Ask Holzman Round 11

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Holz

Quote from: whatlez on June 07, 2012, 06:54:23 PM
Quote from: whatlez on June 07, 2012, 09:18:49 AM
Holz what should we do with pendles??

You have him right?

Hey you didn't even answer my question??  >:( >:(

i will answered whatlez at the same time. Now Im hearng that some people are saying pendles will be back after the bye, im not sure about that I kept Swan and Ablett but im more nervous about pendles. What i will be doing with him probably wont help you i have pendles, swan,sewlood and my plan at the start of the season was to go Selwood to Boyd round 11 but now im going Pendles to Boyd and im going to cop a donut this week.

Now for most people there not in a situation like this, i would say if your really high in the ranking than you probably will have to drop pendles as i cant see him playing during the byes and those 2 donuts will hurt. If you bring in Stanton that's gaining you 200+ points.

If your ranked inside the top 1000 i would say trade him, if you dont have ablett or swan i would say trade to them even if your not in the top 1000.

Holz

Quote from: owenbond007 on June 07, 2012, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Holzman on June 07, 2012, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: owenbond007 on June 07, 2012, 06:27:06 PM
Hi Holz,

My team has been flying. Ranked 105th overall 386 off the leader. Was set up for the byes. But Unfortunately my team has been ravaged by suspensions and injuries losing pendles scotland waters.

Proposed r11 trades
Out-> Scotland, Pendles, Couch
In-> J.Revolt, mitchell, sexton

this will limit me to 1 donut if horse, smedts play

Proposed r12 trades
Out-> Smedts, Morris, horse
In-> Darley, Shaw, any round mid/forw (undecided prob rook)

predict 1 donut for waters

Proposed r13 trades
Out-> Ellis, J.Revolt(profit 60k), tuck/martin
In-> shaw/grimes, stevie j, swan

predict 1 donut


Doing this though would leave me with only 2 trades left though and id have Zorko/treloar and lake as my f7 d7. What are your thoughts? Also playing in a cash league so if i do this i pretty much probably not a chance to win it.

hmm this is really dificult as your really high ranked. You cant affford to go through 9 trades in the byes and leave yourself with 2 becasue you are sure to get more than 2 injuries and that will cripple you and if you have zorko and trealor as your 7th best forward i dont think you will have enough firepower to win the car and you will get killed in the league.

Im not sure if you want to do this but you may want to focus more on league becasue with the lack of trades and still having guys like couch i cant see you winning the car.  Your using 9 trades and your only getting 2 real upgrades and 2 slight upgrades.

Getting in reiwoldt than trading him out is a bad idea. Would need to see the complete team to give proper advice but I would suggest maybee 5 trades in the byes and copping 4 extra donuts. You want at minimum 6 trades after the byes.

Yeah im really in 2 minds what to do. If i could be certain pendles was only out for 2 weeks Id hang onto him and cop 1 extra donut and save a trade there. Revolt has got freo and gws is in red hot form was just using him for a quick cash grab and extra points in those rounds. Even if i wasnt to trade this round id win my league match as opponent has 15outs. thanks for your advice ill take it on board.

any problems cause by the team announcement this week, i only got hit by horse

Tominator

Holzman I'm keeping Pendlebury, but what should I do with my other trades?

Plan is, Horsley -> Williams and Porplyzia -> a gun fwd.
Which fwd should I pick out of Mitch Robinson, Steve Johnson and Paul Chapman?

Also, I was planning on upgrading Coniglio to a Rd 13 bye midfielder, maybe Brad Ebert or Sam Mitchell? Should I do that or just keep Cogs as M6/bench cover, as I should win this week. Thoughts?

NOTE: Holding Cogs would also save me a donut in the mids if Pendles misses Rd 13, as Ablett is only Rd 13 bye player in MIDs


Thanks in advance mate!

Colliwobblers

Got a curly one can't see a way out it's for my SC side - thinking of doing nothing unless you can convince me otherwise ???

MID: Swan - Pendles - Ablett - DalSanto - Thompson - SSelwood ( Zorko - Ledger )

ranked 6000ish but keeping pendles anyway. SSelwood an upgrade for late in season if trades permit. Dalsanto same.

Question is WHAT TO DO WITH LEDGER.

*last 4 weeks in a row named on best on ground for Sandringham, the VFL side. We know he's a gun 2nd year player.

*OPTIONS:

1. trade to marley williams - poor job security no guarnatee he will even save me the round 13 donut. potentially a wasted trade for a rook that won't play again.

2. trade to jack newnes - played 4 games avg 50 / -4 BE seems to have better job security solid score last week, $70K dearer @ $160k

3. EAT THE LEDGER DONUT - re-evaluate and possibly do the sideways rook trade in round 13 to save that donut if ledger still not named, possibly for miles or TMitchell or Morabito, possibly all better options than the previous 2?

4. SUB adams or sexton into the midfield (still get a donut there but save a fwd donut - 3 round 11 in my fwd line ) For Jamie Elliot - save as marley williams, assuming poor job security and again no guarantee he will even be playing in round 13 or beyond.

5. Same as option 4 but Hayden Crozier.

DONUT SUMMARY :)

*ROUND 11 -  DEF = 1 (shaw)  MID = 3 (pendles - zorko - ledger) FWD = 0

* ROUND 12 - with everyone playing = 1 donut in FWD

* ROUND 13 - with everyone playing = 1 donut in DEF + 1 donut in MID (this one if i don't trade Ledger out in 13)

*keeping in mind if i do trade ledger out now to a round 12 rook like marley, then i get ledgers round 13 mid donut in round 12 for marley anyway so trading ledger to a round 12 rook now saves me one donut but i get one either way in 12 or 13....

So pretty set up for donuts in future rounds. But 4 this round is not sitting well with me.

TRADES = LOW Verrrrrrry low. Enough to fully upgrade team and 6 left for LTI + late season improvements if not many or any LTI.

LaHug


elephants

Is 7 donuts over the byes normal?

LaHug

Quote from: Colliwobblers on June 08, 2012, 12:58:34 AM
Quote from: LaHug on June 08, 2012, 12:51:39 AM
This: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,61577.0.html

Yeah thats a great plan but my backline has one more round 12 player than yours so doing grimes would give me a donut in 12 and 13 in defence instead of just 13.

Goddard - Delidio - Scotland - Ellis - Shaw - Dempsey - Clarke ( hargrave - darley)

Round 12 = Clarke - Adcock
Round 13 = Ellis - Waters

Not ideal plan was Clarke - Waters in 12 then Ellis - Enright Grimes Broughton in 13

( but waters went and got rubbed out and flowered that plan up so I'll take the punt on adcock i guess)
I think Adcock looks the goods right now (but I've said that in the past...)
Was considering getting him in as D7 but it didn't fit in with my super plan...

Holz

Quote from: Tominator on June 08, 2012, 12:16:20 AM
Holzman I'm keeping Pendlebury, but what should I do with my other trades?

Plan is, Horsley -> Williams and Porplyzia -> a gun fwd.
Which fwd should I pick out of Mitch Robinson, Steve Johnson and Paul Chapman?

Also, I was planning on upgrading Coniglio to a Rd 13 bye midfielder, maybe Brad Ebert or Sam Mitchell? Should I do that or just keep Cogs as M6/bench cover, as I should win this week. Thoughts?

NOTE: Holding Cogs would also save me a donut in the mids if Pendles misses Rd 13, as Ablett is only Rd 13 bye player in MIDs

Thanks in advance mate!

hmm dificult one, wouldnt go stevie J. Out of chappy and robinson chappy is the better player im not sure if he jstifies the extra 40k, i you dont need the cash than go chappy but if you could use it over the byes than go robinson.

I cant see pendles playing round 13 so if you want to save a donut keeping him is the way to go. Mitchell may go up a little in value but i dont see him going up too much that you cant still get him in round 14 cheap.

Colliwobblers

sorry holz, though lahug's link was your answer to my question :) going crosseyed trrying to sort this mess out. deleted my post so as not to hijack the thread,

LaHug, Holz, looks the same after 5 hours quinting at the screen trying to make 7 donuts flower off :)

Holz

Quote from: Colliwobblers on June 08, 2012, 12:45:01 AM
Got a curly one can't see a way out it's for my SC side - thinking of doing nothing unless you can convince me otherwise ???

MID: Swan - Pendles - Ablett - DalSanto - Thompson - SSelwood ( Zorko - Ledger )

ranked 6000ish but keeping pendles anyway. SSelwood an upgrade for late in season if trades permit. Dalsanto same.

Question is WHAT TO DO WITH LEDGER.

*last 4 weeks in a row named on best on ground for Sandringham, the VFL side. We know he's a gun 2nd year player.

*OPTIONS:

1. trade to marley williams - poor job security no guarnatee he will even save me the round 13 donut. potentially a wasted trade for a rook that won't play again.

2. trade to jack newnes - played 4 games avg 50 / -4 BE seems to have better job security solid score last week, $70K dearer @ $160k

3. EAT THE LEDGER DONUT - re-evaluate and possibly do the sideways rook trade in round 13 to save that donut if ledger still not named, possibly for miles or TMitchell or Morabito, possibly all better options than the previous 2?

4. SUB adams or sexton into the midfield (still get a donut there but save a fwd donut - 3 round 11 in my fwd line ) For Jamie Elliot - save as marley williams, assuming poor job security and again no guarantee he will even be playing in round 13 or beyond.

5. Same as option 4 but Hayden Crozier.

DONUT SUMMARY :)

*ROUND 11 -  DEF = 1 (shaw)  MID = 3 (pendles - zorko - ledger) FWD = 0

* ROUND 12 - with everyone playing = 1 donut in FWD

* ROUND 13 - with everyone playing = 1 donut in DEF + 1 donut in MID (this one if i don't trade Ledger out in 13)

*keeping in mind if i do trade ledger out now to a round 12 rook like marley, then i get ledgers round 13 mid donut in round 12 for marley anyway so trading ledger to a round 12 rook now saves me one donut but i get one either way in 12 or 13....

So pretty set up for donuts in future rounds. But 4 this round is not sitting well with me.

TRADES = LOW Verrrrrrry low. Enough to fully upgrade team and 6 left for LTI + late season improvements if not many or any LTI.

I was going to say bring in elliot after the big wraps i hear about him on DT talk, but he is on an extendend bench so thats a little bit of a worry. But you saying you dont have many trades left (im down to 9) maybee just hold. do you have sexton though maybee look at getting him in. To be honest there arent many good rookies and if mitchell doesnt get in darley and sexton may be the best for a while and i cant see ledger playing. If you have more than 10 trades and dont have sexton i would bring him in. Williams or elliot you only need to play round 11 and 13 make 100k and possibly let you gain 100+ points over keeping ledger.

At 6k, if you care about your league at all maybee go for that as you probably have a good team but with low trades and outside the top 5k maybee league is the better way to go, if thats the case hold.

Holz

Quote from: LaHug on June 08, 2012, 12:51:39 AM
This: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,61577.0.html

first of all love this weeks trades i see another person is jumping on the grimes train. Your defense is looking good and covering 2 donuts so thats great work this week. I would have almost donw the exact same thing except i would have gone birch over suckers.

round 12: not a fan of yeo, maybee go for dalrey and shaw as downgrades. Your taking a little bit of a risk here and hoping rookies get games. So im not sure if you will be able to do these trades but if it works and rookies are playing they will be good moves.  Would you conisder trading out Jmac or D.Smith to Sexton this week you get one less donut this week but get it back round 13 but lets you go Morris/Ellis to Heppel or Waters round 13.

Than go ahead with the trades you propsed round 13. That way you end up with Sexton and Heppel over Yeo and Mcdonald.

Holz

Quote from: elephants on June 08, 2012, 12:52:37 AM
Is 7 donuts over the byes normal?

I thought 7 was going to be normal i think anyone who can get it down to 5 or under is looking good as long as they are not buring trades. Im looking at 5 donuts with 6 trades used during the byes. But I have heard some people are looking at 5+ donuts this round (I think people have loaded up on round 11 players)

It all depends on whether you planned for the byes and if you got hit by the likes of shaw, pendles, horse, lewis, waters, sctoland etc.. and how many trades you use. I think 7 wont put you to far behind the pack but i dont see it making you climb the ladder either.

Holz

Quote from: Colliwobblers on June 08, 2012, 01:16:27 AM
sorry holz, though lahug's link was your answer to my question :) going crosseyed trrying to sort this mess out. deleted my post so as not to hijack the thread,

LaHug, Holz, looks the same after 5 hours quinting at the screen trying to make 7 donuts flower off :)

7 donuts is alright there are people struggling alot more than you.

elephants

Have 7 donuts and will be using 5 trades. Team will be completed by then so I'll be happy 8)

Holz

Quote from: elephants on June 08, 2012, 01:59:04 AM
Have 7 donuts and will he using 5 trades. Team will be completed by then so I'll be happy (8

nothing wrong with that than should be slightly better than average I would say