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Started by Colliwobblers, August 13, 2012, 06:19:17 PM

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Adamant

Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 16, 2012, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 16, 2012, 06:08:32 PM
sooo how does the trade period work? does Colli need to confirm a trade between the 2 teams or does the 2 coaches of the teams just have to agree?

Yes I approve or reject trades. Will provide detailed reasoning for each trade decision.

YES - We voted 4 list movements this season (only) . As at the end of the 2013 season there will be 4 in each of the 2 trade periods making a total of 8.

The reason being we have just drafted our entire squads and "should" not need to trade much, many wanted no trading at all this season.
Does it have to be a really unfair trade to be rejected e.g Swan for Clint Jones or could you still reject something like
Goddard + Pendles for Heppell + Priddis?

JBs-Hawks

Would you reject a Dal Santo for Broadbent trade?  ::)   :P

picker_man

Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 16, 2012, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 16, 2012, 06:08:32 PM
sooo how does the trade period work? does Colli need to confirm a trade between the 2 teams or does the 2 coaches of the teams just have to agree?

Yes I approve or reject trades. Will provide detailed reasoning for each trade decision.

YES - We voted 4 list movements this season (only) . As at the end of the 2013 season there will be 4 in each of the 2 trade periods making a total of 8.

The reason being we have just drafted our entire squads and "should" not need to trade much, many wanted no trading at all this season.

8 next yr seems rediculouse ::) so im all about getting the best players in, if i have to offer 3-4 guys to get that one player in it means i can do two trades...... really think this rule is stupid!!! should be looked at with all the guys so keen on here highly doubt anyone would ruin there team completely changing it if more trades were allowed. Have a look at Euro's 2 coaches left and made one trade before they did, If you want more action and it to be more exciting during trade periods this is one rule that will completely ruin the fun of of that

Colliwobblers

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 16, 2012, 07:44:42 PM
Would you reject a Dal Santo for Broadbent trade?  ::)   :P

no comment....

But on the issue of trades being approved or rejected it will be based on the following plus other smaller considerations.

1. The balance- worth of both players ( NOW )
2. The balance - potential worth of players ( mid to long term )
3. Age of players being traded, a 30 year old proven gun is worth less than a 24 year old proven gun.
4. Player positions and therefore scoring potential.
5. Team needs - both ways, a defender has more value than the players worth alone to a team that has a poor defense.
6. Unfair advantage - even if a team is desperate for a defender they will not get one in exchange for e.g Pendles where the team receiving pendles gains a massive probably scoring capability over not only the trading team but other teams in the competition.

So even if you have a team with a poor defense i won't approve you trading an elite midfielder for a good defender, i may however allow the trade for a premium defender, even tho the mid will outscore the defender by 20-30ppg, the team needs and fact we are talking two premiums makes the trade acceptable.

In the case of trading for draft picks, it gets more complicated, a young gun is both priceless and worthless. Trading an old player for a high draft pick is one example of where it might happen as well as using draft picks to balance a player trade out.

DRAFT PICKS TRADED DO NOT COUNT AS LIST MOVEMENTS. (where it is a draft pick for a draft pick)

But if you trade a player for a draft pick THAT DOES COUNT as it changes your list.

Every case will be judged independently and thoroughly and as I said a detailed report on the trade decision will be provided ( no more than 24 hours after the trade is PM to me by BOTH parties).

Quote8 next yr seems rediculouse ::) so im all about getting the best players in, if i have to offer 3-4 guys to get that one player in it means i can do two trades...... really think this rule is stupid!!! should be looked at with all the guys so keen on here highly doubt anyone would ruin there team completely changing it if more trades were allowed. Have a look at Euro's 2 coaches left and made one trade before they did, If you want more action and it to be more exciting during trade periods this is one rule that will completely ruin the fun of of that

This is fair enough Pickers but there was a vote and i think the result was conclusive - I will check.

Take Whatlez and several other coaches in British, ZERO trades, why would they want you having unlimited trades when thye use none?

What is important is to have the competition perform and feel realistic, like you are running an AFL list and team, not just playing dream team and scoring points.

How many trades does the average AFL club make per season? 4 - 8 - more?  Probably less I think.

JBs-Hawks

Whatlez only has 0 trades cos he picks spuds that no one wants or he overrates :P

Noz

Back to the draft who's pick is it?

picker_man

Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 16, 2012, 08:02:49 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 16, 2012, 07:44:42 PM
Would you reject a Dal Santo for Broadbent trade?  ::)   :P

no comment....

But on the issue of trades being approved or rejected it will be based on the following plus other smaller considerations.

1. The balance- worth of both players ( NOW )
2. The balance - potential worth of players ( mid to long term )
3. Age of players being traded, a 30 year old proven gun is worth less than a 24 year old proven gun.
4. Player positions and therefore scoring potential.
5. Team needs - both ways, a defender has more value than the players worth alone to a team that has a poor defense.
6. Unfair advantage - even if a team is desperate for a defender they will not get one in exchange for e.g Pendles where the team receiving pendles gains a massive probably scoring capability over not only the trading team but other teams in the competition.

So even if you have a team with a poor defense i won't approve you trading an elite midfielder for a good defender, i may however allow the trade for a premium defender, even tho the mid will outscore the defender by 20-30ppg, the team needs and fact we are talking two premiums makes the trade acceptable.

In the case of trading for draft picks, it gets more complicated, a young gun is both priceless and worthless. Trading an old player for a high draft pick is one example of where it might happen as well as using draft picks to balance a player trade out.

DRAFT PICKS TRADED DO NOT COUNT AS LIST MOVEMENTS. (where it is a draft pick for a draft pick)

But if you trade a player for a draft pick THAT DOES COUNT as it changes your list.

Every case will be judged independently and thoroughly and as I said a detailed report on the trade decision will be provided ( no more than 24 hours after the trade is PM to me by BOTH parties).

Quote8 next yr seems rediculouse ::) so im all about getting the best players in, if i have to offer 3-4 guys to get that one player in it means i can do two trades...... really think this rule is stupid!!! should be looked at with all the guys so keen on here highly doubt anyone would ruin there team completely changing it if more trades were allowed. Have a look at Euro's 2 coaches left and made one trade before they did, If you want more action and it to be more exciting during trade periods this is one rule that will completely ruin the fun of of that

This is fair enough Pickers but there was a vote and i think the result was conclusive - I will check.

Take Whatlez and several other coaches in British, ZERO trades, why would they want you having unlimited trades when thye use none?

What is important is to have the competition perform and feel realistic, like you are running an AFL list and team, not just playing dream team and scoring points.

How many trades does the average AFL club make per season? 4 - 8 - more?  Probably less I think.

well maybe have a look at coaches who are seriouse about trading and dont just play games probaly why names you mentioned havent made any.....

so have a look at the team mailman left me in euro's and have a look at in now (t.cotchin + j.selwood + j.redden + b. stanton + n.foley + b.whitecross is my midfield, i started with one of them guys).... you will be surprised how ppl trade if there seriouse trust me ;)

How is anyone who comes along meant to get excited about there team if they can do anything with it, what you have as 8 as a rule (something you've put in as i never voted on that!) means we cant do anything with our teams in the future, were all going to be fielding the same teams yr in yr out, what if you wanna change tactics and go for a younger team it will take your 3-4 years to get to that as you cant trade much. Really you think you need to think you about this or trade period will be so boring , and might aswell have no trade period if you cant do much ::)

JBs-Hawks

There wont be many trades in British or Asians until after the first seasons when people will find all the holes they need to fill and places they need to imrpove on.

picker_man

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 16, 2012, 08:37:12 PM
There wont be many trades in British or Asians until after the first seasons when people will find all the holes they need to fill and places they need to imrpove on.

agree with that, but next yr you cant hold us to 8 surely thats just way to hard to get everything you want done

Jay


BB67th

That could be anyone Jayman ::)

Noz

Well thats about has helpfully as Brendan Fevola on trivia night  ::)

Justin Bieber

How you hae traded in Euros pickers is stupid and unrealistic. This game is meant to be set up cause AFL has disbanded in Australia and us coaches have moved around the world to play.

However, like me, we didn't draft the team, so we trade a lot to fix up our Team to get looking how we want it.

I think a small amount of list changes for the first year of the comp is great. Why draft a team then trade it all away? If we are serious the trading should be even less, cause in the AFL there is no trading after the rookie draft and the setup of this game should do that very same thing.

Noz



AXV Golden Spud award make it happen  :D

Jay

Quote from: BB67th on September 16, 2012, 08:51:46 PM
That could be anyone Jayman ::)
Quote from: Noz on September 16, 2012, 08:54:01 PM
Well thats about has helpfully as Brendan Fevola on trivia night  ::)

flowering hell guys ::) that is the root of the Lepidium meyenii, commonly known as the '???' plant