Lockout

Started by JBs-Hawks, June 13, 2012, 08:39:55 PM

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JBs-Hawks

Will bye round players be locked out from the bounce of tommorow nights game? Because they were in DT pro last week.

Tominator

gee that's a great question. You wouldn't think so though.

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 13, 2012, 08:39:55 PM
Will bye round players be locked out from the bounce of tommorow nights game? Because they were in DT pro last week.
There was no partial lockout last week was there?

TheHanger

nah it wont be because people will want to trade out rd 12 bye players for new rookies etc, it would be totally unfair if it worked that way

Quote from: Tominator on June 13, 2012, 08:46:52 PM
gee that's a great question. You wouldn't think so though.

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 13, 2012, 08:39:55 PM
Will bye round players be locked out from the bounce of tommorow nights game? Because they were in DT pro last week.
There was no partial lockout last week was there?

dt pro locks out players when their game starts, so sunday players don't normally lock out till sunday (I THINK)

Tominator

oh OK well I don't have DT Pro so my bad

TheHanger

Quote from: Tominator on June 13, 2012, 09:48:34 PM
oh OK well I don't have DT Pro so my bad

neither, saw other comments about it though in previous threads  :P

Colliwobblers

dt and sc pro games have rolling lockouts so players are locked out as thier game starts, i think due to the byes as soon as the first game of the round starts all bye teams are considered to have played and therefore are locked out.

this is only the case in DT and SC pro, however i am not sure if it is the same in the normal dt or sc. I know trades are not reversable after thursdays game starts but i am not sure if the bye players are locked?

REALLY need to find this out!

obviously wouldnt trade clarke to shaw until teams friday, but if clarke gets locked after the bounce thursday i'm / we're screwed!

Colliwobblers

SAYS NOTHING ABOUT BYE PLAYERS BEING LOCKED ON THURSDAY BUT DOESN'T SAY THEY AREN'T EITHER ???


The Partial Lockout

    The Partial Lockout system has been introduced due to several early starts for selected AFL rounds, where all teams have not been announced prior to the start of the first game. The Partial Lockout system will ensure that you have sufficient time to review team lists for the Friday-Sunday matches (where announced), following the start of the first match on Thursdays or earlier, in rounds 1,2, 5 and 12 of the 2012 AFL Season.

How does the round 12 Partial Lockout system work?

    The competition will go into a 'Partial Lockout' mode at the start of the West Coast v Carlton game, at 7:40pm AEST on Thursday, June 14.
    Once in Partial Lockout mode, any West Coast or Carlton players selected in your team will be 'locked in' - you'll no longer be able to select, substitute or trade them, or name them as Captain, Vice Captain or Emergencies.
    Similarly, West Coast and Carlton players will no longer be able to be traded in.
    You may continue to edit your team as usual with the remaining players and teams up until the start of the Friday evening match between Adelaide and St Kilda, starting at 8:40pm AEST, June 15. The competition then goes into FULL LOCKOUT mode with the complete teams locked in. NO further team editing is possible.
    If you have selected a Captain, Vice Captain and/or any Emergencies from your West Coast or Carlton players prior to the Thursday evening partial lockout, they can NO longer be de-selected or changed. If you did not, these options will remain available to you through to the full lockout on Friday evening, for players from the remaining 5 matches.
    Similarly if you plan to make trades and substitutions between 7:40pm on Thursday and Friday evening, you cannot make those changes with West Coast or Carlton players (i.e. you can't substitute a Carlton player from the bench and into your Starting 22, once the match is under way and a partial lockout is in effect).
    REMEMBER, THE 'REVERSE CHANGES' OPTION WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE ONCE THE PARTIAL LOCKOUT IS IN EFFECT. TRADES AND CHANGES WILL NO LONGER BE REVERSIBLE ONCE THE GAME IS IN PARTIAL LOCKOUT MODE ON THURSDAY EVENING.

its me lads

This is a dilema, i remeber seeing in match centre at the start of the round all the bye players are considered to have played and have a 0 next to them but weather or not the bye players will be locked out is another issue.

this is a problem  :(

elephants

Quote from: its me lads on June 13, 2012, 11:22:13 PM
This is a dilema, i remeber seeing in match centre at the start of the round all the bye players are considered to have played and have a 0 next to them but weather or not the bye players will be locked out is another issue.

this is a problem  :(

No, its not.

Do this.

Set your Carlton/WCE player as VC (for me it's Robinson)

Set who you would want to be skipper if your VC fails (for me it's Boyd)

---Game is played on Thursday---

If Robbo kills it (say 135) we go 'yeah man I'll take that'. We can move the 'C' off Boyd and onto a non-playing player who has the bye.

If Robbo fails, leave as is.

Pretty much the only thing that could go wrong is your bye players are locked and you cant make them C. This would just mean that you can't take Robbo's score and you'll have Boyds instead.

Lets be honest though, will there be anyone worth skippering on Thursday? Unlikely.

TheHanger

Quote from: Colliwobblers on June 13, 2012, 10:37:18 PM
How does the round 12 Partial Lockout system work?

    If you have selected a Captain, Vice Captain and/or any Emergencies from your West Coast or Carlton players prior to the Thursday evening partial lockout, they can NO longer be de-selected or changed. If you did not, these options will remain available to you through to the full lockout on Friday evening, for players from the remaining 5 matches.
    Similarly if you plan to make trades and substitutions between 7:40pm on Thursday and Friday evening, you cannot make those changes with West Coast or Carlton players (i.e. you can't substitute a Carlton player from the bench and into your Starting 22, once the match is under way and a partial lockout is in effect).
    REMEMBER, THE 'REVERSE CHANGES' OPTION WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE ONCE THE PARTIAL LOCKOUT IS IN EFFECT. TRADES AND CHANGES WILL NO LONGER BE REVERSIBLE ONCE THE GAME IS IN PARTIAL LOCKOUT MODE ON THURSDAY EVENING.

that makes me think the captain loophole will not work with bye players, so I'll be putting the C on MACINTOSH for this round, might get stuck on a non player!

Once again I highly doubt that bye players will get locked out on thursday as it would be in big print on DT website because people will normally wait till Friday to trade and people wouldn't realise they had to trade on thursday

Colliwobblers

the vice captain loophole i sn't the issue

trading out bye players is the issue.

1000's of people have already traded marty clarke to sam shaw = good move if he gets named.

THE ISSUE

if you don't do it before partial lockout - CAN you do it after partial lockout if waiting for friday teams to go up ?

TheHanger

Quote from: elephants on June 13, 2012, 11:26:38 PM
Quote from: its me lads on June 13, 2012, 11:22:13 PM
This is a dilema, i remeber seeing in match centre at the start of the round all the bye players are considered to have played and have a 0 next to them but weather or not the bye players will be locked out is another issue.

this is a problem  :(

No, its not.

Do this.

Set your Carlton/WCE player as VC (for me it's Robinson)

Set who you would want to be skipper if your VC fails (for me it's Boyd)

---Game is played on Thursday---

If Robbo kills it (say 135) we go 'yeah man I'll take that'. We can move the 'C' off Boyd and onto a non-playing player who has the bye.

If Robbo fails, leave as is.

Pretty much the only thing that could go wrong is your bye players are locked and you cant make them C. This would just mean that you can't take Robbo's score and you'll have Boyds instead.

see above ele, i think will be impossible to put C/remove C from bye players

JBs-Hawks

I don't have any non playing players that aren't bye players and was hoping scooter would tear up in the wet

TheHanger

Quote from: Colliwobblers on June 13, 2012, 11:28:41 PM
the vice captain loophole i sn't the issue

trading out bye players is the issue.

1000's of people have already traded marty clarke to sam shaw = good move if he gets named.

THE ISSUE

if you don't do it before partial lockout - CAN you do it after partial lockout if waiting for friday teams to go up ?

yeah see my post Colli, no way it would work like that, intentionally anyway, it would be a major oversight if it did happen like that

elephants

Quote from: TheHanger on June 13, 2012, 11:29:22 PM
Quote from: elephants on June 13, 2012, 11:26:38 PM
Quote from: its me lads on June 13, 2012, 11:22:13 PM
This is a dilema, i remeber seeing in match centre at the start of the round all the bye players are considered to have played and have a 0 next to them but weather or not the bye players will be locked out is another issue.

this is a problem  :(

No, its not.

Do this.

Set your Carlton/WCE player as VC (for me it's Robinson)

Set who you would want to be skipper if your VC fails (for me it's Boyd)

---Game is played on Thursday---

If Robbo kills it (say 135) we go 'yeah man I'll take that'. We can move the 'C' off Boyd and onto a non-playing player who has the bye.

If Robbo fails, leave as is.

Pretty much the only thing that could go wrong is your bye players are locked and you cant make them C. This would just mean that you can't take Robbo's score and you'll have Boyds instead.

see above ele, i think will be impossible to put C/remove C from bye players

Dammit that took me ages ::)