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haha, fantasy football is dead.

Started by Ziplock, June 15, 2012, 06:36:26 PM

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Ziplock

'AFL CEO, Andrew Demetriou has declared that the 2013 AFL Season opener will be held at Etihad Stadium. But will not force Richmond and Carlton to move there blockbuster there. Demetriou also said that there would be 22 games with 2 byes included for each team, meaning 18 rounds of 9 games and 6 rounds of 6 games.'

6 flowering multibyes with 6 teams out in each...

unless there is a massive rule overhaul for DT/SC I'm going to seriously consider stopping my fantasy football habits.

seriously

what the flower.

pyronerd

the AFL have absolutely no clue..... 6 likely horrible rounds of football, as well as not having the season opening blockbuster at the G, where Etihad can't hold anywhere near the 80,000 that it usually draws.

Justin Bieber

Umm well we should get 30 trades minimum and 3 player benches.

That should solve a little...

PowerBug

Why not just cop it and move on.


It not meant to be all easy going. :P

Colliwobblers

we knew the 2 byes was coming i don't mind the two byes but i would have prefered they had them over 12 rounds with less teams having the bye each week, not bothering doing the maths but those 6 weekends with 6 games sux balls. I feel empty without my full 9 games per weekend. :) these three weeks are shower for fantasy but also shower for footy in general, better to have 2 rounds next season where no one plays at all. just write it off while the players get their restys ( which i don't remember them asking for in the first place)

then there is the stupid all star game idea omfg who cares, a genuine state of origin where you played your first game of footy would be of interest but it won't be that, it will be some knee jerk slapstick show that no one takes seriously or gives a toss about.

as for fantasy it is easily fixed with a 3 man bench and instead of 2 extra trades for the season and 3 per bye round, 6(minimum) extra, but so it's not too easy maybe just ONLY allow the extra 6 to be used during the MBR's (normal 2 per round + 1 extra per round for the 6 bye rounds).

A 3 man bench and 6 trades won't completely fix it but it will make it a lot easier and a lot less likely to be a total write off during the byes, or force people to burn trades and ruin thier season just for 3 stupid rounds.

I agree in the end it has ruined the season this year, you either burn yourself by over trading and making choices you wouldn't normally due to the byes, or you ignore the byes to stick to your plan and burn yourself dropping 1000's of ranks over the byes eating donuts that are designed to be unavoidable.

it's a lose lose and it frankly just sux. unenjoyable. a game should never be designed to put you in a situation where you can't win, as in you have to eat donuts or waste trades.

Spite

Or, as much as people hate it, let the bye rounds not count towards a teams overall total score and make it an 18 round competition.

Ziplock

that's not viable- means that the DT/SC sites won't get as much traffic.

I think they're going to have to either give us a 3-4 man bench (which would make normal weeks ridiculously easy), or as lez said, like 30 trades.

or, they could have a bench spot that is fixed/locked as a 4th/ 3rd spot, and you cant play the player from it unless its a bye (although, the player can still be traded on the bench, or subbed off the bench using the new trading system). The issue with so many bench spots though is that we need a lot of rookies to fill them.

I think we should get unlimited trades in the bye rounds that dont count to overall trade count, but these 'free' trades can only be used on players with the bye, and the trades get reversed at the end of the bye. 

also solves the problem of those dicks who make teams for just the bye rounds weekly :P


Spite

I would rather an alternate competition for the bye rounds.

Let 18 rounds count for overall and give a grand to the person who scores the most over the 6 bye weeks.

Capper

2 mega rounds.

for instance R8,9 and 10 could be 1 round of scores with every team having a break

Holz

What would be an interesting idea but its not going to happen. Is you have a rookie list of 4 players and they become available only in MBRs. You can trade in and trade out players from the rookie list but if you want to move a rookie listed player into your current sqaud you have to use a trade (or could only do one a week).

As i said would be interesting and fix the MBRs in my opinion.

Ziplock

thats presuming all the byes line up with all the teams, it'd be really confusing, also assumes all players play each game etc. :/

like if we have lets say teams 1-18
round 1 teams  1 2 3 4 5 6 all have a bye
round 2 teams 7 8 9 10 11 12 have a bye
round 3 teams 13 14 15 16 17 18 have a bye

but then
round 4 teams 1 2 7 8 13 14 have bye
round 5- 3 4 9 10 15 16 have a bye
round 6- 5 6 11 12 17 18 have a bye

so that means that, for instance,
round 1-  7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 scores count
round 2- 1 2 3 4 5 6 13 14 15 16 17 18 count
round 3-  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 count
round 4- 3 4 5 6 9 10 11 12 15 16 17 18 count
round 5- 1 2 5 6 7 8 11 12 13 14 17 18 count
round 6- 1 2 3 4 7 8 9 10 13 14 15 16 scores count

so that means that over these 6 bye rounds, teams 1-18 play 4 times each, meaning, logically, you'd have 4 mega rounds over this, but then you have an issue organising the mega rounds. For instance, round 3, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 are all playing, so lets say you lump all their scores together with round 1, when 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18, then you have, in essence a full round. So that's round 1 and 3 done. So lets say you do round 2 then, when 1 2 3 4 5 6 13 14 15 16 17 18 count, you obviously can't lump it together with round 1 or 3, since both of those rounds have already been merged, which leaves round 4 5 6 to merge it into, but of 4 5 6, obviously 5 and 6 have both 1 and 2 teams playing, so you can't merge those two, leaving round 4. But round 2 and round 4 have 3 4 5 6 15 16 17 18 in common, those teams in round 4 cant count and are left over. Logically round 5 and 6 would then be paired, but they share 1 2 7 8 13 14, so those teams from round 6 cant cant in the mega round. Which means that the teams left over from round 6 are paired with the teams left over from round 4 for mega round 4.
So basically, you have
mega round 1- scores from round 1 and 3
mega round 2- scores from round 2 and 4 (excluding teams 3 4 5 6 15 16 17 18 from round 4)
mega round 3- scores from round 5 and 6 (excluding teams 1 2 7 8 13 14 from round 6)
mega round 4- Score from round 6 (teams 1 2 7 8 13 14) and round 4 (teams 3 4 5 6 15 16 17 18)

as you can see, it works... it's just a complete dog to figure out (and I dropped a round 7 somewhere and so had to drop it into round 6- so things might be a bit weird). The issue is, what teams to add together for what round etc. are a bit arbitrary. It'd just be a headache to be like

theres 2 sets triple byes, rounds 5 6 7 and rounds 13 14 15, overwhich 4 'rounds' will be held... like round 4 is cobbled together, it'd be such a pain in the ass to be like- yeah round 4 is the scores from round 5 from adelaide, brisbane geelong, gold coast, richmond saint kilda and the scores from round 15 from carlton, collingwood, essendon, fremantle,  hawthorn, melbourne, north melbourne, port adelaide, sydney, west coast, western bulldogs and GWS. Especially since between those 10 rounds you would have made a flowerton of trading, there would have been injuries, droppings etc...

TL;DR- I really don't think it would work.

it's late, I'm going to sleep- I hope I didn't flower up any of that arranging or organising, because it was a dog to do lol.
     

PowerBug

Why can't we just worki around the byes again?? It'll just be alot harder work next year.


We are all too addicted to DT/SC to consider not doing it next year. :P

picker_man

we're all in the same boat whats the issue ??? If we went back to how it was last year we would think its to easy with what we've gone through this year.  this years been hard work but atleast you know you've earnt it if you get a good overall ranking. So I look forward to the challenge next year again, and no way id quit DT cause its to hard...... ::)

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: PowerBug on June 15, 2012, 06:51:01 PM
Why not just cop it and move on.


It not meant to be all easy going. :P

Nails

Only me or has Zippy become the Negative Nancy of FF?