 104 vs. Harper 70 = 34 advantage

Masten 113 vs. Motlop 81 = 32 point advantage

= 66 points gained 2 player vs. 2 player

So basically the team gaining Blair and Masten don't even lose Harper because they gain 66 points (4 short of Harper's) average in this trade.

Nails

The Boyd trade helped a lot

But the other trade caused you to decline a lot IMO.

Brennan = Broughton

Lewis 10x greater than Walker, you can't deny that. Lewis is easily better than Walker

Jroo

Anyone interested in Luke Hodge?
Looking for someone slightly younger

Adamant

Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:53:48 PM
The Boyd trade helped a lot

But the other trade caused you to decline a lot IMO.

Brennan = Broughton

Lewis 10x greater than Walker, you can't deny that. Lewis is easily better than Walker

I definitley agree that Lewis is much better than Walker, but Broughton is easily better than Brennan.

His DPP is so valuable too, especially with Boomer missing the first 6 weeks...

Can we now stop the arguing on who's team is better, etc and let the season do the talking?

Nails

But the season is so far away, we need to argue, we're rivals ;)

Need something to do in between. Becoming one of FF's fiercest XVs rivalries. I need something to do Adam, don't deny me of it :-X