Just clarifying

Started by aces-high, April 05, 2012, 05:03:24 PM

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aces-high

With the loophole tonight if i put mcdonald captain and rocky vc, rocky gets 120+ i can keep mcdonald skipper and get rocky's double points correct?? Does this mean we get a 0 for mcdonald?? 
All i want to know is if i put shiel emergency and he comes in for mcdonalds 0 do i still get rocky's 120 for captain + shiel's normal score? Or do i get shiel's score as captain for him replacing mcdonald on the ground??

I'll set it out like this it might be easier
-i put mcdonald captain with shiel emergency
-rocky starts as vice gets 120
-i keep mcdonald captain, when shiel plays does his score say 50 become captain???
-does this mean i will either get Say 240 from rocky without an emergency replacing mcdonald or 120 from rocky with shiel coming on for old macs 0 and doubling his score??
If someone can clarify this for me it will be greatly appreciated!! :)

thatguy

if you make mcdonald captain and shiel emg, shiel's score counts in full, without the C. your VC score will stand

Pickle

Rocky will become your captain and your emergency will get standard score...

Rocky will get 240
Shiel will get 50
MacDonald will become bench player

Cheers :)

aces-high


nickyt

This whole loophole thing seems a little risky to me though because it means you are sacrificing your emergency that you would have otherwise had without the loophole in place (i.e. shiel,smith etc.), therefore if someone else pulls out pre-game and gets a zero that will not be covered, so imho, unless your VC gets like 140+ it may not be worth it, given almost everyone has an expected 120 as captain without the loophole being used... sorry if this is confusing...

The F.A.R.K.

id sacrafice an emergenciy that i might only use once or twice a year (why would i need him this round) in order to get a garunteed 250 from your captain. I will take anything over 125 from rocky otherwise selwood will become captain

nickyt

Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on April 05, 2012, 05:20:15 PM
id sacrafice an emergenciy that i might only use once or twice a year (why would i need him this round) in order to get a garunteed 250 from your captain. I will take anything over 125 from rocky otherwise selwood will become captain
Yeh but it's not necessarily guaranteed anyway, what if both rocky & other captain option both score under 100 (unlikely i know, but stranger things have happened), worse still what if rocky gets 110, you move the C off of mcdonald and onto your first 'C' option and he has a stinker!

Okay here is a worst case scenario, what if you take rocky's score of 120 for your VC, only to find swan for example gets a 150 (assuming he would have other wise been your captain) and then someone else on field pulls out with soreness/illness etc. giving you a donut. Not only have you gotten a donut that you otherwise wouldn't have had but you have lost the 30 points you would have gained with swan's captaincy without the loophole in operation...

Now that is an extremely unlikely scenario (not really worst case either because swan owners will love a 150 regardless of whether he is their captain or not), but you can imagine how pissed off you would be if it was the case! Obviously I am all for the loophole if you don't have any emergency mids this week anyways as you won't be able to avoid the 0 if someone pulls out anyway in this case and you get two bites at the captaincy cherry...

2 large cokes

this still confuses the hell outta me! so if we users above system but rocky gets 70 and we wanna put say pendles as captain but have macdonald as captain can we still change it? basically I no what to do if rocky kills it but if he spuds it then I get a little lost..

picker_man

yes you can still change the C to anyone except lions and blues players its just the VC that will be locked onto rocky

Zombie2.5

I dont have any Brissy/Carl players except Golby so i dont have to make this decision about this 'loophole' :D

Quote from: 2 large cokes on April 05, 2012, 06:18:02 PM
this still confuses the hell outta me! so if we users above system but rocky gets 70 and we wanna put say pendles as captain but have macdonald as captain can we still change it? basically I no what to do if rocky kills it but if he spuds it then I get a little lost..
You can only do this as its partial lockout.
so if you pput the VC on rocky, hes locked out with it, then after his score, if you like it leave him VC and put C on mac and you will get emergency's score + rockys double score.

If your not happy then just put the C on your usual choice as only bris/blues players are locked out, not Gazza,swan or whoever your capt choice is.

So just put VC on rocky, and C on old mac, leave it like that, or if rocky doesnt do good enough for your liking, shift the C to your usual choice.
Easy.

Quote from: nickyt on April 05, 2012, 05:10:26 PM
This whole loophole thing seems a little risky to me though because it means you are sacrificing your emergency that you would have otherwise had without the loophole in place (i.e. shiel,smith etc.), therefore if someone else pulls out pre-game and gets a zero that will not be covered, so imho, unless your VC gets like 140+ it may not be worth it, given almost everyone has an expected 120 as captain without the loophole being used... sorry if this is confusing...
It is slightly risky, but if you think about it all that happens is you get double chance of captain.
Late withdrawals dont happen often and definitely not much at start of the season. Even more uncommon is later withrawal of your player.
Anyways gotta risk it to get the biscuit  :P
i think it you have more chance of getting reward then loss or even nothing at all, your team might be the same

nickyt

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Quote from: Zombie2.5 on April 05, 2012, 06:25:15 PM
I dont have any Brissy/Carl players except Golby so i dont have to make this decision about this 'loophole' :D

Quote from: 2 large cokes on April 05, 2012, 06:18:02 PM
this still confuses the hell outta me! so if we users above system but rocky gets 70 and we wanna put say pendles as captain but have macdonald as captain can we still change it? basically I no what to do if rocky kills it but if he spuds it then I get a little lost..
You can only do this as its partial lockout.
so if you pput the VC on rocky, hes locked out with it, then after his score, if you like it leave him VC and put C on mac and you will get emergency's score + rockys double score.

If your not happy then just put the C on your usual choice as only bris/blues players are locked out, not Gazza,swan or whoever your capt choice is.

So just put VC on rocky, and C on old mac, leave it like that, or if rocky doesnt do good enough for your liking, shift the C to your usual choice.
Easy.

Quote from: nickyt on April 05, 2012, 05:10:26 PM
This whole loophole thing seems a little risky to me though because it means you are sacrificing your emergency that you would have otherwise had without the loophole in place (i.e. shiel,smith etc.), therefore if someone else pulls out pre-game and gets a zero that will not be covered, so imho, unless your VC gets like 140+ it may not be worth it, given almost everyone has an expected 120 as captain without the loophole being used... sorry if this is confusing...
It is slightly risky, but if you think about it all that happens is you get double chance of captain.
Late withdrawals dont happen often and definitely not much at start of the season. Even more uncommon is later withrawal of your player.
Anyways gotta risk it to get the biscuit  :P
i think it you have more chance of getting reward then loss or even nothing at all, your team might be the same
I think i would need a pretty solid loophole VC score to accept it and sacrifice a legitimate emergency i.e. probs 135. It would just frustrate me too much if (in the case of my team) shiel sat there and scored a solid 70, but wasn't able to replace someone who has withdrawn, since my loophole VC tonight is scotland it is very unlikely he will kill it anyway so it probably won't matter. I am all for the loophole if you don't have any emergencies on the bench playing because in that case you can't avoid the O of a late withdrawal anyway, the reward could very well be there if you have a murphy/gibbs/rockliff etc.

2 large cokes

thanks fellas. my only option for tonight anyway is Heath Scotland. might give it a go.