the single trade? or the double trade?

[Bill Manspeaker]

Deledio, Goddard, Shaw, Birchall, Hargrave, Morris, Mohr   (Spurr, Ellis)

Ablett, Pendlebury, S.Thompson, Selwood, Horsley, McDonald   (Zorko, Magner)

Sandilands, Giles   (Redden, Stephenson)

Franklin, Sidebottom, Beams, Martin, B.Harvey, D.Smith, Treloar   (Cameron, Couch)


15 trades and $252,600 remaining



okay so during the week i've read a heap of posts about Darley and i was sort of leaning towards getting him in until i realised i could do a straight swap

Morris -> Scotland/Waters

now the question is, would it be better for my team in the long term to get Darley now? if so, i could go Morris -> Darley, Mohr -> Scotland/Waters. the small problem with that is i will be forced to play Ellis/Darley/Spurr for however long it takes for me to fill my backline.

if i bring in Waters, i will be copping a donut in round 11.
if i bring in Scotland, i will be copping ANOTHER donut in round 13

i say ANOTHER because obviously i already have Goddard, Deledio and Birchall so that could be a problem


so should i go ahead with just Morris -> Scotland/Waters,, or do the double trade and get in a cash cow + a premo


IMO it's probably better to get in Darley in now, but i'm not really that sure so i would really love to hear some of your thoughts!

any help is always appreciated :)

cheers

[jfitty]

I think I would do the straight swap of Morris > Waters.

I don't think Darley is absolutely necessary for you since you have good coverage on your bench with Ellis & Spurr. Mohr will hold his own as your last defender until you can upgrade him as well. Only problem is that Darley may be the last decent downgrade in the backline for a while, but if I were you I would try and keep Ellis and Spurr on the bench for the rest of the season and upgrade Mohr with cash from a downgrade elsewhere.

[The Bomber]

At this point in the season I can't see that many rookies that are going to break in to their respective sides. That is the main reason I would say get Darley in this week.
I also don't see your problem if you do an upgrade and a downgrade. If you do the straight swap only, you still will have to play Ellis/Darley/Mohr on the field. So if you go Mohr-->Darley and Morris-->Waters, you will be playing Darley on the field ahead of Mohr, which isn't a big deal IMO.
Unless you planned for the byes from rd1, everyone is going to struggle with the byes. It will help if you have cash on hand to upgrade during the byes to avoid some donuts. (EG: Magner--Priddis rd12 to avoid a rd 12 midfield donut)...

[Swallow12]

Mohr to Darley and then morris to Waters RD12?

[Torress]

i'm presuming you don't care about your overall rank as you haven't mentioned it? but you appear to be fairly well structured for byes so not sure.

if its for league you want then if mohr is ripe drop him for darley? mate i don't think darley is must have, but there literally aint much else left on the horizon. i actually don't think there is a distinct wrong or right choice here.. darley could well only play say 5 games? we just don't really know, but he does look like a type who will at least endeavour to get his hands on it.

imo i think its imperative this year with lack of downgrades to be real smart with your money. i've had a 100k kitty all the way, its handy for options.
mate scotland is way better than waters, fullstop for fantasy.

look i don't think brining in scotland will affect you much over byes, a common strategy is to accept you will cop at minimum 2 donuts over these 3 weeks. ppl are literally having 3 round 13 defenders, or 3 round 12 mids (whatever) and kinda dictating when these donuts will occur. look up a bloke who blogs called Ringo for the posts he has made on planning for bye period and taking ''compulsary'' donuts. in a very small nutshell - you have 8 spots on your bench without the use of a dpp link within your ruck and forward you can't really avoid 2 donuts, so accept 2 and minimise the rest.

mind you waters doing very well could totally understand it, but scotland with the outs at carlton is a good pick.

[Ringo]

Is it worth considering Magner to Scotland and playing him in mids and trading back to defence when rookies in defence right to upgrade.

[Bill Manspeaker]

thanks heaps for the help fellas

@Torress nah i'm not worried about overall.. just after the cash for a league win :D just a pure coincidence about the structure

Only problem is that Darley may be the last decent downgrade in the backline for a while

that's my main concern. i figure Docherty will be a great option in the future but i think i've read on this forum that he's having some trouble and they're not too sure how long it will be for him. something in my gut is telling me to jump on Darley for now.

Is it worth considering Magner to Scotland and playing him in mids and trading back to defence when rookies in defence right to upgrade.

i hadn't considered that but i just done that trade then to see how it would look. after some thought though i don't like the look of playing 2 rook defenders + Hargrave for however long it would take to get Scotland into the backline. i'd rather play 2 rook midfielders in Horsley and OldMac.

i also just had a look at my round 13 opponent and he's missing a fair chunk of his side that round in Deledio, Goddard, Birchall, J.Trengove, Ablett, Gibbs, Franklin, Lewis, Riewoldt, Martin and Ellis

so after looking at that i've come to the conclusion that i'm just gonna roll the dice and get Scotland!

Morris -> Darley
Mohr/Ellis -> Scotland

that's right ladies and gentlemen i've got a new question for ya's lol ;)

if i trade Ellis i pocket $111,600
if i trade Mohr i pocket $216,100

so once again i'm asking for some guidance and some thoughts on my new issue!

again any help is always appreciated

and again thanks for the help already provided :) cheers

[tor01doc]

Mohr to Darley and Magner out leaving you $760200 to spend.

Who do you want? Spoilt for choice.

Get Dal Santo and have a fair bit of cash left and he suits your bye structure.

[Bill Manspeaker]

Mohr to Darley and Magner out leaving you $760200 to spend.

Who do you want? Spoilt for choice.

Get Dal Santo and have a fair bit of cash left and he suits your bye structure.

if i do that though i'll have to field 2 of Ellis/Morris/Darley/Spurr + Hargrave every week until a premo is there for the taking

it doesn't seem right to me when i could be fielding Horsley and JMac every week instead (missing out on the premo mid i know, but mid rooks score better than def rooks)

am i missing something?

[tor01doc]

I can't see a huge difference in scoring between Mohr and Darley - but count the cash!

Aim to get Waters in after round 11 which leaves you fielding the guys quoted above for only 2 weeks.

During these 2 weeks you'll get the extra points of a mid premium vs those of Magner.

[Bill Manspeaker]

that's true i guess, i'll jump on Waters say after round 11, then not long after try to get in Scotland and that will just about be it for my backs (if i keep Hargrave)

all the time having an extra premo mid

now i'm asking myself if Dal Santo is worth it? i know he had an incredible finish to last year, and the dude is a dead set freak, but i could be getting in someone like Boyd instead? will Dal outscore Boyd for the rest of the year in your opinion? (i'm a Saints supporter, so i support Dal all the way but i'm not sure if he can finish this year as he did last year)

[Bill Manspeaker]

i just done Mags -> Dal but then realised i'll have to field an extra back aswell with the out of Shaw (maybe for 2 weeks)

should that change my mind?

[tor01doc]

If you like NDS then jump on.

Magner's BE is high / Dal's is low - win / win.

Backs have been so inconsistent this year that a couple of weeks with a rookie is not of concern to me.

I'll get Waters after R11 - assuming no more stupid injuries.

[Bill Manspeaker]

thanks heaps for your help mate, i just gotta show ya what i'm looking at though. it just doesn't look right to me

OPTION 1:

Ellis -> Darley
Morris -> Scotland

$111,600 remaining


Deledio, Goddard, Birchall, Scotland, Hargrave, Mohr, Darley   (Shaw, Spurr)

Pendlebury, Thompson, Selwood, Ablett, Horsley, McDonald   (Magner, Couch)

Sandilands, Giles   (Stephenson, Redden)

Sidebottom, Franklin, Beams, Martin, Harvey, D.Smith, Treloar   (Cameron, Zorko)

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OPTION 2:

Mohr -> Darley
Magner -> Dal Santo

$258,900 remaining


Deledio, Goddard, Birchall, Hargrave, Morris, Ellis, Darley   (Shaw, Spurr)

Pendlebury, Thompson, Selwood, Ablett, Dal Santo, Horsley   (McDonald, Couch)

Sandilands, Giles   (Stephenson, Redden)

Sidebottom, Franklin, Beams, Martin, Harvey, D.Smith, Treloar   (Cameron, Zorko)
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now i know the mids look awesome adding the extra premo, but having to field 3 rookies might kill me? (down to fielding 2 rooks with Shaw back though)

Magner and Morris/Mohr have similar BE's, but Magner has the ability to score more than the backs, therefore will not lose as much cash?

to me, my team is much more balanced in option 1.. but again i'm not really the brightest lad so i dunno if i'm missing something?

thanks your help is really appreciated mate :)

[Bill Manspeaker]

actually flower it i'm gonna take your advice!

gonna go with option 2, and look to bring in Waters after round 11, leaving me only having to field 1 rook (with Shaw back) and i get the extra premo. plus cash!

i get it now! +5 cheers for you (after some time ;))
thanks mate