Ask Ziplock Pre-season NAB1

Started by Ziplock, February 28, 2012, 11:26:43 PM

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Colliwobblers

Nice thread guys, how have I only just found it ???

And yes PB thats a pretty index :)

I got a question, a short question with a long answer...

Q. If every rook was named to play in round 1 ( impossible buts lets say they were) what would be your top 5 for each position. Based on scoring/cost - basically the best 5 picks in each position - zorko - assume he is fit, magner assume he gets e,evated ect ect.

Jukes

Have 90k for my last midfield spot, should I go Magner, Couch (haven't got a DPP link atm in the mids) or Gibson?

Justin Bieber

Come on PB your not doing your job  :P

Colliwobblers

OK I got a second question surely I can have two.... it's for my SC team but the same ZIP advice would apply in DT.

This is for my #2 and #3 FWD spots, with Franklin , Sidebottom, Christo locked in #1 #4 #5

I have listed my concerns, which shows why I come to ZIP for wisdom.

Q. Premium Forward Picks.  Can you rank these 1-10 and comment please ?

1. Goodes - 3 yrs in a row he scores significantly more in the 2nd half of the season.
2. Fyfe - I hear you say he will cop attention and may get injures - both points make sense.
3. Pav - I hear the coach doing articles on extending his career by managing his game time, further backed up this philosophy in the recent article on managing sandi workload to prevent injurt.
4. Beams - a little of an unknown quantity for the hefty price.
5. Chapman - Getting on, hamstrings will snap i hear whispered.
6. Martin - Horribly tough first half draw.
7. Stevie J - very expensive
8-9-10 - zaka - robbo - lewis = not sure these are worthy of top 3 premium FWD starter spots....

Chelskiman


Justin Bieber

Cw I think your allowed more than 1 question lol. Go to the first page second comment and look at all the questions I asked yesterday...

Anyways this should get bumped in that little spot below cw thread. Just so it stays on the top and will become more popular.

Capper

Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
lol this threads hasn't been very popular... I've done like half the Q's

atleast it helped your quota Whatlez

Hey Zip what do you think about Chappy and Stevie J, currently dont have ether as i have Goodes, Buddy and Pav. Would you select Chappy or Stevie J infront of Goodes, Buddy or Pav

Justin Bieber

Now the questions are building up.

I got a question.

your opinion, top smokie this year

and player to drop most in value

Ziplock

Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 01, 2012, 11:15:38 PM
Nice thread guys, how have I only just found it ???

And yes PB thats a pretty index :)

I got a question, a short question with a long answer...

Q. If every rook was named to play in round 1 ( impossible buts lets say they were) what would be your top 5 for each position. Based on scoring/cost - basically the best 5 picks in each position - zorko - assume he is fit, magner assume he gets e,evated ect ect.
I'm counting rookie priced players in this as well :P
Defence:
Darley, Clarke, Bower, Buntine, Urquhart
Yeah, most of them are pretty pricey, but if they were all guaranteed close to a pull season, those would be my 5- all of them would, imo average over 70, and probably 3 of them pushing 80
Mids:
McDonald, Neale, Shiel, Mitchell, Miles

Neale's shown good NAB cup, McDonald is a proven performer, Mitchell, Shiel and Miles have all proven themselves to be dt sluts as juniors.

Rucks
Giles, Stephesen- obvious
then gets a little more sticky from here.
I'm going with Jenkins, Gorringe and Redden. Jenkins has minimal competition for the ruck and hitouts, Gorringe I can see scoring quite well this season, he's underpriced due to injury and sub last year, and Redden has reasonable scoring potential. Cordy would have been there as well, but his pricing is just a little too high for me.

Forward:
Zorko, Treloar, Weedon, Skinner, Hall
I think most of those are self explanatory

Ziplock

Quote from: Jukes on March 01, 2012, 11:24:04 PM
Have 90k for my last midfield spot, should I go Magner, Couch (haven't got a DPP link atm in the mids) or Gibson?
I'd be going Magner- Dees need mids more than roos, DPP link isn't as necessary with changes to trading rules.

Ziplock

Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 01, 2012, 11:30:09 PM
OK I got a second question surely I can have two.... it's for my SC team but the same ZIP advice would apply in DT.

This is for my #2 and #3 FWD spots, with Franklin , Sidebottom, Christo locked in #1 #4 #5

I have listed my concerns, which shows why I come to ZIP for wisdom.

Q. Premium Forward Picks.  Can you rank these 1-10 and comment please ?

1. Goodes - 3 yrs in a row he scores significantly more in the 2nd half of the season.
2. Fyfe - I hear you say he will cop attention and may get injures - both points make sense.
3. Pav - I hear the coach doing articles on extending his career by managing his game time, further backed up this philosophy in the recent article on managing sandi workload to prevent injurt.
4. Beams - a little of an unknown quantity for the hefty price.
5. Chapman - Getting on, hamstrings will snap i hear whispered.
6. Martin - Horribly tough first half draw.
7. Stevie J - very expensive
8-9-10 - zaka - robbo - lewis = not sure these are worthy of top 3 premium FWD starter spots....
1. Goodes 7, he's always a DT jet, but even given his early draw I can't see him shaking off his pattern. Finish stronger than he starts, upgrade target for me.
2 Fyfe 5, more attention, injury issues, fit midfield mighten't get as much time, forwards don't generally have back to back break outs.
3 Pav 9, he's been touted, and played in NAB cup, in his most DT friendly position. I'm rating him highly
4. Beams 6, too unproven for that price tag in the forward line, unlikely his scoring will increase, while there's a distinct possibility of decreasing
5. Chapman 8, seriously underpriced and injury hampered last year (his 'worst year' and still averaged 100), once geelong fixed his running style hasn't really had hammy problems in two years- age is a concern, but deserves consideration
6. Martin 8- Worst case scenario with his hard start to the year, with him improving I think he'll at worst average a point or two below his current average for the first half of the year. Not really worth making him an upgrade target... and you'll regret not having him come second half.
7. Stevie J 7- I can see him averaging over 100 again this year, but he is over priced, and rollercoasting means his price will drop. His average is severely distorted by a couple of monster scores.
8-9-10. Not a Zaha fan, as you've probably seen, due to injury issues etc. Lewis... honestly would be a great forward pick, but she scores like crapola when he cops tagging jobs. Does it look like hawks have another designated tagger this season? If so could be worth a shot. Robinson is the best of the lot imo- ultra consistent in his second half of the season, all he needs is a couple more possessions and would make a great premium.

Ziplock

Quote from: tabs on March 01, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
lol this threads hasn't been very popular... I've done like half the Q's

atleast it helped your quota Whatlez

Hey Zip what do you think about Chappy and Stevie J, currently dont have ether as i have Goodes, Buddy and Pav. Would you select Chappy or Stevie J infront of Goodes, Buddy or Pav

well I pretty much answered this in my above post to colliwobs, but basically, I think chappy is seriously underpriced and stevie J overpriced. I don't think I would pick SJ over any of those, but would probably pick Chappy over goodes.

Ziplock

Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 11:50:07 PM
Now the questions are building up.

I got a question.

your opinion, top smokie this year

and player to drop most in value

haha. Fishing chronically, but I'll bite to a degree.
smokie- gaff. I've been saying it for a while, lock in the 90 average, chance for 100+. Sub affected, otherwise averaged 84
drop in value- Bartel is on the slide. People talk about him bouncing back, don't listen to them. Could drop as low as 80s average this year.

Mr.Craig

The Hawthorn backs were very lucrative last year, which backline do you think has the most upside in 2012?

n00bsauce

can you list how many upgrades from rookies to seniors each clubs has?