Are we getting too technical??

Started by PowerBug, February 29, 2012, 08:00:36 PM

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Windigo

Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 09:45:15 PM
Quote from: Windigo on February 29, 2012, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 08:39:45 PM
Are you also saying about the byes?

And now that two mid pricers (Brown and Grimes) have gone down, we are out options...

Actually, my team is virtually complete. And I must say it looks dominant.  8)

Clifton & Wingard at 5 & 6. Only real worries are Ellis.  :P

Bench.  8)
X. Ellis? That's strong mids. Where's Dylan?

TheMailman

Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 08:00:36 PM
I've been thinking about this for a while now, and decided to make a thread on it. Are we trying to get too much value in our sides, trying to see the upside in absolutely everyone, think that everyone could be a scorer?? Should we just stick to 15 guns and 15 rookies, or is finding mid-pricer or the lower premium worth it?? I personally think it's best to go simple, but i'm not the greatest DT'er in the world (yet)

Thoughts??

Finally!!! This is exactly what I was thinking of making some sort of thread/post on!

I won't pretend like I came up with this myself because I took it from DTtalk at the beginning of 2011. I kept wondering how to get up to their kind of standard (top 1000 etc.) and then I heard them say what really I go on now,

"Don't worry about your team being unique, its the trading that will make your team unique in the end"

I find that to be the perfect quote, no doubt the top 100 teams come round 5 will basically have the exact same layout with 1-2 differences, but how many of those 100 stayed there abouts until round 24? I tried out this theory myself, picked me a fairly generic team and worked hard on figuring out on where my trades would be and the weeks/byes etc. and I finished between 2-4k, much much better than before
People seem to say, "If you started with Shiels at the beginning you'd be laughing"

My question is, "Was ANYBODY even thinking of Shiels?"
No, you were all stuck choosing between Kieren Jack and Patrick Dangerfield, it'll be no different this year. Shiels had played 17 games for an average of 55 over 2 years. There really is basically no way to tell that is/was going to happen. For all I know I should bang a couple on Lewis Jetta.

I just feel people try and focus way too much on finding this one perfect cheap player and basically have a 1/50 stab.

Note although this is worded strongly I'm not having a dig at anybody  :P

Ziplock

unless you cracked a formula for picking midpricers based on a dozen different variables and various weightings ;)

Windigo

Quote from: TheMailman on February 29, 2012, 10:29:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 08:00:36 PM
I've been thinking about this for a while now, and decided to make a thread on it. Are we trying to get too much value in our sides, trying to see the upside in absolutely everyone, think that everyone could be a scorer?? Should we just stick to 15 guns and 15 rookies, or is finding mid-pricer or the lower premium worth it?? I personally think it's best to go simple, but i'm not the greatest DT'er in the world (yet)

Thoughts??

Finally!!! This is exactly what I was thinking of making some sort of thread/post on!

I won't pretend like I came up with this myself because I took it from DTtalk at the beginning of 2011. I kept wondering how to get up to their kind of standard (top 1000 etc.) and then I heard them say what really I go on now,

"Don't worry about your team being unique, its the trading that will make your team unique in the end"

I find that to be the perfect quote, no doubt the top 100 teams come round 5 will basically have the exact same layout with 1-2 differences, but how many of those 100 stayed there abouts until round 24? I tried out this theory myself, picked me a fairly generic team and worked hard on figuring out on where my trades would be and the weeks/byes etc. and I finished between 2-4k, much much better than before
People seem to say, "If you started with Shiels at the beginning you'd be laughing"

My question is, "Was ANYBODY even thinking of Shiels?"
No, you were all stuck choosing between Kieren Jack and Patrick Dangerfield, it'll be no different this year. Shiels had played 17 games for an average of 55 over 2 years. There really is basically no way to tell that is/was going to happen. For all I know I should bang a couple on Lewis Jetta.

I just feel people try and focus way too much on finding this one perfect cheap player and basically have a 1/50 stab.

Note although this is worded strongly I'm not having a dig at anybody  :P

Haha, that's exactly what I said.  :P

I was never keen on Dangerfield though.  8)

I'll say it again. I had Suckling as my ultra smoky two years and ago and he sucked that year. Also had Redden two years ago from the start as well!  ::)
Quote from: Ziplock on February 29, 2012, 10:34:13 PM
unless you cracked a formula for picking midpricers based on a dozen different variables and various weightings ;)

TheMailman

lol I wasn't directly inferring to you there are plenty of other people who use it as their reason to pick midpricers  :P

Yours just stuck in my mind while I was writing it  :P

Windigo

Quote from: TheMailman on February 29, 2012, 10:38:54 PM
lol I wasn't directly inferring to you there are plenty of other people who use it as their reason to pick midpricers  :P

Yours just stuck in my mind while I was writing it  :P

No worries mate.  ;)

But the guy who won it had Fyfe. I'd imagine he would ave been shut down had he suggested it to anyone.

Sometimes you really just go with that you personally think it correct. But at the end of the day it's only a fantasy football game.  :P

TheMailman

Quote from: Windigo on February 29, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
But at the end of the day it's only a fantasy football game.  :P

Too easy to forget  ;D

Chelskiman

Quote from: Windigo on February 29, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
But at the end of the day it's only a fantasy football game.  :P

Understand,
There's a fire that burns brightly inside you,
Call to hunt,
You must stand and face your fate.

The time has arrived to be the best that you can be,
All outs disappear, the spotlight awaits.

It's more than a game.
More than a game.
All the fortune and fame.
It's more than a game.

In your head,
Lightning flash and the roar can astound you,
In your heart,
There's a pounding you can't restrain.

The quest for the prize, It means everything to everyone.
Hero or fool, Glory or shame.

It's more than a game.
More than a game.
All the fortune and fame.
It's more than a game.

All your life you've dreamed, now the time is here.
Roll your hand clear, push aside your fear.
Make the world remember your name.

It's more than a game.
More than a game.
All the fortune and fame.
It's more than a game.

It's more than a game.
More than a game.
Ignoring the pain.
It's more than a game.

It's more than a game.
More than a game.
All the fortune and fame.
It's more than a game.

Capper

Quote from: TheMailman on February 29, 2012, 10:44:31 PM
Quote from: Windigo on February 29, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
But at the end of the day it's only a fantasy football game.  :P

Too easy to forget  ;D

I think sometimes the fantasy life is much better then the real life but most of the time your work harder in the fantasy life ;D ;D

PowerBug

Quote from: Windigo on February 29, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
But at the end of the day it's only a fantasy football game.  :P
Umm, no Windigo, it's a way of life.

Mr.Craig

Quote from: TheMailman on February 29, 2012, 10:29:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 08:00:36 PM
I've been thinking about this for a while now, and decided to make a thread on it. Are we trying to get too much value in our sides, trying to see the upside in absolutely everyone, think that everyone could be a scorer?? Should we just stick to 15 guns and 15 rookies, or is finding mid-pricer or the lower premium worth it?? I personally think it's best to go simple, but i'm not the greatest DT'er in the world (yet)

Thoughts??

Finally!!! This is exactly what I was thinking of making some sort of thread/post on!

I won't pretend like I came up with this myself because I took it from DTtalk at the beginning of 2011. I kept wondering how to get up to their kind of standard (top 1000 etc.) and then I heard them say what really I go on now,

"Don't worry about your team being unique, its the trading that will make your team unique in the end"

I find that to be the perfect quote, no doubt the top 100 teams come round 5 will basically have the exact same layout with 1-2 differences, but how many of those 100 stayed there abouts until round 24? I tried out this theory myself, picked me a fairly generic team and worked hard on figuring out on where my trades would be and the weeks/byes etc. and I finished between 2-4k, much much better than before
People seem to say, "If you started with Shiels at the beginning you'd be laughing"

My question is, "Was ANYBODY even thinking of Shiels?"
No, you were all stuck choosing between Kieren Jack and Patrick Dangerfield, it'll be no different this year. Shiels had played 17 games for an average of 55 over 2 years. There really is basically no way to tell that is/was going to happen. For all I know I should bang a couple on Lewis Jetta.

I just feel people try and focus way too much on finding this one perfect cheap player and basically have a 1/50 stab.

Note although this is worded strongly I'm not having a dig at anybody  :P

Funny you should mention Shiels. There were two teams in my league last year that started with Shiels and Suckling. These weren't DT masterminds, just average players who saw an upside and good value. What drove me crazy was I'm a Hawthorn supporter and I didn't see it coming. Maybe I was too close to the forest...

Considering how many trades I'll burn during the byes and finals I think there is a benefit in having at least one mid pricer on each of my def, mid and fwd lines who can potentially hold down a 6th or 7th spot. It's a gamble for sure but no greater than a rookie.

Justin Bieber

Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 11:18:20 PM
Quote from: Windigo on February 29, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
But at the end of the day it's only a fantasy football game.  :P
Umm, no Windigo, it's a way of life.

Haha yeah. This is my job ATM

mezzoculo

Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 08:33:58 PM
Excatly, why get Lucas with little back-up when Coniglio, Wingard are cheaper with less downside. :)
Yeah, but nah. I'll post a better response tomorrow as to why this is not right.
Too late ATM...

T Dog

As a 2nd year DT 'r the whole guns n rook strategy seems flawed. Dont you need a half decent mid pricer to use the rook cash cow benefit early in the season? The quicker the premium upgrade the better?. Just need the mid pricers to hold their own or increase slightly dont you? If the rooks are like suckling or shiels then they are a keeper if you can hold your nerve of course. Always tempting to take cash instead it seems to me.