Ruck and Roll

Started by Capper, April 02, 2012, 06:43:44 PM

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Torpedo10

Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
Guys, Giles and Redden can't give 110+ That Mummy and Cox do most weeks. They can barely give 100+  :P I didn't go with them on ground only on bench if Mummy/Cox get's injured.

True, but by starting Giles over Mumford I only lost 20 points here then I had the cash to turn Lake into Birchall and Howard into Deledio...
Go figure ;)
Mate, That's this week. I can't wait for the week where both Mummy and Cox get 150 and le, you'll be trying desperately to get Mummy or Cox in.  :P What happens with injuries if Giles and Redden fall?

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
Guys, Giles and Redden can't give 110+ That Mummy and Cox do most weeks. They can barely give 100+  :P I didn't go with them on ground only on bench if Mummy/Cox get's injured.

True, but by starting Giles over Mumford I only lost 20 points here then I had the cash to turn Lake into Birchall and Howard into Deledio...
Go figure ;)
Mate, That's this week. I can't wait for the week where both Mummy and Cox get 150 and le, you'll be trying desperately to get Mummy or Cox in.  :P What happens with injuries if Giles and Redden fall?

Exactly the same as if injuries happened to Mummy or Cox :P

elephants

Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
Guys, Giles and Redden can't give 110+ That Mummy and Cox do most weeks. They can barely give 100+  :P I didn't go with them on ground only on bench if Mummy/Cox get's injured.

True, but by starting Giles over Mumford I only lost 20 points here then I had the cash to turn Lake into Birchall and Howard into Deledio...
Go figure ;)
Mate, That's this week. I can't wait for the week where both Mummy and Cox get 150 and le, you'll be trying desperately to get Mummy or Cox in.  :P What happens with injuries if Giles and Redden fall?

What happens if Mummy breaks down in Q1 and Giles rips out 120? All speculation from here. I am simply pointing out facts.

Torpedo10

Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
Guys, Giles and Redden can't give 110+ That Mummy and Cox do most weeks. They can barely give 100+  :P I didn't go with them on ground only on bench if Mummy/Cox get's injured.

True, but by starting Giles over Mumford I only lost 20 points here then I had the cash to turn Lake into Birchall and Howard into Deledio...
Go figure ;)
Mate, That's this week. I can't wait for the week where both Mummy and Cox get 150 and le, you'll be trying desperately to get Mummy or Cox in.  :P What happens with injuries if Giles and Redden fall?

What happens if Mummy breaks down in Q1 and Giles rips out 120? All speculation from here. I am simply pointing out facts.
Simple fact is Mummy and Cox are proven, Giles and Redden are not.

elephants

Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:37:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
Guys, Giles and Redden can't give 110+ That Mummy and Cox do most weeks. They can barely give 100+  :P I didn't go with them on ground only on bench if Mummy/Cox get's injured.

True, but by starting Giles over Mumford I only lost 20 points here then I had the cash to turn Lake into Birchall and Howard into Deledio...
Go figure ;)
Mate, That's this week. I can't wait for the week where both Mummy and Cox get 150 and le, you'll be trying desperately to get Mummy or Cox in.  :P What happens with injuries if Giles and Redden fall?

What happens if Mummy breaks down in Q1 and Giles rips out 120? All speculation from here. I am simply pointing out facts.
Simple fact is Mummy and Cox are proven, Giles and Redden are not.

Simple fact is saving 400k on a ruckmen can gain you more points over the season if you spend your extra money wisely. Spending big on 'safe' options is all well and good but Giles is a number 1 ruck at GWS and Port seem to have the most injury depleted ruck line-up that Redden is in and around it too.
But hey, agree to disagree :)

Ajax22

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on April 03, 2012, 02:32:35 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
Guys, Giles and Redden can't give 110+ That Mummy and Cox do most weeks. They can barely give 100+  :P I didn't go with them on ground only on bench if Mummy/Cox get's injured.

True, but by starting Giles over Mumford I only lost 20 points here then I had the cash to turn Lake into Birchall and Howard into Deledio...
Go figure ;)
Mate, That's this week. I can't wait for the week where both Mummy and Cox get 150 and le, you'll be trying desperately to get Mummy or Cox in.  :P What happens with injuries if Giles and Redden fall?

Exactly the same as if injuries happened to Mummy or Cox :P

Not entirely, if a premo ruck goes down it's an easy sideways trade to another premium. If one of the rooks goes down then there's not really anyone to switch them out for. I mean best bets are probably Rowe and Derickx  :-\

Capper

Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:44:23 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:37:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
Guys, Giles and Redden can't give 110+ That Mummy and Cox do most weeks. They can barely give 100+  :P I didn't go with them on ground only on bench if Mummy/Cox get's injured.

True, but by starting Giles over Mumford I only lost 20 points here then I had the cash to turn Lake into Birchall and Howard into Deledio...
Go figure ;)
Mate, That's this week. I can't wait for the week where both Mummy and Cox get 150 and le, you'll be trying desperately to get Mummy or Cox in.  :P What happens with injuries if Giles and Redden fall?

What happens if Mummy breaks down in Q1 and Giles rips out 120? All speculation from here. I am simply pointing out facts.
Simple fact is Mummy and Cox are proven, Giles and Redden are not.

Simple fact is saving 400k on a ruckmen can gain you more points over the season if you spend your extra money wisely. Spending big on 'safe' options is all well and good but Giles is a number 1 ruck at GWS and Port seem to have the most injury depleted ruck line-up that Redden is in and around it too.
But hey, agree to disagree :)
arent we doing the same in reverse. We are getting another rookie in the mids, fwds or backs and setting 2 premi rucks, whilst you are getting an extra premi fwd, back or mid whilst taking an extra rookie ruck

Ajax22

Quote from: tabs on April 03, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:44:23 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:37:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
Guys, Giles and Redden can't give 110+ That Mummy and Cox do most weeks. They can barely give 100+  :P I didn't go with them on ground only on bench if Mummy/Cox get's injured.

True, but by starting Giles over Mumford I only lost 20 points here then I had the cash to turn Lake into Birchall and Howard into Deledio...
Go figure ;)
Mate, That's this week. I can't wait for the week where both Mummy and Cox get 150 and le, you'll be trying desperately to get Mummy or Cox in.  :P What happens with injuries if Giles and Redden fall?

What happens if Mummy breaks down in Q1 and Giles rips out 120? All speculation from here. I am simply pointing out facts.
Simple fact is Mummy and Cox are proven, Giles and Redden are not.

Simple fact is saving 400k on a ruckmen can gain you more points over the season if you spend your extra money wisely. Spending big on 'safe' options is all well and good but Giles is a number 1 ruck at GWS and Port seem to have the most injury depleted ruck line-up that Redden is in and around it too.
But hey, agree to disagree :)
arent we doing the same in reverse. We are getting another rookie in the mids, fwds or backs and setting 2 premi rucks, whilst you are getting an extra premi fwd, back or mid whilst taking an extra rookie ruck

I think what theyre getting at is that its better to have the scores of either Redden or Giles on field rather than say a Dickson or Ellis. Also Stephenson doesn't seem to be any worse than Morris or even Yagmoor at this stage with similar job security.

The other thing that leaves is the option to pick the best or one of the best performing ruckmen later in the year when for once its much more open than in years past

Macquarie

148 for nicnat and giles, dissapointing as i had ryder in my side but listened to the advice of others here and dropped him

Capper

Quote from: Ajax22 on April 03, 2012, 11:59:45 PM
Quote from: tabs on April 03, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:44:23 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:37:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 03, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
Guys, Giles and Redden can't give 110+ That Mummy and Cox do most weeks. They can barely give 100+  :P I didn't go with them on ground only on bench if Mummy/Cox get's injured.

True, but by starting Giles over Mumford I only lost 20 points here then I had the cash to turn Lake into Birchall and Howard into Deledio...
Go figure ;)
Mate, That's this week. I can't wait for the week where both Mummy and Cox get 150 and le, you'll be trying desperately to get Mummy or Cox in.  :P What happens with injuries if Giles and Redden fall?

What happens if Mummy breaks down in Q1 and Giles rips out 120? All speculation from here. I am simply pointing out facts.
Simple fact is Mummy and Cox are proven, Giles and Redden are not.

Simple fact is saving 400k on a ruckmen can gain you more points over the season if you spend your extra money wisely. Spending big on 'safe' options is all well and good but Giles is a number 1 ruck at GWS and Port seem to have the most injury depleted ruck line-up that Redden is in and around it too.
But hey, agree to disagree :)
arent we doing the same in reverse. We are getting another rookie in the mids, fwds or backs and setting 2 premi rucks, whilst you are getting an extra premi fwd, back or mid whilst taking an extra rookie ruck

I think what theyre getting at is that its better to have the scores of either Redden or Giles on field rather than say a Dickson or Ellis. Also Stephenson doesn't seem to be any worse than Morris or even Yagmoor at this stage with similar job security.

The other thing that leaves is the option to pick the best or one of the best performing ruckmen later in the year when for once its much more open than in years past
yeh ok but the difference i can see between my team and theirs is that they have an extra rookie ruck (in my case i dont have the big O) and an extra premi mid. Whilst i have a rookie mid (magner or JMAC) and a premi ruck. So they cancel each other out. But my rucks dont need to be touched except for byes this year

sledgey7

cox and kruezer.
anyone else beating that yet?

elephants

If anyone had Ryder + Cox then maybe?

Macquarie

Quote from: elephants on April 09, 2012, 04:07:22 PM
If anyone had Ryder + Cox then maybe?

Thats what i initially had before dropping ryder to go a one prem 3 rook approach, then furth downgraded the rucks going cox to nicnat in the hours leading up to r1 lookout.. damn knee jerks

Capper

Mummy being out this weekend would have weakened several ruck combos except mine with Cox + Giles this week.

Wow still cant believe how well Ryder has started, but i still think he will drop in score

Insider out

you would be pretty satisfyed right now if you had a cox ryder duo on the weekend. might have to get me one of them.....