AXVs: Official Drafts

[Colliwobblers]

PENDING ANY LATE TRADES TONIGHT - OR ANY TRADES ALLOWED AT MY DISCRETION OVER THE NEXT WEEK AND A BIT, THIS BELOW IS THE FINAL PICK ORDER HEADING INTO THE AXVs NATIONAL DRAFT WHICH KICKS OFF THIS COMING FRIDAY.

ANY FURTHER TRADES TEAMS WISH TO MAKE CAN BE SUBMITTED TO ME FOR APPROVAL AFTER THE CUT OFF DATE I HAVE ADVISED YOU ALL OF, HOWEVER NO GUARANTEES TRADES WILL BE PROCESSED AFTER THE CUT OFF DATE. BUT IN SHORT IF I HAVE TIME TO PROCESS I WILL DO SO.

AGAIN PLEASE ADVISE ANY DEFINITE DELISTED OR RETIRED PLAYERS YOU HAVE THAT YOU WANT COMPENSATION PICKS FOR.

HERE IS A LINK TO UPCOMING DRAFT DETAILS:

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66981.msg921740.html#msg921740

UPDATED DRAFT PICKS NATIONAL & ROOKIE/PRE-SEASON POST TRADE PERIOD #1

PICKS IN BLUE SHOW TRADED PICKS

NATIONAL DRAFT PICKS

Round 1.

Pick 1. Whatlez
Pick 2. Tbagrocks
Pick 3. Jayman
Pick 4. JbsHawks
Pick 5. JbsHawks
Pick 6. Whatlez
Pick 7. Tbagrocks
Pick 8. Nostradamus
Pick 9. Noz
Pick 10. Colliwobblers
Pick 11. Tor01doc
Pick 12. Maca24
Pick 13. JbsHawks
Pick 14. Tbagrocks
Pick 15. KoopKicka
Pick 16. Tbagrocks

Round 2.

Pick 17. Monstrom
Pick 18. JROO8
Pick 19. Jayman
Pick 20. Colliwobblers
Pick 21. Jayman
Pick 22. JROO8
Pick 23. Adamant
Pick 24. Nostradamus
Pick 25. Noz
Pick 26. Maca24
Pick 27. BB67TH
Pick 28. Maca24
Pick 29. Tor01doc
Pick 30. Tbagrocks
Pick 31. Tbagrocks
Pick 32. Nails

Round 3.

Pick 33. Tbagrocks
Pick 34. Adamant
Pick 35. Nostradamus
Pick 36. Picker_man
Pick 37. JROO8
Pick 38. Picker_man
Pick 39. Adamant
Pick 40. Nostradamus
Pick 41. Nostradamus
Pick 42. Adamant
Pick 43. BB67TH
Pick 44. Maca24
Pick 45. Jayman
Pick 46. Monstrom
Pick 47. Picker_man
Pick 48. Nostradamus

Round 4.

Pick 49. Whatlez
Pick 50. Monstrom
Pick 51. Monstrom
Pick 52. Colliwobblers
Pick 53. Monstrom
Pick 54. Picker_man
Pick 55. KoopKicka
Pick 56. KoopKicka
Pick 57. Noz
Pick 58. Adamant
Pick 59. BB67TH
Pick 60. Maca24
Pick 61. Tor01doc
Pick 62. Colliwobblers
Pick 63. KoopKicka
Pick 64. Nails


ROOKIE/PRE-SEASON DRAFT PICKS

Round 1.

Pick 1. Whatlez
Pick 2. Adamant
Pick 3. Jayman
Pick 4. Tor01doc
Pick 5. Tbagrocks
Pick 6. JROO8
Pick 7. Tor01doc
Pick 8. Nostradamus
Pick 9. Noz
Pick 10. JROO8
Pick 11. BB67TH
Pick 12. JROO8
Pick 13. KoopKicka
Pick 14. Colliwobblers
Pick 15. Jayman
Pick 16. Nails

Round 2.

Pick 17. Whatlez
Pick 18. Adamant
Pick 19. Nails
Pick 20. JbsHawks
Pick 21. Monstrom
Pick 22. Picker_man
Pick 23. Whatlez
Pick 24. Nostradamus
Pick 25. Noz
Pick 26. JROO8
Pick 27. BB67TH
Pick 28. Maca24
Pick 29. JbsHawks
Pick 30. Colliwobblers
Pick 31. KoopKicka
Pick 32. Nails

Round 3.

Pick 33. Whatlez
Pick 34. Adamant
Pick 35. KoopKicka
Pick 36. JbsHawks
Pick 37. Monstrom
Pick 38. Picker_man
Pick 39. Tbagrocks
Pick 40. Nostradamus
Pick 41. Noz
Pick 42. Picker_man
Pick 43. BB67TH
Pick 44. Maca24
Pick 45. Tor01doc
Pick 46. Colliwobblers
Pick 47. KoopKicka
Pick 48. Nails

Round 4.

Pick 49. Whatlez
Pick 50. Adamant
Pick 51. Jayman
Pick 52. JbsHawks
Pick 53. Monstrom
Pick 54. Picker_man
Pick 55. Tbagrocks
Pick 56. Nostradamus
Pick 57. Noz
Pick 58. Picker_man
Pick 59. BB67TH
Pick 60. Maca24
Pick 61. Tor01doc
Pick 62. Colliwobblers
Pick 63. KoopKicka
Pick 64. Nails

Round 5.

Pick 65. Whatlez
Pick 66. Adamant
Pick 67. Jayman
Pick 68. JbsHawks
Pick 69. Monstrom
Pick 70. Picker_man
Pick 71. JbsHawks
Pick 72. Nostradamus
Pick 73. Noz
Pick 74. JROO8
Pick 75. BB67TH
Pick 76. Maca24
Pick 77. Tor01doc
Pick 78. Colliwobblers
Pick 79. Picker_man
Pick 80. Nails

Round 6.

Pick 81. Whatlez
Pick 82. Adamant
Pick 83. Jayman
Pick 84. JbsHawks
Pick 85. Monstrom
Pick 86. JROO8
Pick 87. Tbagrocks
Pick 88. Noz
Pick 89. Noz
Pick 90. JROO8
Pick 91. BB67TH
Pick 92. Maca24
Pick 93. Tor01doc
Pick 94. Colliwobblers
Pick 95. KoopKicka
Pick 96. Nails

Compensation Picks: Delisted players from the INITIAL DRAFT

Pick 97. Tor01doc  (compensation for retired player - Pick 292. Tor01doc = Josh Drummond )
Pick 98. Maca24  (compensation for delisted player - Pick 348. Maca24 = Brendan Lee )
Pick 99. JROO8  (compensation for delisted player - Pick 538. EZA100 = Michael Coad )
Pick 100. Jayman (compensation for retired player - Pick 558. Jayman = Tom Swift )
Pick 101. KoopKicka (compensation for delisted player - Pick 575. KoopKicka = Matthew Panos )

[Colliwobblers]

* ALL TEAM LISTS HAVE BEEN TRANSFERED ACCROSS FROM TRADE THREAD AND HAVE HAD ALL DE-LISTED PLAYERS MADE BLUE.

* REVIEW YOUR TEAM HERE FOR ERRORS, AND ADVISE ME OF ANY DE-LISTED PLAYERS YOU WANT COMPENSATION PICKS FOR

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66557.msg862493.html#msg862493

NOTE: YOU CAN STILL ELECT TO TAKE COMPENSATION FOR A DE-LISTED PLAYER AFTER THE AFL PRESEASON DRAFT RIGHT BEFORE WE START OUR AXVS ROOKIE/PRESEASON DRAFT, IF THAT PLAYER YOU HAVE IS NOT PICKED UP BY AN AFL CLUB.


* ALL DE-LISTED PLAYERS ARE NOW REFLECTED IN BLUE IN THE INITIAL DRAFT POOL, ALL THESE PLAYERS ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU IN THE UPCOMING AXVS NATIONAL DRAFT ALONG WITH THE AFL NATIONAL DRAFTEES.

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66557.msg862266.html#msg862266

[KoopKicka]

flower this, Clint Bartram retired at only 24, compensation please Colli. :(

[Colliwobblers]

flower this, Clint Bartram retired at only 24, compensation please Colli. :(

It is very hard to change the rule to give better compensation now, one the other 17 coaches won't support the rule change because they are not effected.

I have some sympathy for the following but I am not sure how I could possibly work out where to stop the bonus compensation...

Pick 193. Nails = Jason Gram
287. KoopKicka = Clint Bartram
292. Tor01doc = Josh Drummond
297. Nostradamus = Sam Iles

The reason I say this is that the delisted players start again at pick 322 and keep going so how do I rule on where to stop giving better compensation picks out?

I will consider suggestions and ideas, potentially i will even consider employing the probable BRITISH XVS Rule as I have posted below, but it will require a ote and a majority of 10 to support the change whatever way we go.....


BRITISH EXCERPT.

It will be hard to get a purely Fair system but hopefully in Fletch's case Gram gets picked up. Maybe just amend my proposal to any picks under 180 (Top 10 picks for all teams in the Draft) have a priority pick in the Rooke Draft eg 1st picks. This may equate to losing a top 10 pick from your side.

Makiing the suggestion as follows: (I have redrafted slightly and leave it open to debate)
Draft picks under 180 - Priority picks in the Rookie Draft. (Top 10 picks per team in Draft) Currently one pick
Draft picks 181- 270  Compensation picks after Round 1 (these were picks 11 - 15 in draft) Currently 4 picks
Draft Picks 271 - 360 Compensation picks after Round 2 (these would be picks 15 - 20 in draft) Currently 4 picks
DrafT Picks 361 - 450 Compensation picks after Round 3 (these would be picks 20 - 25 in Draft) Currently 4 picks
Balance after Round 4

Basically this means that we are giving prioity picks in the Rookie draft to teams that have lost players from their top 25 picks.

Rules around this would be that the order would be on the basis of picks and that the player no longer is playing in the AFL eg retired or not picked up by another club.  If you still choose to delist one of these players that have been picked up by another club you will revert to picking after the Rookie draft.

Hope this makes sense. But really needed to concentrate on getting suitable compensation for a team losing a top 10 pick. To show my Fairness could have made it top 15 and included my own 2 players who are retired and de-listed but I believe a top 10 pick really deserves it if not picked up.

Please feel free to pull apart or discuss further (Originally thinking next 10 picks for the compo picks after each round but thought that may be a bit too generous.)

[JBs-Hawks]

Our rookie picks are more valuable than British cos they only have spuds left. Should make all compo at the end of the draft, poor drafting shouldn't be rewarded, if you want to draft old or fringe players it's a risk you take.

[Colliwobblers]

Our rookie picks are more valuable than British cos they only have spuds left. Should make all compo at the end of the draft, poor drafting shouldn't be rewarded, if you want to draft old or fringe players it's a risk you take.

i am almost certain this will be the general consensus, nails is unlucky with gram, and drummond and bartram also taken high and ilses would have widely been expected to play on and score well.

but what can you do.....

[Adamant]

flower this, Clint Bartram retired at only 24, compensation please Colli. :(

You could have got Jasper Pittard over Bartram KK! :o

[KoopKicka]

flower this, Clint Bartram retired at only 24, compensation please Colli. :(

You could have got Jasper Pittard over Bartram KK! :o

Shut up! :P

[tbagrocks]

Our rookie picks are more valuable than British cos they only have spuds left. Should make all compo at the end of the draft, poor drafting shouldn't be rewarded, if you want to draft old or fringe players it's a risk you take.

Exactelly, there were plenty of great potential kids to pick and the coaches picked those spuds instead, bad luck but that's reality

[Justin Bieber]

Can I get Swift as an assistant coach or mentor?

[Colliwobblers]

I am going to be fairly flexible in allowing you all to advise me of the delisted players who DO get picked up by other clubs that you DO and DO NOT want to keep.

You will have until the completion of ROUND ONE of the AXVs ROOKIE/PRESEASON DRAFT to advise me of your decision on each player you have RELISTED.

ALL DELISTED AND RETIRED PLAYERS ARE NOW UPDATED ON THE FRONT PAGES OF THIS THREAD ONLY, AS PER THE AFL LIST LODGEMENT #2 DEADLINE TODAY.

Remember trading ends midnight Sunday, but if you close a deal between then and the start of the AFL national draft I may still be able to process it for you - no guarantees.

[Colliwobblers]

Also there will be no changes to the compensation rules. I feel for the high initial draft picks that have gone but the fact is for most of the cases there are other delisted players from other AXVs teams not far under so it's kind of give everyone bonus compensation or no one.

given that 100% of feedback I have received so far is against any changes, and the proximity of the draft, there will be no changes.

[Nails]

Our rookie picks are more valuable than British cos they only have spuds left. Should make all compo at the end of the draft, poor drafting shouldn't be rewarded, if you want to draft old or fringe players it's a risk you take.

Exactelly, there were plenty of great potential kids to pick and the coaches picked those spuds instead, bad luck but that's reality

Gram wasn't a bad pick. He was regular best 22... I got flowered.

I don't deserve to just get flowered up like that...

[Noz]

Is it too late for me to get compo for Sherman?

[Jroo]

Is it too late for me to get compo for Sherman?

Nah, you can do it right up up until the rookie draft