Carrazzo or Adcock as VC??

Started by C-Dogg, April 04, 2012, 07:50:37 PM

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essendon2

Cotchin is better than Rockliff..... Martin is better too...

Carrots > Adcock too  - been named on the wing against Adcock!

Ricochet

#16
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 04, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
you cannot even come close to comparing brisbanes midfield to richmonds, maybe melbournes not brisbanes. brisbanes is becoming very elite, the tigers is well a way off yet.

Adcock could be one of the comps highest scoring defenders if he plays melbourne every round  ;D

AVERAGES

RICHMOND                  2010        2011
Disposals                       338.1        350.7
Cont. Disposals                               130
Clearances                     36.3         36.8
i50s                               47.0         50.2

BRISSIE                    2010        2011
Disposals                        361.2       343.5
Cont. Disposals                               123.7
Clearances                     31.8         35.9
i50s                               49.7         46.4

food for thought...

TheMailman

Quote from: Ricochet on April 04, 2012, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 04, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
you cannot even come close to comparing brisbanes midfield to richmonds, maybe melbournes not brisbanes. brisbanes is becoming very elite, the tigers is well a way off yet.

Adcock could be one of the comps highest scoring defenders if he plays melbourne every round  ;D

AVERAGES

RICH                       2010        2011
Disposals                       338.1        350.7
Cont. Disposals                               130
Clearances                     36.3         36.8
i50s                               47.0         50.2

BRISSIE                    2010        2011
Disposals                        361.2       343.5
Cont. Disposals                               123.7
Clearances                     31.8         35.9
i50s                               49.7         46.4

food for thought...

Is it only me who has no idea how to interpret the graph?

Justin Bieber

Quote from: TheMailman on April 04, 2012, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 04, 2012, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 04, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
you cannot even come close to comparing brisbanes midfield to richmonds, maybe melbournes not brisbanes. brisbanes is becoming very elite, the tigers is well a way off yet.

Adcock could be one of the comps highest scoring defenders if he plays melbourne every round  ;D

AVERAGES

RICH                       2010        2011
Disposals                       338.1        350.7
Cont. Disposals                               130
Clearances                     36.3         36.8
i50s                               47.0         50.2

BRISSIE                    2010        2011
Disposals                        361.2       343.5
Cont. Disposals                               123.7
Clearances                     31.8         35.9
i50s                               49.7         46.4

food for thought...

Is it only me who has no idea how to interpret the graph?
I dont get it either ???

Torpedo10

Quote from: Ricochet on April 04, 2012, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 04, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
you cannot even come close to comparing brisbanes midfield to richmonds, maybe melbournes not brisbanes. brisbanes is becoming very elite, the tigers is well a way off yet.

Adcock could be one of the comps highest scoring defenders if he plays melbourne every round  ;D

AVERAGES

RICH                       2010        2011
Disposals                       338.1        350.7
Cont. Disposals                               130
Clearances                     36.3         36.8
i50s                               47.0         50.2

BRISSIE                    2010        2011
Disposals                        361.2       343.5
Cont. Disposals                               123.7
Clearances                     31.8         35.9
i50s                               49.7         46.4

food for thought...
Mate, Change Rich to Richmond. I think some people are getting confused.

Ricochet

Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 04, 2012, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 04, 2012, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 04, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
you cannot even come close to comparing brisbanes midfield to richmonds, maybe melbournes not brisbanes. brisbanes is becoming very elite, the tigers is well a way off yet.

Adcock could be one of the comps highest scoring defenders if he plays melbourne every round  ;D

AVERAGES

RICH                       2010        2011
Disposals                       338.1        350.7
Cont. Disposals                               130
Clearances                     36.3         36.8
i50s                               47.0         50.2

BRISSIE                    2010        2011
Disposals                        361.2       343.5
Cont. Disposals                               123.7
Clearances                     31.8         35.9
i50s                               49.7         46.4

food for thought...
Mate, Change Rich to Richmond. I think some people are getting confused.

Ok edited

TheMailman

#21
ahhhhh its Richmond :P

Even then that doesn't take into account opposition and opposing disposals.

Brisbanes midfield is a lot better than Richmonds atm. Black Redden Rockliff and Rich vs. Martin Tuck Cotchin and Foley stacks much better in Brisbanes favour.

I could of presented you a thousand facts on why St. Kilda would of beaten Port Adelaide but they didn't, intuition is the key here, not statistics

Insider out


fidou

Quote from: pavs nose on April 04, 2012, 10:02:37 PM
If you like carrots, go for carazzo. If you like cock, go for adcock. Personally I prefer carrots
I'm originally a Tasmanian homophobic so I think I'll go Carazzo

Justin Bieber

I thought he meant Daniel rich :S

pavs nose

Oh I I thought he meant Daniel rich compared to brissie. Ate a shower load of food for my thought on that one and still only ended up with a plate of crumbs. Think I get it now tho

Ricochet

Quote from: TheMailman on April 04, 2012, 10:46:52 PM
ahhhhh its Richmond :P

Even then that doesn't take into account opposition and opposing disposals.

Brisbanes midfield is a lot better than Richmonds atm. Black Redden Rockliff and Rich vs. Martin Tuck Cotchin and Foley stacks much better in Richmonds favour.

I could of presented you a thousand facts on why St. Kilda would of beaten Port Adelaide but they didn't, intuition is the key here, not statistics

Yeh i was only trying to show that maybe Brissies midfield isnt as far ahead of Richmond as Colli had suggested, and that if Carrazzo can tonne up against Richmond (while supposedly being carltons number 1 tagger) then why would he/carlton worry about tagging brissie's midifeld

Ajax22

For starters in past games Carrazzo seems to have gone to Rich not Black. But whatever he is still highly likely to be tagging someone this time aswell

Carrazzo's last 3 games against Brisbane have netted him 114, 81, 80 but i think if you go back further he might have had a couple more above 100

Adcocks last 3 games against Carlton have seen him score 50, 39, 63 but in these games I think that he was probably used in defensive roles (he was last year anyway). A move to the midfield now could see him score much more prominently

If you think Carlton are going to run away with the game and score well overall then Carrazzo could follow suit and score well, but still its unlikely he would score enough for a captain.

I feel Adcock has a higher ceiling this game with his move to the midfield and as such I would have a punt on him despite his lower previous scores.

MGK1

Nobody accumulates like Carrazzo when tagging. He has less risk than Adcock who can go fully negative on his defensive jobs and not find the ball.
Don't get sucked into Adcocks good score against the softest side in the comp, and thinking that it will continue in this fashion. I do beleive hes good for a 90-100 average though but Carlton aren't going to roll over and die like the Demons. Adcock will have his work cut out for him and i think he will be used defensively unfortunately :(

The best option for the VC is Rockliff followed by Robinson. In your case I'd pop it on Carrots.

Ajax22

Quote from: MGK1 on April 05, 2012, 04:40:15 AM
Nobody accumulates like Carrazzo when tagging. He has less risk than Adcock who can go fully negative on his defensive jobs and not find the ball.
Don't get sucked into Adcocks good score against the softest side in the comp, and thinking that it will continue in this fashion. I do beleive hes good for a 90-100 average though but Carlton aren't going to roll over and die like the Demons. Adcock will have his work cut out for him and i think he will be used defensively unfortunately :(

The best option for the VC is Rockliff followed by Robinson. In your case I'd pop it on Carrots.

I think that in a straight head to head Carrazzo is much more likely to beat Adcock. Its just that I wonder if Carrazzo can really rack up the 120+ that he would need to be kept as captain whilst tagging. As bad as Adcock will likely do I just can't help but feel that if he gets going he could potentially pull that 120+ score. I'm just really struggling to see Carrazzo doing that at the Gabba.