British 15's Official Trade period 1 thread

Started by MTTY, September 02, 2012, 12:10:57 PM

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Ricochet


Fletch74

Quote from: Ricochet on November 06, 2012, 02:33:32 PM
wow Fletch, that is unlucky mate
TBH, I didn't know I'd lost some of those players like Garlett, Bower, and Djerrkura for instance. They are the breaks I guess.

Hopefully, some of them get picked up, like Gram for instance. He's a killer >:( and a stalker :P

Ringo

Yea Fletch a few surprises for me as well as I was compiling the list. But as you say them the breaks. Also as I stated convinced me that the final draft order should be in order picked as it is the fairest system.  In your case you would not want a late pick for a player you picked at 144 in the Draft.

Spinking

Thanks heaps for doing all that work Ringo!  I do agree that we should implement a compensation system, and most seem in favour of that.  I'll throw some rules together and see what the populous think.. :)

Justin Bieber


picker_man

Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 06, 2012, 02:29:19 PM
woah 0 delistings for me.
+1 :)

Really surprised buckley & collins were delisted i wanted both those guys. And Piers was the man!

Colliwobblers

yeah i had a few too, I agree picks should be in order of when delisted/retired players were taken in the initial draft. as in Ringo's list should be the order.

need to just update list after AFL preseason draft, and BEFORE british rookie/preseason draft, getting everyones preferences whether to delist or keep players who DO get picked up by other clubs in the AFL preseason draft.

with the british draft starting straight after the afl draft going to have to get everyone to tell spinking what they want to do with any RE-LISTED players before we get to the last round of the british draft or ?

Ringo

My thoughts on this are any players that are reselected by other teams are retained by current owners and deleted from list. We should only have the comp picks for players no longer playing in the AFL. My opinion only, based on the fact that we have just drafted our teams so any players still playing should be retained.

Fletch74

Quote from: Ringo on November 12, 2012, 07:50:04 AM
My thoughts on this are any players that are reselected by other teams are retained by current owners and deleted from list. We should only have the comp picks for players no longer playing in the AFL. My opinion only, based on the fact that we have just drafted our teams so any players still playing should be retained.
+1 I am in total agreement, the only thing being that if a player like Gram does not get picked up again, no bias intended, that the compensation is better than just having a pick after the ND has finished.

I picked Gram on his football proess, not expecting him to be sacked. This is almost like the McCarthy situation IMO.

Nails

Maybe something like...

A delisted player from 100-200 can be an after 3rd (could make it 2nd) rd is completed pick.... 200-300 after 4th rd pick... 300-400 after 5th rd then the rest all after end of draft...

(not sure how many ND rounds there are...)

That something like that would seem fair to me IMO. Replacing Gram with a spud no-one ever wanted seems a bit rough for Fletch imo

Colliwobblers

i don't think any compensation picks should be given DURING the national draft.

99% of these guys delisted or retired were VERY LATE picks and shouldn't be able to be replaced by gun kids in our national draft.

in the case of Fletch, I agree, not JMac like he was 22 and rapidly improving, i took him at round 11, but certainly I think Gram warrants a national draft compensation pick around maybe end of round 4 , 3 would be generous? leave that to the boss...

Jmac was for me end of round 2.

As for ALL the other delisted and retired players i think end of rookie draft compensation picks is where we should get the picks.

and yes I have 4 players delisted so not being biased :)

Fletch74

Quote from: Nails on November 12, 2012, 09:01:19 AM
That something like that would seem fair to me IMO. Replacing Gram with a spud no-one ever wanted seems a bit rough for Fletch imo
That's all dependent on if he doesn't get picked up. I'm happy to have him if he gets picked up.

Ringo

#447
Great Suggestion Nails was wondering for those that had early picks that retired or were delisted and then having to wait till pick 73 in rookie draft for compensation picks. Need to wait till after the pre season draft to see which players are being picked up by other clubs.

With 4 rounds in the Rookie Draft I would suggest as follows:

Teams with players not playing who had picks 100 - 200 Compensation picks after Round 1
Teams with players not playing who had picks 201 - 300 Compensation picks after Round 2
Teams with players not playing who had picks 301 - 400 Compensation picks adter Round 3
Balance after completion of Round 4.

This formula is reasonable as it will give a coach who had an early pick 2 picks in Round 1 of the Rookie Draft and so on.  Fair compensation imo.

Colliwobblers

i'll go along with whatever, Ringo/Nails system seems reasonable, Ringos formula of compensation during the "rookie" draft as laid out above seems very reasonable indeed.

except for special exceptions which i think there are only a few, me (Jmac) fletch (gram?)  i think Ringo and maybe one or two others had a really high pick retire/delisted as well? drummond?

anyway i'll go with the flow but that looks fair to me Ringo.

Spinking

Good debate lads. I agree with Colli that the compensation picks shouldn't be in the Nat, and with Ringo, Nails etc, that there needs to be a tiered compensation scheme. 

I'll post up some rules suggestions tonight for comment.