Hogan vs. Kavanagh vs. Neale

[Jay]

Hogan- 160k cat. Looked great last week and in the mini matches, although today he didnt impress. He has some psychological problems but hopefully he is over that. His job security will be good but not sure on scoring potential as he is a tagger...

kavanagh- 106k bomber. Hasnt been brilliant in nab but has been ok, probly hasnt lived up to his rep as yet. Im unsure on his job security and his scoring ability. Any bomber fans out there got some insight?

neale- 106k docker. Has good scoring potential as seen in the nab mini matches...im unsure on his job security though. And freo fans got an idea?


summary: hogan is 60k more expensive than the others but will get games. Neale has scoring potential but concisteny and job security is the key. I dont have much info on the kavanagh front


So who should it be?

[Big_Cox14]

Hogan has been used as a tagger in the cats games and could fill the position vacated from Ling's retirement as a tagger. I see upside from him and he's technically not a rookie (just rookie priced).

Neale has been playing pretty well in NAB cup and Lyon has been publicly singing his praises. Strong chance of a rnd 1 debut and cheaper than Hogan.

Kavanagh - Don't know too much about him except that he plays for the bombers.

IMO it would be Neale > Hogan > Kavanagh. Though I have both Hogan & Neale in my current team.

[yangers95]

Only issue with kavanagh is whether he will start round one, he will get games but unsure on round 1.
If he starts r1, chuck him in, he should score fairly well, of not go with Neale.

[Jay]

WENT THROUGH COLLIWOBBLERS THREAD "HIRE A DT DETECTIVE" AND FOUND SOME MORE INFO.

Simon Hogan (GEE) MID $133,600
#34   Geelong Cats
Age: 23yr 5mth    Games: 22     Born: August 16, 1988   
Height: 182cm     Weight: 83kg     Position: Midfield
Last Drafted: Round 4, Pick #57 2006 National Draft
Last Drafted By: Geelong Cats



Discussion:  http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,45383.0.html

Outlook
It was a tough season for the smart on-baller who was given time off in the first half of the year to deal with personal issues. Returned to the VFL line-up and broke through to play one game at AFL level, but was squeezed out as Geelong’s finals preparation stepped up. Has been in the system a few years and will be looking for more opportunities in the midfield.

SEASON BY SEASON HIGHLIGHTS

2011

    Had tough year as he battled depression
    Fought back into team for rd 17 win in Brisbane
    Also played nine VFL games and was named in best five times

2010

    Had a similar season to 2009
    Played 11 games and kicked three goals
    Had 15+ disposals in eight games
    Had career high six tackles in rd 11 win over West Coast

2009

    Broke through to make debut in his 3rd season
    Played 10 AFL games including qualifying final win over Dogs
    Was emergency for grand final win over St Kilda
    Made debut in rd 2 against Richmond
    Had five games of 20+ disposals
    Kicked two goals twice (v Melb rd 16, v Freo rd 22)
    Career best 27 disposals came in rd 22 vs. Freo
    Was outstanding in rd 14 vs StK, with 20 disposals and four tackles
    Also played all NAB Cup games including GF win over Collingwood
    Finished runner up in Cats VFL best & fairest despite playing only seven games

2008

    Was close to senior selection. Named emergency for five AFL games
    Finished 6th in VFL best & fairest voting

2007

    First season at club was spent at VFL level
    Member of VFL premiership team

2006

    Played TAC Cup with Geelong Falcons


Past Dream Team Average Scores
   
Year    Games    Average
2009    9    66.3
2010    11    57.2
2011    1    27.0

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-player-simon-hogan-reveals-suicidal-thoughts/story-e6frf9jf-1226216052253

http://www.geelongcats.com.au/players/playerprofile/simonhogan/tabid/8137/playerid/15608/category/senior/season/2011/selected/bio/default.aspx

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/players/profile.php?firstname=Simon&surname=Hogan

UPDATE: Shone in the first Full NAB CUP game, looks to be on top of everything and playing great footy, consider his JS, then consider him. Not new to footy.

Mid Priced Player Rating: (MID) - 7/10 - may be generous, he will get senior games when he is right and i think this season he will be right. named in cats vfl sides best on ground 5 times last season and is "dealing with" the depression so that should not be an obstacle this season. Just needs the opportunity of getting a senior game and for his ridiculous low price would be a good pick, on the flip side the best rooks out there are probably more attractive hence my hesitant rating for him.

Lachie Neale    
#27   Fremantle Dockers
Age: 18yr 8mth    Games: 0     Born: May 24, 1993   
Height: 177cm     Weight: 77kg     Position: Midfield
Last Drafted: Round 3, Pick #58 2011 National Draft
Last Drafted By: Fremantle Dockers
Supercoach Price: $106,600   
Dreamteam Price: $98,700



South Australian Lachie Neale is the fourth selection for Freo in the Draft.

Pick 58 - Lachie Neale - 18yrs, 177cm - Lachie has had an outstanding season. He dominated U18 footy for Glenelg, played all 5 championship games for South Australia and finished the last 7 games in Glenelgs League side having a real impact. He is an inside midfielder who can play forward and apply terrific pressure. He is tough and wins contested footy. He has an enormous workrate and desire to get the footy. His clean hands and quick handballs are elite. Lachie is an outstanding character. Lachie’s testing at the state combine was impressive across the board. His standing VJ of 73 and RVJ of 95 is elite. His 8.24 agility, 14.2 beep and 3.00 sprint are all very good times as well. Lachie averaged 31.3 disposals, 5.6 marks, 5.1 inside 50s and 6.4 clearances per game at SA U18 level.

Pick 58 Fact - Reigning Brownlow Medallist Dane Swan was selected by Collingwood at pick 58 in the 2003 National Draft.

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y-hHlEntJo

Rookie Player Rating (MID) 6.5/10 - not sure about the mancrush but looked impressive at the intra club hitout, averaged 20 disposals in the sanfl, bog in teh under 18's final. Thinking he would make a good cash cow rook but not sure about opportunities at FREO? One to watch as he does seem to have skills

Elliott Kavanagh    
#0   Essendon Bombers
Age: 18yr 8mth    Games: 0     Born: May 19, 1993   
Height: 185cm     Weight: 75kg     Position: Midfield
Last Drafted: Round 1, Pick #19 2011 National Draft
Last Drafted By: Essendon Bombers
Supercoach Price: $106,600 
Dreamteam Price: $98,700 



DISCUSSION:   http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,44301.0.html

VIDEO:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra2vGqRGxb4  /  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6bExPh_eNQ

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/elliott-kavanagh-could-be-another-surprise-for-essendon/story-fnau1fjg-1226200566836

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/bombers-pretty-sure-draftee-elliot-kavanaghs-hammy-will-hold-up/story-fn4hg9de-1226205883131

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/young-essendon-midfielder-elliott-kavanaghs-hamstring-woes-ease/story-e6frexx0-1226255799080

Rookie Player Rating (MID) 8/10 - only question is his hamstring, and how well the bombers have got him fit and strengthened him up for the main gaw.. On skills and abilities this guy would have gone top 5 in the draft but his injuries let him slide down the pecking order. If fit he will play and if he plays he will be a gun, will he play much early? will re get injured again? will he cop a lot of vests? these are the scary questions nabcup appearances will help with the decision to have him or not but i still rate him an 8 as he is a dead set gun with great JS if fit.

[Jay]

opps accidently locked tho voting...all up and running now :D

[Jay]

NEALE INJURED ANKLE IN TODAYS GAME! ON CRUTCHES :/

and then there were two...

[Jay]

All options have 2 votes haha! But no votes for neale after his game today, obviously due to his anlle injury. Think im leaning to kavanagh, just...also i find it staggering that 190 people have viewed yet only 6 have voted?! Just doesnt make sense

[reesbr]

Clay smith!!

[no eye deer]

Friggen Murphy's law! Neale was a lock after his NAB cup form and guaranteed a start from the coach. I suppose it was too easy, gotta make us work for our rookies! I'm p!ssed off on two levels, being a Dockers boy.  >:(  Didn't really have my eye on Kav though, so that's one positiv.e from this thread  :)

[coolfugitiv0]

All options have 2 votes haha! But no votes for neale after his game today, obviously due to his anlle injury. Think im leaning to kavanagh, just...also i find it staggering that 190 people have viewed yet only 6 have voted?! Just doesnt make sense

Views don't count seperate people - If you click this thread 5 times, it will show 5 views, same with others seeing the updated results of the poll.
But I agree, 190 with 6 votes is a bit ridiculous :P

I went with Kav - I had him in my side since SC opened.
I traded him out for Neale yesterday. Is this a sign?
He's back in for now.

[Jay]

Clay smith!!

nah

Friggen Murphy's law! Neale was a lock after his NAB cup form and guaranteed a start from the coach. I suppose it was too easy, gotta make us work for our rookies! I'm p!ssed off on two levels, being a Dockers boy.  >:(  Didn't really have my eye on Kav though, so that's one positiv.e from this thread  :)

haha :D

All options have 2 votes haha! But no votes for neale after his game today, obviously due to his anlle injury. Think im leaning to kavanagh, just...also i find it staggering that 190 people have viewed yet only 6 have voted?! Just doesnt make sense

Views don't count seperate people - If you click this thread 5 times, it will show 5 views, same with others seeing the updated results of the poll.
But I agree, 190 with 6 votes is a bit ridiculous :P

I went with Kav - I had him in my side since SC opened.
I traded him out for Neale yesterday. Is this a sign?
He's back in for now.

yeah cheers mate. I do like the look of kav! but he has been overtaken in the poll! HOGAN 7 VOTES...others are 2 each :)

[coolfugitiv0]

Not a fan of this lock down talk about Hogan.
Having said that though, to be honest, I'm just going with my gut about Kav.

[no eye deer]

All options have 2 votes haha! But no votes for neale after his game today, obviously due to his anlle injury. Think im leaning to kavanagh, just...also i find it staggering that 190 people have viewed yet only 6 have voted?! Just doesnt make sense

Views don't count seperate people - If you click this thread 5 times, it will show 5 views, same with others seeing the updated results of the poll.
But I agree, 190 with 6 votes is a bit ridiculous :P

I went with Kav - I had him in my side since SC opened.
I traded him out for Neale yesterday. Is this a sign?
He's back in for now.

So it's your fault!  ;D

[Big_Cox14]

Now that Neale's out injured. I'm gonna change my vote to Hulk Hogan.

[oldshepp]

I don't think Neale's ankle is that serious. This week's injury lists may tell us more