Cox v nix nat

Started by bartyboys, August 26, 2012, 08:18:03 AM

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bartyboys

Amazing how cox and nic nat had very  similar stats and massive difference in points . Rigged rigged rigged

Wacky Tiger

Didn't watch the whole game but from what I saw Nic Nat had a lot of contested marks and hit outs to advantage

kilbluff1985

yeah Nic Nat had more influence then Cox unfortunately would like to lock him in next year but has been injured a bit this season i think so not sure yet

Colliwobblers

NicNat is clearly the best SC ruck in the game. Stats in terms of SC were nothing alike at all.

NicNat took more contested marks, more intercept marks, he save goals and he created goals. His hitouts would have been 90% to advantage and he dominated in pretty much every contest he was involved in.

As soon as he finds a little more consistency he will be the premier ruck in the AFL an find himself AA.

disco1992

 Was there and coz had about 5-6 clangers!! Nic nat actually changed the game with his stats and hit outs!!

quinny88

This is a classic case of someone making a judgement by looking at stats without watching the game.
NicNat was the probably the best and most influential player on the ground. Cox was just OK. 

Turkies

Watch the damn game before you spout crap like this. Nic Nat was an absolute beast, played an amazing game. Cox did not much at all.

You should know that a kick doesn't equal a kick in SC.

bartyboys

I can see the point of some , and yes I watched the game . Hit outs to advantage were similar , de % cox 71 nic nat53% . Nic nat had far more contested possession . But 83 points vs 163 points !!!

Colliwobblers

Quote from: bartyboys on August 26, 2012, 04:23:10 PM
I can see the point of some , and yes I watched the game . Hit outs to advantage were similar , de % cox 71 nic nat53% . Nic nat had far more contested possession . But 83 points vs 163 points !!!

+1 bartyboys, good to see you DO know what your on about, watched the game and you do know what effects SC scores

BUT there is that great big "grey area" we all love in SC which is "WEIGHTING"

this depends on the individuals, impact on the game, at what key points in the game they did what they did, and several other aspects.

It does seem extreme but I guess SC feels NicNat had a big impact on the game, stood up at key turning points of the game, and in general had a much bigger impact on the outcome of the game than Cox did.

I tend to agree.

jabroni

basically get nic nat next year  8)

Heppell21

Nic Nat, he acts like a midfielder at times and gets load of marks (specky's) for his standard.

Phasir

Nic Nat by a mile, woosha said it best when he said "we still haven't worked out if he's a big or a small yet" add that to his hitouts to advantage and he's a SC star with massive room for improvement since he's only 22 with Cox still the #1 ruckman in the team, next year he could average over 120 if they shift some more responsibility to him from Cox

Shihan7

Quote from: Phasir on August 29, 2012, 02:49:45 PM
Nic Nat by a mile, woosha said it best when he said "we still haven't worked out if he's a big or a small yet" add that to his hitouts to advantage and he's a SC star with massive room for improvement since he's only 22 with Cox still the #1 ruckman in the team, next year he could average over 120 if they shift some more responsibility to him from Cox
+1

ubeaut

Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 26, 2012, 10:15:17 AM
NicNat is clearly the best SC ruck in the game. Stats in terms of SC were nothing alike at all.

NicNat took more contested marks, more intercept marks, he save goals and he created goals. His hitouts would have been 90% to advantage and he dominated in pretty much every contest he was involved in.

As soon as he finds a little more consistency he will be the premier ruck in the AFL an find himself AA.
THIS
Quote from: disco1992 on August 26, 2012, 12:42:46 PM
Was there and coz had about 5-6 clangers!! Nic nat actually changed the game with his stats and hit outs!!
AND THIS
Quote from: Turkies on August 26, 2012, 01:28:20 PM
Watch the damn game before you spout crap like this. Nic Nat was an absolute beast, played an amazing game. Cox did not much at all.

You should know that a kick doesn't equal a kick in SC.
AND THIS
Quote from: Heppell21 on August 29, 2012, 10:26:41 AM
Nic Nat, he acts like a midfielder at times and gets load of marks (specky's) for his standard.
AND THIS

FactHunt

Im still trying to find the article that i read, but anyhow it said that NicNat wins 'more contested ball in a one on one' than ANY OTHER PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE... at like 70% or 78% or something. (still trying to find the article again). He is a freak.