DPP possibility polls - Tom Rockliff

Started by DT-SC, September 15, 2012, 06:45:02 PM

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Will he?

Yes
No

Adamant

Quote from: Toga on October 29, 2012, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Barra on October 29, 2012, 07:18:36 PM
Yeah that was me. Just the sheer build and the skills he has, I see him getting put straight in the mids.

So someone will have to miss out... Black/Redden/Rich/Rocky....

I could see Rich being used of a HBF with the kicking skills he has... and Blacky's getting older... But there is the possiblity it would be rocky being stuck up at FF again..

Although as Strikes said, what does Stef Martin's inclusion mean that that won't be necessary?

Gah this is putting doubt in my mind :(

Meh, even if he is stuck at FF (like this year) he will still avg 90 which is good for a forward.

Toga

Quote from: Adamant on October 29, 2012, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 29, 2012, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Barra on October 29, 2012, 07:18:36 PM
Yeah that was me. Just the sheer build and the skills he has, I see him getting put straight in the mids.

So someone will have to miss out... Black/Redden/Rich/Rocky....

I could see Rich being used of a HBF with the kicking skills he has... and Blacky's getting older... But there is the possiblity it would be rocky being stuck up at FF again..

Although as Strikes said, what does Stef Martin's inclusion mean that that won't be necessary?

Gah this is putting doubt in my mind :(

Meh, even if he is stuck at FF (like this year) he will still avg 90 which is good for a forward.

that's true haha, enough of this talk lets just lock him in :P

DT Gun

Rocky hyper extended his knee in the middle of the year and he played a lot forward after..

But he also played a bit forward before..

Cant decide if he played more forward cos of a sore knee or position change..

I know he had it heavily strapped every week after he did it, which means he tempts me

Shihan7

If he isn't DPP, im actually slightly tempted to start him as M4 :o Brissy have a decent draw, and Rocky should go back to 110+ if Voss plays him in the mids. Of course, will need to see where he is played in NAB first.

Ricochet

Quote from: Shihan7 on November 13, 2012, 08:06:00 PM
If he isn't DPP, im actually slightly tempted to start him as M4 :o Brissy have a decent draw, and Rocky should go back to 110+ if Voss plays him in the mids. Of course, will need to see where he is played in NAB first.
a big IF there mate

underdog11

This is unbelievable that this is even a debate. 100%, HE WILL 100% BE DPP. If bocks a b/f broughton b/f hartlett b/c bartel going to be c/f. Who in there right mind could not understand that he will be. Monty has completly dropped the ball on this one

stew42

Quote from: underdog11 on November 14, 2012, 12:11:02 PM
This is unbelievable that this is even a debate. 100%, HE WILL 100% BE DPP. If bocks a b/f broughton b/f hartlett b/c bartel going to be c/f. Who in there right mind could not understand that he will be. Monty has completly dropped the ball on this one
Not good enough evidence mate, I won't even pencil him in unless I hear from the DT Gods that this is definitely the case.

underdog11

If he isnt DPP its a disgrace, he is like the definiton of a c/f

Toga

Quote from: stew42 on November 14, 2012, 12:31:30 PM
Quote from: underdog11 on November 14, 2012, 12:11:02 PM
This is unbelievable that this is even a debate. 100%, HE WILL 100% BE DPP. If bocks a b/f broughton b/f hartlett b/c bartel going to be c/f. Who in there right mind could not understand that he will be. Monty has completly dropped the ball on this one
Not good enough evidence mate, I won't even pencil him in unless I hear from the DT Gods that this is definitely the case.

+1 we all know he should get it but VS won't give every man and his dog DPP unfortunately

elephants

Must get it. Doesn't mean he will though :-\

Shihan7

Quote from: Ricochet on November 14, 2012, 11:28:39 AM
Quote from: Shihan7 on November 13, 2012, 08:06:00 PM
If he isn't DPP, im actually slightly tempted to start him as M4 :o Brissy have a decent draw, and Rocky should go back to 110+ if Voss plays him in the mids. Of course, will need to see where he is played in NAB first.
a big IF there mate
Yeah, it is.

Nails

If he isn't DPP he'll be pure forward anyway

played more time forward than in the mids imo  :-X

Some of you are incorrect with things you say...

"Champion Data won't do this because too many players will select them"

They don't do that with positions, as said it's all statistics based. Colli's argument = Gibbs was changed to pure mid... That's because he played pure mid in 2011.

If it was because players were too popular Goddard wouldn't have been DPP like 100 seasons running, he would've been most picked player over last 5 years IMO.

Rockliff WILL be DPP or pure forward, definitely not pure mid.

Also another to look out for... Pearce Hanley M/D ?

One thing Champion Data does do however to make sure not every man and his dog selects players is not apply discounts to every player who misses games. I forgot who it was, but he missed a bunch of games through injury and if he had the proper discount applied would have been in 100% of teams...

DT Talk said how they had input when VS/CData asked them about it and said that they shouldn't apply the full discount to that player because every player would select them...

As a result he didn't get the full discount that player who missed exact same game numbers did.

Speculator

I find it interesting that fantasy coaches actually want rockliff to be DPP. Wouldn't it be better if he was mid only therefore increasing the uniqueness of teams? I was staggered last year when everyone got upset because Gibbs lost DPP. It was fantastic. It meant that 100% of teams had only Goddard and Deledio in their backlines instead of Goddard, Deledio AND Gibbs. The less no-brainer selections the better.

Barra17

#43
^I like this guy.

No homo.

KingJB

Either way he is going to be the steal of the year! He will be back in the Mid now with lions going out to secure Martin to play the other marking forward sending merret back and also having staker back as the 3rd option! Moloney is in to give Blacky a chop out and IMO you can be expecting some big scores like the Rocky of old with Leuy also back in the ruck!