Cost Cutting and other ideas

Started by JimMundy93, March 19, 2012, 01:44:55 PM

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JimMundy93

hey guys
I have been thinking alot about cost cutting and tried it myself with my team
By trading down a premium for a cheaper premuim from the same bye round with only a slight drop in scoring I was able to afford another premium player which would possibly score more in the long run than what you are sacrificing
and save you a trade

So here it is, I had a this team:

Backs: Goddard, Deledio, Shaw, Broughton, Adcock, Ellis, Bugg (Yagmoor, Townsend)
Mids: Pendles, Ablett, Rockliff, Ledger, Clay Smith, Magner (Shiel, Kerridge)
Rucks: Cox, Redden (Giles, Big O)
Forwards: Buddy, Goodes, Fyfe, Martin, Danger, Devon Smith, Smedts (Kennedy, Dickson)
88k left

and I thought to myself, even though Goddard and Deledio would be able to score 110+ this year, deledios tough draw and goddards lack of any form during pre season has made me think they will drop maybe 20-30k in price by round 6-8, this inspired me to downgrade goddard to fisher and deledio to newman which saved me about 85k or so. But this only took down potential scoring by 20 or so per week

So I then downgraded Pendlebury to Selwood.
I think pendles will push 125+ avg this year and selwood might push 118-120
so for a potential scoring difference of 6-7 a week I save nearly 100k giving me about 250k at the moment

so next I went to rucks and downgraded cox who will average 120+ to luenberger who I think will average 110+ this year
110k saving for 10-20 points per week

which left me with 360k and only 50 or so points a week average

then i went to the forward line and downgraded goodes who always starts slow at the start of the year anyway to Nick reiwoldt who i think will average 100+ again this year after a solid pre season

so i saved 478k overall and havent lost any premuims but only 60 or so points a week

im going to make 2 teams and watch both and see how many points a week a really do lose but i think this is a good method
i have now saved 478k and can upgrade to a premium anywhere on ground and i would most likely upgrade to a M4 and have swallow instead of an inconsistent rook


What do you guys think to this idea?

Usman

will be good too see it put in practice by you making two teams. the only thing its hard to relate it to anyone elses team because they will have different players that score differently meaning you cant really get a gauge from it for everyone else. I like the idea though.

colmullet

i think everyone goes through a phase where they cost cut and cost cut until ya end up with a team of mid-pricers.....there has to be a point where a line has to be drawn and you accept that premiums are premiums for a reason, and that if your making 4-5 changes to get another premium in it will most likely be a detriment to your side down the line....i think i had a team at one stage that had 6-7 mid pricers that had come about from cost cutting over n over in order to squeeze a player i thought was a must have in haha

meow meow

Don't get too caught up in last years scores. Things change every year and there will be bargains. JRoo might average 100 this year. NRoo might average 110 this year. Jobe Watson might score more than every player in the league. If you back yourself in to pick players cheaper than what they'll produce this year you can get an extra premium into your team.

BillyBass

So what did you do with the 478k left over? I'd be looking to upgrade either a mid/ruc rookie to a premium. If you hang on to all that cash you haven't achieved anything, youre only compromising your teams scoring potential.

dmac07

I think initially this may prove to be a good idea, scoring will be good at the start of the season, but if you end up later in the season with a line full of premiums, but you are missing the top one or two in that line, you will suffer against people who, may have taken longer to get a team close to being full of premiums, but have the top of the top premiums in each line. Of course you can cost cut in a way, but I think it works best if you cost cut where you think the cheaper player will score as much as the more expensive pick, which is where judgement comes in and people have cheaper 'premiums' such as Dangerfield, Sidebottom, Adcock, J.Riewoldt. May method when it comes to choosing premiums is 'do I think this player can be in top 6 scorers for mids, or 7 for forwards and so on'. Im sure my judgement will be off on some of the picks, but if you pick someone like Adcock as a player to keep, and you don't think he can be in the top 7 scorers come the end of the year, you may find yourself in trouble in the later stages of the season.

tor01doc

What is a premium?

My definition is $500K+.

Would be interested in other definitions.

Dudge

I reckon my feburary team would smash my march team. Reasons being - cost cutting- started looking at byes- and been reading way to much info from different site, and soooooo many different views. So as so many people say, i seriousely think ------ go with ur gut, and hope for a lot of things falling your way, A little prayer won't hurt either

Ziplock

if you can make the right cost cuts, go for it.

although one thing I can say, is don't cost cut rookies. You're much better off shelling out the extra 20k for a playing rookie than for a basement priced one whose js is questionable at best.

SonsOfZeus

Quote from: tor01doc on March 20, 2012, 08:39:18 PM
What is a premium?

My definition is $500K+.

Would be interested in other definitions.

a premium is a player in the top 10 for mid/fwd top 8-9 mids and top 4 rucks

hannebery2rohan

Quote from: Dudge on March 20, 2012, 10:41:31 PM
I reckon my feburary team would smash my march team. Reasons being - cost cutting- started looking at byes- and been reading way to much info from different site, and soooooo many different views. So as so many people say, i seriousely think ------ go with ur gut, and hope for a lot of things falling your way, A little prayer won't hurt either

really is right. haha. i really should jot down my initial team for comparisons sake compared to the team i end up going with. i end up chopping and changing and take risks on mid-priced players to squeeze someone else in. and more than likely, it ends up being detrimental to my overall team.

Ringo

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Quote from: hannebery2rohan on March 23, 2012, 06:14:24 AM
Quote from: Dudge on March 20, 2012, 10:41:31 PM
I reckon my feburary team would smash my march team. Reasons being - cost cutting- started looking at byes- and been reading way to much info from different site, and soooooo many different views. So as so many people say, i seriousely think ------ go with ur gut, and hope for a lot of things falling your way, A little prayer won't hurt either

really is right. haha. i really should jot down my initial team for comparisons sake compared to the team i end up going with. i end up chopping and changing and take risks on mid-priced players to squeeze someone else in. and more than likely, it ends up being detrimental to my overall team.
You probably should take it a little further.  My strategy is list 22/30 Players who you would like to be your team going into finals. (Extra to cover injuries loss of form etc) Select 12/ 13 from the list as keeper prems and then fill the balance of team from rookies and lower priced prems.  Trade to achieve your final team.  Gives you a plan for the season.
Know my team has changed a fair bit as well but the prems remain from my list.  eg I originally had Pendles in my team but by downgrading him to Selwood it allowed me to Bring in Dangerfield who is my list as possible prem.  I hope to have Pendles in my team in due course.

JimMundy93

Quote from: Ringo on March 23, 2012, 07:57:05 AM
Quote from: hannebery2rohan on March 23, 2012, 06:14:24 AM
Quote from: Dudge on March 20, 2012, 10:41:31 PM
I reckon my feburary team would smash my march team. Reasons being - cost cutting- started looking at byes- and been reading way to much info from different site, and soooooo many different views. So as so many people say, i seriousely think ------ go with ur gut, and hope for a lot of things falling your way, A little prayer won't hurt either

really is right. haha. i really should jot down my initial team for comparisons sake compared to the team i end up going with. i end up chopping and changing and take risks on mid-priced players to squeeze someone else in. and more than likely, it ends up being detrimental to my overall team.
You probably should take it a little further.  My strategy is list 22/30 Players who you would like to be your team going into finals. (Extra to cover injuries loss of form etc) Select 12/ 13 from the list as keeper prems and then fill the balance of team from rookies and lower priced prems.  Trade to achieve your final team.  Gives you a plan for the season.
Know my team has changed a fair bit as well but the prems remain from my list.  eg I originally had Pendles in my team but by downgrading him to Selwood it allowed me to Bring in Dangerfield who is my list as possible prem.  I hope to have Pendles in my team in due course.

my strategy is to have a F8 M7 and D8 who would be a cheaper premium who would have the potential to score maybe 90 as a defender or forward and 100 or so as a mid. This would be permanent emergenices in case of last minute withdraws due to general soreness.

so in my defence i took a punt and got malceski and in my forward line i have danger, and im my mids i was thinking cotchin

3 players who will be in my team at the end of the year however wont be in my top 7, but they will allow me to wait for players price to drop and pounce without too much of a loss in scoring potential

I also did pendles to selwood because for 100k saving the extra points arent really worth it yet

gotheroos!

related to this: is goddard really a must have to begin with? or would it be better to get a cheaper player and upgrade later

JimMundy93

Quote from: gotheroos! on March 23, 2012, 07:30:58 PM
related to this: is goddard really a must have to begin with? or would it be better to get a cheaper player and upgrade later

i personally dont think he is a must have
but if he scores like he did in 2010 he will be in my team extremely quickly