Jelwood cleared

Started by chaosAD, April 30, 2012, 05:56:59 PM

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Lucastorm

Just revenging on Raines because he fkd up GAJ's knee

unceramonius

Nah the mrp is just a farce, with agendas and motives.

Karmichael should be suspended this week for his head high hit on swallow over the ball...but it wont happen.  2 weeks from now, someone else will do it and they will get done.

It should be the same sentence REGARDLESS who you are.

TheMailman

Still haven't replied to the PM unceramonius?

A bit of Catagelophobia going on there :)

I'm just happy that Selwood is off

unceramonius

mailman are you obsessed with me?  i didnt know i had a pm...i dont check.  but i did read it and replied the first time you mentioned it....then the topic got deleted.

as if im going to search for videos etc.  the afl is bogus in its ways.  it is the stats that matter and the stats dont lie.  Every bogus free eagles get, you will do a geish and say ooooh gee in the letter of the law thats a free kick.  What you fail to relise, and the geish patronisingly does too......is why dont you also call it that way DOWN THE OTHER END.

eagles have the most frees for.....but even more staggeringly have the least against them.  If glass can hold walker like he did in last years final in the dying seconds and get away with it.....but the whole eagles team can duck their heads for soft frees.....then we have a very big problem.   

thats your pm sorted....now stop obsessing over me please

Ricochet

Just for anyones interest this is what they had to say about it

"Andrew Raines, Brisbane Lions, has been charged with a Level Four striking offence against Joel Selwood, Geelong Cats, during the fourth quarter of the Round Five match between the Brisbane Lions and the Geelong Cats, played at the Gabba on Saturday April 28, 2012.

In summary, due to his previous good record, his three-match sanction can be reduced to one match with an early plea.

Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Geelong Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of seven activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Four offence, drawing 325 demerit points and three-match sanction. He has an existing good record, reducing the penalty by 25 per cent to 243.75 points and a two-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 182.81 points and a one-match sanction."

"Contact between the Geelong Cats' Joel Selwood and the Brisbane Lions' Andrew Raines from the fourth quarter of Saturday's match was assessed. The two players are ahead of the ball and running upfield. Selwood makes high contact to Raines with his left hand. After receiving a medical report from the Brisbane Lions Football Club, it was the view of the panel the force used was below that required to constitute a report. No further action was taken."

TheHanger

Quote from: Ricochet on May 01, 2012, 12:14:33 AM
Just for anyones interest this is what they had to say about it

"Andrew Raines, Brisbane Lions, has been charged with a Level Four striking offence against Joel Selwood, Geelong Cats, during the fourth quarter of the Round Five match between the Brisbane Lions and the Geelong Cats, played at the Gabba on Saturday April 28, 2012.

In summary, due to his previous good record, his three-match sanction can be reduced to one match with an early plea.

Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Geelong Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of seven activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Four offence, drawing 325 demerit points and three-match sanction. He has an existing good record, reducing the penalty by 25 per cent to 243.75 points and a two-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 182.81 points and a one-match sanction."

"Contact between the Geelong Cats' Joel Selwood and the Brisbane Lions' Andrew Raines from the fourth quarter of Saturday's match was assessed. The two players are ahead of the ball and running upfield. Selwood makes high contact to Raines with his left hand. After receiving a medical report from the Brisbane Lions Football Club, it was the view of the panel the force used was below that required to constitute a report. No further action was taken."

so geelong give a medical assessment damning raines
brisbane give a medical assessment letting selwood off the hook

ridiculous decision, makes no sense when it is clear that the hits were identical

Slashers

#51
Quote from: mpollock on April 30, 2012, 09:06:24 PM
@unceramonius - just want to check ... are you seriously implying that Selwood should have gotten off?
Leaving consistency (or lack of) by the MRP and other similar incidents aside for a minute ...

Selwood puched/hit/slapped (regardless made deliberate contact) a guy in the face ... this is a fact ... this should get weeks.  Full stop.
I am.
Selwood was HASTLED all game and probably not entirely within the rules either.
I called it last night. What Selwood did was merely a gesture. Raines had already tried to hastle him almost out of play twice in that run down the boundary. Raines put his left arm out to retard Joel again, he reacted with a soft swipe across Raines which may have made soft slight impact with part of his chin. To me it looked like Joel was only trying to get a jump on him no more unlawfully than Raines had probably done to him dozens of times that game.
Contact to Raines with his left hand (as the MRP put it) is all it was. That should have been the end of it.
But no, Raines (with a handful of Selwood jumper) drops him? WTF?
Raines is and always was the wrongdoer.

Quote from: TheHanger on May 01, 2012, 12:19:06 AM
ridiculous decision, makes no sense when it is clear that the hits were identical
C'mon, it was more clear those hits weren't identical.

Ziplock

Quote from: Slashers on May 01, 2012, 12:38:48 AM
Quote from: mpollock on April 30, 2012, 09:06:24 PM
@unceramonius - just want to check ... are you seriously implying that Selwood should have gotten off?
Leaving consistency (or lack of) by the MRP and other similar incidents aside for a minute ...

Selwood puched/hit/slapped (regardless made deliberate contact) a guy in the face ... this is a fact ... this should get weeks.  Full stop.
I am.
Selwood was HASTLED all game and probably not entirely within the rules either.
I called it last night. What Selwood did was merely a gesture. Raines had already tried to hastle him almost out of play twice in that run down the boundary. Raines put his left arm out to retard Joel again, he reacted with a soft swipe across Raines which may have made soft slight impact with part of his chin. To me it looked like Joel was only trying to get a jump on him no more unlawfully than Raines had probably done to him dozens of times that game.
Contact to Raines with his left hand (as the MRP put it) is all it was. That should have been the end of it.
But no, Raines (with a handful of Selwood jumper) drops him? WTF?
Raines is and always was the wrongdoer.

yeah, it's a bit harsh to do something that already happened to him at birth.

sorry mate, striking someone behind play in the head is an offence that deserves weeks. Even 'low impact' like selwoods deserves at least one. It sets a bad example for something that shouldn't be part of the game.

as well as that, it was a dog slap that makes afl'ers look like women.

selwood was hastled, within the rules, as taggers do. He should harden the flower up. I can see letting him off if this was the first time he did this, but last year he busted guerras ear drum in a similar incident. Honestly, should have gotten weeks.

Raines' punch didn't even look that big, I'm maintaining selwoods just a dog.

mpollock

@Slashers - We must be watching different footage mate  :)

Being "HASTLED" all game is the whole point of being a tagger ... if Selwood (and Scarlett) for that matter can't deal with it without resorting to hitting someone in the head then they need to change their attitude.  The same goes for Raines who was rightfully rubbed out for a stupid act.  :)

Just my opinion ...

Slashers

#54
It amazes me the lack of respect some of you have for a great of the game.
And some of the crap that comes out? What's with the 'retarded since birth' shower?
It wasn't a strike....
Its not about last year....
Do any of you seem to recall the amount of times Selwood has come off second best in his career? He's one tough nut!! How could you use the word 'soft' or 'harden up' and J.Selwood (or any Selwood) in the same sentence. You must be watching a different game.

It's not even in the same stratosphere as the Scarlett incident.

Anyway, the MPR has made the decision and it just so happens to be the same as my opinion.

DT Gun

Taggers stop guns...
Forwards kick goals...
Defenders stop Forwards...
Ruckman win Hitouts...

Anyone who complains about taggers is a moron..

Its AFL! Taggers are a part of the game just as much as Forwards kicking goals and Backmen Stopping them!

How do you think buddy feels every week Gazza, with a big tall athlete nagging him every second it is exactly the same but that is the roles players have in football..

mpollock

+1 on your tagger comments ...  :)

Who is Gazza??  ???

underdog11

Quote from: T Dog on April 30, 2012, 06:13:46 PM
Selwood decision a bit like Judds last year ( I think it was )  :o Brisbane wll be annoyed

Decent comparision, but judds was much more clear! Selwood was a little dog but raines deserved it.

TheMailman

Just because you don't like a player doesn't mean you can hit him.

This is primary school stuff people....

T Dog

Quote from: TheMailman on May 01, 2012, 08:30:06 AM
Just because you don't like a player doesn't mean you can hit him.

This is primary school stuff people....

LOL MM... :o in the shool yard you would actually get whacked  ::)